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	<title>Comments on: KZG - The BEST OEM you may have never heard of</title>
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		<title>By: Bob Pegram</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Pegram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 06:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use the precursor irons to the zero offsets. They are identical other than the name stampings. In 1994 Roger Dunn, a big golf retailer in California had them made for his staff. I was fortunate to be able to buy a set a year later. The next year they quit making them and sold the Bullet name which ended up being owned by Northwestern Golf. They were never made again - until KZG started using the head. They are the best irons I have ever hit. I can shape my shots and the comments about the tight shot dispersion are true. All of the Northwestern clubs are beautiful and show great workmanship which explains the results people get with them.

I had heard through the grapevine about Phil Mickelson using their clubs. It doesn't surprise me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use the precursor irons to the zero offsets. They are identical other than the name stampings. In 1994 Roger Dunn, a big golf retailer in California had them made for his staff. I was fortunate to be able to buy a set a year later. The next year they quit making them and sold the Bullet name which ended up being owned by Northwestern Golf. They were never made again - until KZG started using the head. They are the best irons I have ever hit. I can shape my shots and the comments about the tight shot dispersion are true. All of the Northwestern clubs are beautiful and show great workmanship which explains the results people get with them.</p>
<p>I had heard through the grapevine about Phil Mickelson using their clubs. It doesn&#8217;t surprise me.</p>
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		<title>By: greg beaugez</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg beaugez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have played the KZG forged cavity backs for about 3 yrs now.  I was intrtoduced to them by a local club fitter here in Ft Myers. I've have played or at least hit every OEM forging that I can get my hands on attempting to find one of the big boy forgings that compares.  Mizuno is the only thing I have found that is even close.  If you have not tried these irons, then any criticism of the above article is ridiculous.  They are simply as good if not better than anything else out there for less money.  Anyone that evaluates these with an open mind without regard for the name on the bottom of the clubhead will easily draw the same conclusion.  These things are really good!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have played the KZG forged cavity backs for about 3 yrs now.  I was intrtoduced to them by a local club fitter here in Ft Myers. I&#8217;ve have played or at least hit every OEM forging that I can get my hands on attempting to find one of the big boy forgings that compares.  Mizuno is the only thing I have found that is even close.  If you have not tried these irons, then any criticism of the above article is ridiculous.  They are simply as good if not better than anything else out there for less money.  Anyone that evaluates these with an open mind without regard for the name on the bottom of the clubhead will easily draw the same conclusion.  These things are really good!</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am now playing with a gemini driver and 3 and 5 woods along with a 3 and 4 hybred and 5 thru pitching wedge - all from KZG. I play to a 7 handicap and play 3 to 4 times a week.  By far the best clubs i have ever owned.  All fitted by Kirby Bolen in Cincinnatti.  I am now about to buy the RSS wedges.  Cannot tell you how these clubs have changed my game.  I now have so much confidence when i draw the club back that it will go where i want and how i want it to get there.  The irons are incredible.  I recommend them to all my friends and one fellow that just bought a Gemini driver has increased his distance almost 30 yards and his control is so much better now. If you can't play better with these clubs you need to give up golf and take up fishing. 
If you are anywhere close to Cincinnatti call Kirby - you won't be disappointed. To my knowledge he only uses KZG products or at least they are the only clubs he recommends. 
The one thing i would like to know is when you are coming out with putters?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am now playing with a gemini driver and 3 and 5 woods along with a 3 and 4 hybred and 5 thru pitching wedge - all from KZG. I play to a 7 handicap and play 3 to 4 times a week.  By far the best clubs i have ever owned.  All fitted by Kirby Bolen in Cincinnatti.  I am now about to buy the RSS wedges.  Cannot tell you how these clubs have changed my game.  I now have so much confidence when i draw the club back that it will go where i want and how i want it to get there.  The irons are incredible.  I recommend them to all my friends and one fellow that just bought a Gemini driver has increased his distance almost 30 yards and his control is so much better now. If you can&#8217;t play better with these clubs you need to give up golf and take up fishing.<br />
If you are anywhere close to Cincinnatti call Kirby - you won&#8217;t be disappointed. To my knowledge he only uses KZG products or at least they are the only clubs he recommends.<br />
The one thing i would like to know is when you are coming out with putters?</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Gemini 460 I have is the best driver I´ve ever had. I´ve also looked at KZG irons but I´m really hesitating to buy/pay as much for a set with - I must say - such poor looks/finish on the clubface (hitting area). Everything else is up to (or under) par but (I´m sedsish so I don´t know the word for the method used to treat the clubface. However I play Hogan´s now and they look a lot of $ better there.  Hogan, Titleist, TM, Mizuno etc. forgings all have similar finish on the clubface. So, why don´t KZG,  if they want to be as good, better or the best??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Gemini 460 I have is the best driver I´ve ever had. I´ve also looked at KZG irons but I´m really hesitating to buy/pay as much for a set with - I must say - such poor looks/finish on the clubface (hitting area). Everything else is up to (or under) par but (I´m sedsish so I don´t know the word for the method used to treat the clubface. However I play Hogan´s now and they look a lot of $ better there.  Hogan, Titleist, TM, Mizuno etc. forgings all have similar finish on the clubface. So, why don´t KZG,  if they want to be as good, better or the best??</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 20:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Ty C, Moveable weights were not Taylor Made's idea, the R7 came 3 years after. Everyone offers a moveable weight driver. So who stole who's idea...we'll never know for sure

Lets not kid ourselves, Money drives the equipment choice of pros on all the tours. Phil switched to Callaway 'cause of a huge gambling debt that he needed to pay off and they picked up the tab. Big John will play with anybody's clubs if they pay him. Even Tiger switched to Nike over $

Golfsmith used to pay Scott Verplank to play but shortly after he won the Canadian open (with golfsmith forged irons), he wanted too much money, got a better offer, so they dropped him. Bruce Leitzke used Golfsmith products until he too got a better offer.

In an attempt to get customers over the shock of the ugliest club ever to hit the market, The callaway Ft was awarded the "best looking" driver for 2007!!  That square piece of junk looks like the fender off of one of Tiger's Buicks. Someone had to pay off the judge on that decision.

Most amateur golfers are suckers for advertising in the quest for a better game and the OEM's abuse this fact, but if we knew more about the equipment the pros actually use we'd be quite surprised. Sure Tiger hits a Nike SQ, but it's been shafted with a Mitsubishi Diamana Blue shaft and they dont pay him a dime. That's one of a zillion examples. Dont be fooled by the logo on anyone's hat.

Most pro's on all tours will sneak clubs of any brand into their bag and KZG's are in plenty of golf pro bags in one form or another.
At the time of his death, Payne was playing with clubs built for him by Tom Wishon (TWG Golf, former head designer of Golfsmith).

Those of you out there who've never been fitted for clubs don't know what you are missing, and KZG's are the best forgings in the world as awarded by Golf test USA, the ING Indusrty awards, and Rankmark reviews, all independent reviewers. 

I am a professional Class "A" clubmaker and can tell you that some of the worst clubs to come across my bench are bearing the big OEM names. Thousand dollar iron sets that have inconsistant lofts, lies and swingweights are a dime a dozen. 

Good on ya Jennifer, save your money and let the clubs do the work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Ty C, Moveable weights were not Taylor Made&#8217;s idea, the R7 came 3 years after. Everyone offers a moveable weight driver. So who stole who&#8217;s idea&#8230;we&#8217;ll never know for sure</p>
<p>Lets not kid ourselves, Money drives the equipment choice of pros on all the tours. Phil switched to Callaway &#8217;cause of a huge gambling debt that he needed to pay off and they picked up the tab. Big John will play with anybody&#8217;s clubs if they pay him. Even Tiger switched to Nike over $</p>
<p>Golfsmith used to pay Scott Verplank to play but shortly after he won the Canadian open (with golfsmith forged irons), he wanted too much money, got a better offer, so they dropped him. Bruce Leitzke used Golfsmith products until he too got a better offer.</p>
<p>In an attempt to get customers over the shock of the ugliest club ever to hit the market, The callaway Ft was awarded the &#8220;best looking&#8221; driver for 2007!!  That square piece of junk looks like the fender off of one of Tiger&#8217;s Buicks. Someone had to pay off the judge on that decision.</p>
<p>Most amateur golfers are suckers for advertising in the quest for a better game and the OEM&#8217;s abuse this fact, but if we knew more about the equipment the pros actually use we&#8217;d be quite surprised. Sure Tiger hits a Nike SQ, but it&#8217;s been shafted with a Mitsubishi Diamana Blue shaft and they dont pay him a dime. That&#8217;s one of a zillion examples. Dont be fooled by the logo on anyone&#8217;s hat.</p>
<p>Most pro&#8217;s on all tours will sneak clubs of any brand into their bag and KZG&#8217;s are in plenty of golf pro bags in one form or another.<br />
At the time of his death, Payne was playing with clubs built for him by Tom Wishon (TWG Golf, former head designer of Golfsmith).</p>
<p>Those of you out there who&#8217;ve never been fitted for clubs don&#8217;t know what you are missing, and KZG&#8217;s are the best forgings in the world as awarded by Golf test USA, the ING Indusrty awards, and Rankmark reviews, all independent reviewers. </p>
<p>I am a professional Class &#8220;A&#8221; clubmaker and can tell you that some of the worst clubs to come across my bench are bearing the big OEM names. Thousand dollar iron sets that have inconsistant lofts, lies and swingweights are a dime a dozen. </p>
<p>Good on ya Jennifer, save your money and let the clubs do the work!</p>
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		<title>By: Topspin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Topspin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought GolfWrx was strictly OEM. If you are now supporting "component companies" lets hear from some of the other great companies out there - Infiniti, Wishon, Alpha, Bang.....If only ONE of these articles is posted - it does look suspiciously like a phony "blog"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought GolfWrx was strictly OEM. If you are now supporting &#8220;component companies&#8221; lets hear from some of the other great companies out there - Infiniti, Wishon, Alpha, Bang&#8230;..If only ONE of these articles is posted - it does look suspiciously like a phony &#8220;blog&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: M. Page</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Page</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 05:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish this interview would have focused more on the forged irons instead of woods.  If you haven't hit KZG forgings, I put KZG up there with Miura in terms of feel (feel is different than miura, but wouldn't say better or worse), followed closely by Mizuno, and then a big gap to the other forged clubs put out by OEMs.  Can't say anything about their woods, so I can understand some of the criticism of the article, but I do think KZG should be proud of their irons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish this interview would have focused more on the forged irons instead of woods.  If you haven&#8217;t hit KZG forgings, I put KZG up there with Miura in terms of feel (feel is different than miura, but wouldn&#8217;t say better or worse), followed closely by Mizuno, and then a big gap to the other forged clubs put out by OEMs.  Can&#8217;t say anything about their woods, so I can understand some of the criticism of the article, but I do think KZG should be proud of their irons.</p>
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		<title>By: Ty C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ty C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 02:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I like how KZG says that some of these cheap companies steal ideas, but the new KZG Driver has four removable weights...sound like the R7?.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I like how KZG says that some of these cheap companies steal ideas, but the new KZG Driver has four removable weights&#8230;sound like the R7?&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: M.Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>M.Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds Like a KZG has found a place to advertise here!!!!!!  I agree with the marketing $ being a big part of OEM's but if there product was that awesome all the tour players would be on it. After all at the Tour level $ is not everything, winning is more important to most of the players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds Like a KZG has found a place to advertise here!!!!!!  I agree with the marketing $ being a big part of OEM&#8217;s but if there product was that awesome all the tour players would be on it. After all at the Tour level $ is not everything, winning is more important to most of the players.</p>
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		<title>By: P Matle</title>
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		<dc:creator>P Matle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is nothing more than a fluff piece. "We found that our product is the best…and the 2nd best is Titleist." OHHHHHH! PLEEEEEEEASE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is nothing more than a fluff piece. &#8220;We found that our product is the best…and the 2nd best is Titleist.&#8221; OHHHHHH! PLEEEEEEEASE!</p>
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