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TaylorMade P Series irons: Talking tour integration

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Now that the cat has been let out of the bag on the new 2020 TaylorMade P Series irons, I wanted to get some intel on how these new sticks will start to infiltrate the major tours and what that might look like.

TaylorMade’s Adrian Rietveld is one of the individuals that players like Rory, Rahm, and a number of the European staff trust to transition into new product.

I had a chance to chat with him this week on all things P Series, and this is what he had to say.

JW: In a general sense, what is the process for you when integrating a new product on Tour?

AR: I never like to do [more than] one product at a time, unless I’m at the Kingdom or off-site. On tour, it’s essential the focus stays in a bubble and we deal with one thing at a time. We typically will speak before any testing is done and I’ll get a sense from them what is looking to be gained or if there are any glaring issues.

The main place to start is going apples-to-apples spec-wise—old product vs new product. At that point we can see what the new product is offering, i.e. where it’s good and also identify what we need to do to get dialed across the board.

JW: Of the main Tour staff, who is testing now, and who will be testing after the season is over?

AR: Can’t answer exactly who is currently testing because all players test at different times, but I know our U.S. and European core staff players all have sets including non-staff players that also have our equipment in play.

The cool thing is the players who have had the time to test put them in play quickly which is a good sign.

JW: Rory put the P7MB in play quickly. What did he respond to on the P7MB that encouraged the switch?

AR: He did, but by the time, he got them he had been testing with us for a good while. When he got the set he has now, he was already quite familiar with them, so the transition was easy. This iron was designed with a lot of his input (as well as DJ) and both players had very nuanced but similar preferences, so it’s safe to say he was comfortable with them when they came outta the box.

It’s not a huge switch from his 730’s. He liked that he picked up marginal improvements across the board and was particularly pleased of the simplicity of the set—especially in the longer irons with less offset.

JW: What improvements are you seeing so far vs old models?

AR: For MB, using Charley Hull as an example, the 730 for her seemed to turn over a bit and was a bit less forgiving. With the 7MB, she neutralized her ball flight all while keeping her spec identical to her old set.

In the MC the long irons seem to launch a touch higher with a fraction more speed. Every player who has tested has made the switch, and that’s with no pressure to do so. We are patient when players irons hit in regards to player switches. I believe in the next 6-9 months you will see a ton of MC’s in bags, whether its staff or non-staff.

JW: Do you think you will see more combo sets than before?

AR: To be honest most setups these days are combo sets in some way shape or form. What I think we will see are players having the P7MB play further down into the set. For example, the player that was 4, 5, 6 750 and 7-P in 730 will now start to have the MB in the 5 and 6. That little addition of forgiveness will give players enough confidence and performance to make them comfortable.

JW: Using Rahm as an example, what is his process when he is getting into a new product?

AR: He spends a lot of time at The Kingdom and does any major switching there. He’s not a player who tends to tinker at a tournament site. As with most of our staff, his process is about making sure any switch in the bag is a step forward in performance. Since he lives in Arizona, getting to Keith and me in Carlsbad isn’t a long trip and that gives us ample quiet time to focus, test, and experiment.

*according to TaylorMade, eight sets P Series irons have been built for players on the European Tour with seven going into play immediately.

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Johnny Wunder is the Director of Original Content, Instagram Manager and Host of “The Gear Dive” Podcast for GolfWRX.com. He was born in Seattle, Wash., and grew up playing at Rainier G&CC. John is also a partner with The Traveling Picture Show Company having most recently produced JOSIE with Game of Thrones star Sophie Turner. In 1997 Johnny had the rare opportunity of being a clubhouse attendant for the Anaheim Angels. He now resides in Toronto, On with his wife and two sons. @johnny_wunder on IG

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  1. Mick

    Aug 16, 2020 at 10:11 am

    Who forged these for TM?. Was it Endo, or some forging house in China?.

  2. BB&Z

    Aug 14, 2020 at 9:43 pm

    This past week sure has been about Taylormade’s overpriced Chinese chopsticks. Good luck and trust the golfer/consumer is in a deflationary mindset for the next six to eight months!

    • Average consumer

      Aug 15, 2020 at 6:12 pm

      We are very deflationary, keep the Trump checks coming. Long live socialism! Worst case we can purchase new clubs on credit.

    • Kevin S Shiel

      Aug 15, 2020 at 7:57 pm

      I wonder what trump (or maybe you as well) would do once he discovered some chinese DNAs after his genome test.

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GolfWRX Classifieds (09/23/20): PXG fairway, Titleist driver, Miura irons

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At GolfWRX, we love golf equipment plain and simple.

We are a community of like-minded individuals that all experience and express our enjoyment for the game in many ways. It’s that sense of community that drives day-to-day interactions in the forums on topics that range from best driver to what marker you use to mark your ball, it even allows us to share another thing – the equipment itself.

One of the best ways to enjoy equipment is to experiment and whether you are looking to buy-sell-or trade (as the name suggests) you can find almost anything in the GolfWRX BST Forum. From one-off custom Scotty Cameron Circle T putters, to iron sets, wedges, and barely hit drivers, you can find it all in our constantly updated marketplace.

These are some of the latest cool finds from the GolfWRX BST, and if you are curious about the rules to participate in the BST Forum you can check them out here: GolfWRX BST Rules

Member Bgpreg24 – Miura MB-001 irons

Miura irons, especially blades, always demand attention, and this mixed set with MB001 and CB1008 will also demand some exacting ball striking.

To see the full listing and additional pictures check out the link here: Miura Irons

Member Pingman4 – PXG 0341X fairway

As far as underrated fairway woods go, PXG easily makes some of the best-looking, best-performing ones on the market. This is your chance to get one for a great price.

To see the full listing and additional pictures check out the link here: PXG 0341X

Member CaptainBogey – Titleist 913 driver

This listing is very straight forward—which is where you should also be hitting your driver. Great Titleist driver at a great price!

To see the full listing and additional pictures check out the link here: Titleist 913

Remember that you can always browse the GolfWRX Classifieds any time here in our forums: GolfWRX Classifieds

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What GolfWRXers are saying about trying single-length irons after Bryson DeChambeau’s U.S. Open win

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In our forums, our members have been discussing a ‘single length iron re-boot’. WRXer ‘disco111’ asks fellow members if anyone is now going to adopt the single-length iron strategy following Bryson DeChambeau’s incredible recent play, and WRXers have been having their say on the single length approach.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Lobber: “I played one length for a bit and actually did quite well with them. But I think the real key to success is bulking up and adding 40 lbs!”
  • puttingmatt: “I would say try them, to each his own. That said, thinking success in the professional ranks rarely passes down to the everyday amateur, especially in equipment. I would suggest golfers stop comparing themselves to the professional players, and while you may think you can play like the new U.S. Open champion with clubs like these, reality, begs to differ.”
  • sdedalus23: “I set about this summer to make the game easier through club setup. To do so, I was going to either get the cobra forged tec blacks one length or the Ping G410’s. I went with the one lengths (4-G) to give them a try. I haven’t found problems with gapping thus far, but the short irons are a bit of a challenge. I am a high ball hitter, and they hit it incredibly high; so high that I have had a bit of a problem in the wind. I also found that my 54 and 60, which are still variable length, became less consistent with half shots due to the differences in length. Overall, my scores haven’t changed much (still mid to low 70’s) as they are generally predicated on how I am driving the ball because my iron play generally sucks. “
  • scotterhd2: “This thread got me. Have a set of F8 OL irons in the backup bag. Just ordered a JumboMax Ultralite grip. I think I’m going to put it on the PW and give them another test.”

Entire Thread: “Single length re-boot”

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GolfWRX Spotted: PXG Blackjack putter

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Bob Parsons has always done things his own way, and just a little bit earlier today he hit send on an Instagram post that debuted a brand new PXG putter—the Blackjack, a high-MOI “winged” design featuring a wrap-around tungsten weight bar to boost forgiveness.

Since that debut earlier today, the putter and all of the details surrounding it are now live at PXG.com

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Ready to get lucky? Our amazing new Blackjack Putter launches on 10.13 but I'm giving you and a friend the chance to win one before you can buy it! To enter, like this post, then you and a friend both follow me here. Then, include your friend’s Instagram handle (including the @) in the comments section of this post. MAKE SURE YOU And YOUR FRIEND BOTH FOLLOW ME! If both of you don't follow me, it's not an official entry. That's it! You're in! 10 people will win PXG's all new Blackjack putter (5 contestants plus their nominee). 1 of those contestants will *also* win a full bag of custom fit, latest generation #PXG clubs plus $1,000 just for fun! Jackpot baby! Here are the details: Employees and 3rd party contractors of PXG are NOT eligible. Sorry! Winners will be drawn 9.29, 10.2, 10.6, 10.9, 10.13. The winning entry drawn on 10.13 will take home not only Blackjack Putter, a FULL BAG of PXG clubs, and $1,000. Some restrictions do apply. Grand prize goes to both individual posting here and the friend. Click the link in my bio to read the rules and good luck! #PXGTroops #GolfLife. @PXG. Nobody makes golf clubs the way we do. Period!

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If there is one underrated part of PXG’s club lineup, it’s the company’s putters. They pack a lot of technology into both traditional-style putters and more modern designs.

Technology

  • Optimized face pattern – Like with previous PXG putters, the pyramid face pattern optimizes the ball speed across the putter face by reducing speed on center strikes while also retaining speed towards the heel and toe, all providing a soft feel. The face ensures consistency in all parameters that affect roll including; initial ball velocity, launch angle, spin rate, and skid.
  • Tungsten weighting – For maximum stability, the putter has an added tungsten frame along the perimeter to boost MOI and create a deeper center of gravity. The Tungsten works alongside the lightweight aluminum frame to remove mass away from the center while still having ports for weight customization.

Specs, price, and availability

Based on Mr. Parsons’ post, the putter will be available for order starting October 13th, although a retail price has not been set yet. Like other putters in the PXG line, it will come with a number of hosel configurations, and thanks to the adjustable weighting, it can be built exactly to the desired spec.

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