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Today from the Forums: “Ping iBlade vs i210 irons – High spinning player’s club testing”

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Today from the Forums, we take a look at a high spinning player’s club testing involving Ping’s iBlade and i210 irons. WRXer ‘MofoJones’ is a +3.5 handicap player looking for more forgiveness who tested with a 7-iron and ProV1x and had this to say on his club testing:

“I tested using 7 irons, lofts shown on each club. I used ProV1x for the testing and was limited in shaft combinations that were consistent among each product. I used DG 120 X-100 for every head except the Mizuno (DG 130g X-100, I know it’s a very different shaft). 

I started to swing slower after the T100, so ball speeds drops are a little misleading. I had a lot more swings than just the screenshots I have provided; I tried other shafts with each model as well, just kept the #’s with the shaft that I could compare and contrast the easiest with.

The fitter said that he had noticed a good 500rpm increase in spin with the Ping heads in fits, so I tried them. Was shocked to see the numbers back up his findings. I was more amazed that the i210 spun higher than the other heads even with a degree less of loft (33*). Never knew something with such a chunky sole could feel so good off the face and with turf interaction. We should have deleted a couple of bad swings from the data to compare the clubs more equal for std deviations, my first swing after waiting for the clubs to be built with each of the ping heads was slow and not great; hence the bigger outliers for std deviation

Numbers at a glance:

  • Mizuno MP-20 MMC (DG 130g X-100): 33* Loft (Bent up 1)
  • Ballspeed: 130.8 (STD DEV. 1.3) Backspin: 5449 (STD DEV.197)
  • Titleist T100: 34* Loft
  • Ballspeed: 129.6 (STD DEV. 1.0) Backspin: 5500 (STD DEV.191)
  • **Start swinging slower at this stage of testing**
  • Ping iBlade: 34* Loft
  • Ballspeed: 128.5 (STD DEV. 1.0) Backspin: 5933 (STD DEV.422)
  • Ping i210: 33* Loft
  • Ballspeed: 129.6 (STD DEV. 1.7) Backspin: 6344 (STD DEV.410)”

‘MofoJones’ asks WRXers for their opinions on both Ping’s iBlade and i210 irons, and our members have been sharing their thoughts on the clubs in our forum.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire thread and have your say at the link below.

  • HighDrawsLowFades: “I’m a plus handicap and play the i210s. The short irons are actually my favorite part about them. Very consistent yardages and easy to flight etc. I even switched from a specialty wedge to the gap i210 because they’re so consistent. Good luck!”
  • tets: “0 to plus handicap and I have gamed the iBlades … very solid clubs and much more forgiving than I had anticipated! To me, the i210s felt and looked chunky of tight firm fairways.”
  • leftycabe: “I played both the iBlade and i210s and the i210s were superior in my mind. The only thing I did decide to change was I removed the GW and PW and went to the glide 3.0 wedges for them. Full shots were basically the same for both, but I found that around the greens I really preferred the glides because I like to play shots with an open club face and it just works better for me with a thinner sole.”
  • Golf64: “The exact reason I bought 210s was the launch and spin numbers. Being a low launch and spin guy, the 210s were by far the best fit for me! And they are the softest cast club I have ever hit! Nice thing about these, a Pro can use them and a 15 capper!? Probably why Ping hasn’t replaced them yet, hard to beat!?”
  • BoricuaGolf: “I play the iBlade, as you can see in my sig, I play all Ping, I’ve demoed the i200 and i210, in terms of feel, they are almost identical. But my numbers and overall performance is much better with the iBlade, I have a set of Callaway TA Prototypes (which I love), but the iBlades are much more forgiving. I don’t see them going anywhere anytime soon…just try out other clubs and stay with you think looks and performs best. Good luck.”

Entire Thread: “Ping iBlade vs i210 irons – High spinning player’s club testing”

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Cobra introduces new 2021 King Tour irons with MIM technology

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It’s been quite a while (three-plus years) since we have seen any new players irons from Cobra Golf. The Rev33 “Rickie iron” was teased out over the last year, but the focus has mainly stayed on its Forged Tec line, which has done well in the very competitive players distance category.

So why the long wait?

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According to Cobra’s VP of R&D Tom “TO” Olsavsky it was for a very specific reason…

“A long time ago we had actually planned it to launch at the end of 2019 as we usually try to launch players irons in the fall. Between COVID-19 delays and the new breakthrough innovation MIM process, it took us a little longer but it’s been worth the extra time, player feedback has been amazing so we are confident it will succeed.”

Introducing new 2021 Cobra King Tour Irons

Tech Story

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Cobra King Tour MIM 7-iron – cavity view

Cobra King Tour MIM 7-iron – face view

Metal Injection Molding AKA MIM is a term we have heard a few times over the past year. Cobra just recently implemented this process into its MIM wedge line. Essentially, it’s a process that allows OEMs to fine-tune a club heads shape and spec to the nth degree all while dialing in the softest feel possible. Seems awesome for a wedge and even better for an iron. To make it really easy to understand, it’s not cast, it’s not forged, its MIM.

The multi-material 1025 iron head has a tungsten weight inserted into the toe section that dials in the CG directly to the sweet spot. This practice is very popular—and almost essential at this point—Cobra has done this in the past with its previous players irons and it was first introduced as a head weight adjustment for Rickie Fowler years ago.

The final step is a thermoplastic polyurethane (TPU) insert to ensure impact gives off that “Muscle Back” softness at impact, a good way for traditional players to try new tech and not sacrifice the familiar softness of a forged blade.

Who is it for?

According to Olsavsky, “The KING Tour iron is designed for the range of Tour players to single-digit handicaps. It slots in nicely between the pure MB type irons and Players Distance. It’s also a slight merger between Forged Tour and Forged CB shapes, so hoping to cover both players that would have chosen one of these 2 irons.” 

Optics

Cobra King Tour MIM 7-iron - cavity view

Cobra King Tour MIM 7-iron – topline view

Cobra King Tour MIM 7-iron – toe view

The new 2021 Cobra King Tour has a slightly shorter blade from the previous King Forged Tour iron based on comments from staff, the top line has been thinned out (a hair) and offset was increased to satisfy staff feedback.

According to Cobra Director of Tour Operations Ben Schomin

“The initial shape was developed years ago in the AMP Cell Forged iron and then transitioned with a few tweaks into the King Forged Tour. The shape in general was always well liked, but there was a common theme among R&D / marketing employees and players that the long iron blade lengths were a little long from heel to toe. We made some design changes to the MIM Tour iron that addressed blade length along with a few other feel enhancing tweaks. Overall it is a very eye pleasing shape.”

To make it really uncomplicated: the new 2021 Cobra King Tour is a simple, compact player cavity back designed to do its job. Cobra irons have always gone through the turf well, and now has a softer feel thanks to the MIM process. Players will get the MB feel in a CB iron.

Cobra King Tour MIM 4-iron - cavity view

Cobra King Tour MIM 4-iron – cavity view

The Tour

Cobra doesn’t have the biggest Tour presence in the world, but it does have some VERY unique minds to pick from for R&D.

“Like all of our new gear, we love to get input from our staff. In this case, having players like Jason Dufner, Rickie Fowler and others giving specific feedback is always an integral part of the process. For example, Duf is as knowledgeable about what makes a good club as anyone out there. If he responds well to shape or feel we know we are in a good place.”

-Ben Schomin Cobra Director of Tour Operations

And we had to ask about BAD…Is this something Bryson would put in play? 

“At this time there is no plan to make one length out of this head. But who knows, if he gets fired up to play them we will make it happen. He seems to be doing fine with what he has in the bag now, lol.”

-Ben Schomin Cobra Director Tour Operations

Cobra King Tour MIM pitching wedge – cavity view

Overall

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, these days any product that hits the market will be (for the most part) superb. Like its competitors, Cobra is offering a simple yet elegant players CB that will hold water with anything else.

The real question goes back to the players themselves: What are you looking for in your irons? Is it more distance (hopefully not), precision, turf interaction, curb appeal? We all respond to different parts and now more than ever there are options to satisfy your heart and your hands. This new Cobra iron has everything a player would want. So, get fit, and put ’em to the test.

Specs

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Per Cobra

The KING TOUR Irons with MIM Technology are available in a 4-PW set make-up in right hand only.  A 3-iron and Gap Wedge are available via custom order.  Each KING TOUR Iron is equipped with a steel KBS $-Taper 120 shaft in the golfer’s choice of stiff or regular flex.  In addition, each iron comes with a Cobra Lamkin Crossline Connect grip in Black. 

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A wide selection of shaft and grip upgrades are also made available through custom order.  The stock steel set retails for $1,299 and will be available beginning October 30, 2020, on cobragolf.com and through COBRA’s entire network of off-course retailers/custom club fitters.    

 

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GolfWRX Classifieds (10/20/20): Putters! 3D printed NCW, TP Mills, Scotty Cameron circle T

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At GolfWRX, we love golf equipment plain and simple.

We are a community of like-minded individuals that all experience and express our enjoyment for the game in many ways. It’s that sense of community that drives day-to-day interactions in the forums on topics that range from best driver to what marker you use to mark your ball, it even allows us to share another thing – the equipment itself.

One of the best ways to enjoy equipment is to experiment and whether you are looking to buy-sell-or trade (as the name suggests) you can find almost anything in the GolfWRX BST Forum. From one-off custom Scotty Cameron Circle T putters, to iron sets, wedges, and barely hit drivers, you can find it all in our constantly updated marketplace.

These are some of the latest cool finds from the GolfWRX BST, and if you are curious about the rules to participate in the BST Forum you can check them out here: GolfWRX BST Rules

Member croy0021 – Custom TP Mills

Soft lines, milled face, and a true one of a kind, what else could you want in a beautiful TP Mills putter?

To see the full listing and additional pictures check out the link here: TP Mills

Member joshfisher – Scotty Cameron Circle T

FTUO – for tour use only! This Scotty Cameron is straight from the tour and ready for your local country club, muni, or indoor golf league – wherever it is you play.

To see the full listing and additional pictures check out the link here: Circle T putter

Member pschmitt712 – Custom National Custom Works putter

This is truly in the IYKYK (if you know you know) category of golf equipment. A fully 3D printed putter from the same great people that produce some of the greatest custom forged irons on the planet: National Custom Works.

To see the full listing and additional pictures check out the link here: NCW 3D printed putter

Remember that you can always browse the GolfWRX Classifieds any time here in our forums: GolfWRX Classifieds

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What GolfWRXers are saying about upgrading to a ‘blade/cavity back style’ iron

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In our forums, our members have been discussing irons. WRXer ‘Epakela’ is looking to upgrade to a ‘blade/cavity back style club’ and our members have been putting forward their suggestions in our forums.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • waltonsfinest: “Apex Pro from 15-16. Thank me later.”
  • dmbrill719: “2013 Callaway X Forged. It still gets some usage on tour. Awesome blend of feel, looks. and forgiveness.”
  • EDT501: “Mizuno MP 64s still have my vote for the best feel of any modern club I have hit. I also think the turf interaction on them is outstanding. If your miss is low on the face or towards the toe, there is plenty of mass in those areas to help you out. I do wish the 9 iron and PW were a little more compact, but it’s a minor foible in what I otherwise think is one of the best sets Mizuno ever made.”
  • chipa: “Maltby irons at Golfworks would be a good option as well as sub 70 as they have combo MB/CB sets in a traditional looking club with little offset, and the price is a lot less than the big names.”

Entire Thread: “Blade/cavity back style irons”

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