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Ping’s new G25 driver will help golfers do what the pros do to get more distance – launch the ball higher and faster with less spin.

Marty Jertson, senior design engineer for Ping, said that engineers moved the center of gravity (CG) substantially lower and further back than the company’s previous model, the G20.

Moving the CG lower and further back helps a golfer in two ways: it increases perimeter weighting, which adds forgiveness to shots hit off-center, and it works to deliver the club at impact with more dynamic loft, creating a higher launch angle.

As a result, most testers went down in loft and saw a 1-mph increase in ball speed with the new model, Jertson said.

Ping’s decision to move the CG lower and further back on the G25 driver is different than the approach of TaylorMade, which has touted moving CG lower and more forward for faster ball speeds and reduced spin.

“The negative of [moving CG] forward is that now your movement of inertia, which is so important in a driver, starts to go down,” Jertson said. “Any time you can pull CG away from the face you’re getting a lot more perimeter weighting.”


Jertson said that the face of the G25 is 2 percent larger than the G20, and has a 10 percent higher heel-to-toe inertia and a 17 percent higher top-to-bottom inertia than its predecessor, making it more forgiving. The G25 will come stock with Ping’s 45.75-inch TFC 189D shaft, a high-balance point model that has allowed engineers to add 1 gram of weight to the head and still maintain the company’s desired swing weight of D3. Jertson used the example of two car crashes to explain why a driver with more head weight can be a good thing for distance. 

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“If you got hit by a big truck that’s going 60 mph, it’s going to do a lot more damage than a little car going 62 mph,” he said. “It’s basically the same thing with a driver. We’re trying to maximize momentum, even if it means sacrificing a minor amount of speed.”

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Trajectory Tuning allows golfers to add or subtract ½ degree of loft beyond the standard setting

The slightly heavier driver head will be good for golfers who prefer aftermarket shafts as well. Most golfers prefer to have their aftermarket-installed shafts trimmed to a length between 45 and 45.25 inches, which means the increased head weight of the G25 will help them maintain a swing weight closer to D3 with shorter shafts.

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Variable-thickness face design delivers a powerful energy transfer for faster ball speeds and greater distances

The G25 drivers will be available in 8.5, 9.5, 10.5 and 12-degree lofts, and are adjustable by 0.5 degrees up or down through the company’s adjustable hosel, which is the same weight and size as the company’s fixed hosels.

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Above: Comparison photos of the 2013 Ping G25 Driver and the 2011 Ping G20 Driver.

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Above: Comparison photos of the 2013 Ping G25 Driver and the 2011 Ping G20 Driver.

The TFC 189D stock shafts will be offered in Soft R, R, S, Tour Stiff and Tour X-Stiff flexes. The MSRP will be $385. The G25 Driver and the rest of the G25 lineup will hit shelves Feb. 14, with pre-ordering starting today.

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Above: Comparison photos of the 2013 Ping G25 Driver and the 2011 Ping G20 Driver. 

G25 Fairway Woods

For the Ping’s newest fairway wood, the G25, the company wanted to create a club with a higher launch, higher ball speed and more forgiveness than the G20.

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To do this, engineers removed weight from the perimeter of the faces, creating a higher-rebound area that results in faster ball speeds on all hits. The trimmed weight was then moved low and deep in the head, increasing launch angle and providing more forgiveness, especially on shots hit low on the face where most mishits with fairway woods occur.

The new fairway woods will offer a similar amount of spin as the G20 fairway woods, keeping the clubs playable from a variety of surfaces. Jertson said golfers upgrading to the new model should expect to see between 0.5 and 1 mph of increased ball speed.

Comparison photos of the 2013 Ping G25 fw and the 2011 Ping G20 fw

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Comparison photos of the 2013 Ping G25 fw and the 2011 Ping G20 fw

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G25 fairway woods will be available in 3 (15 degrees), 4 (16.5 degrees), 5 (18 degrees) and 7 (21 degrees) with Ping’s TFC 189F stock shaft. Unlike the 189D shaft in the G25 driver, the 189F shaft has a standard balance point. It will come in Soft R, R, S, Tour-Stiff and Tour X-Stiff flexes). The MSRP is $255. Additional specs are available below:

G25 Hybrids


Above: The G25 hybrids have a traditional hybrid look that is much more on trend in the market place than the G20, which looked more like a driving iron. 

Each of the new hybrids, which are available is 17, 20, 23, 27 and 31 degrees, was engineered to have a specific center of gravity that helps to create the ideal ball flight. In the low-lofted hybrids, the CG is positioned low and deep to help golfers launch the ball higher and with more spin than their iron equivalents, resulting in more playability and a greater carry distances.

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But Ping’s higher-lofted hybrids (23 degrees or more) had a tendency to spin too much for most players in the past, leading to shorter carry distances and less control in windy conditions. That’s why the CG of the 23, 27 and 30-degree hybrids creep forward to help golfers reduce spin.

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The G25 hybrids also feature a generous amount of camber and sole relief for playability from different surfaces. They’re available with Ping’s TFC 189H stock shaft in Soft R, R, S, Tour-Stiff and Tour X-Stiff flexes. The MSRP is $220.

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Additional specs are available below:

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  1. Ping Tool

    Sep 23, 2016 at 1:31 am

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  2. gbyrd12

    Jun 17, 2013 at 8:24 pm

    I just recently completed a “driver fitting”. Going in I had no particular brand name as a preference. I tried all of the top brands and even some of the lesser known brands. During the process of elimination I kept coming back to the Ping G25. The G25 felt good, looked great, and performed amazingly! I almost had to try to hit a bad drive. The balance of the driver (stiff shaft option) was just perfect. I could “feel” the head of the club throughout the swing. The lower portion of the shaft and the club head felt like butter going through the ball. I increased my club head speed by 2-5mph because I was able to go at the ball without fear of missing (my normal miss is a hook, which is what brought me to the driver fitting).

    To confirm my choice I asked my fitting instructor to let me borrow the driver for a round of golf I had planned for the next day. I took the driver out on the course and was more impressed. I was hitting the ball straight with a mid trajectory and plenty of carry. I reached one par 5 in two and had a putt for eagle, on a hole that I would previously never hit a driver because it is so narrow. I can’t wait until my driver comes in next week! BTW – I am replacing the Callaway XHOT.

    My last experience with any of the PING products was many years ago when they had the various colored dots on their irons. I couldn’t hit any of the dots and as a result never looked at their products again. I am really glad I tried PING this time.

    Garry…

    • Frank Garrett

      Nov 4, 2013 at 8:43 pm

      Yea playin those front tees really help to reach in two also what helps is when you don’t count the penalty strokes and play don’t count till you like it

  3. metrybill

    Jun 10, 2013 at 6:00 pm

    Hybrids:
    I play and love the earlier model Adams Idea Pro hybrids, Aldila blue ByYou Proto S shafts. Looking to upgrade but not “bound and determined.” Looking at the two new Adams hybrids (9031 and DHY(not sure of the model name)) and the Ping Anser and G25. I like the iron-hybrid, low to none-offset style. Any suggestions or comparisons?
    Thanks, metrybill

  4. karl

    May 15, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    The biggest change that I noticed for ping’s g25 series is a reduction in shaft choices.

    In the g25 the standard shaft is a # 189 in a stiff flex it is 4.8* torque and 58 grams. The only optional “stock” shaft is a #80 for ladies and seniors.

    In the g20 series the stock shaft was a #169 4.9* torque in stiff flex and 52 grams of weight. But, there was also the “stock” no extra cost # 169 tour shaft with only 3.9* of torque in a stiff flex and weight of 63 grams.

    I have been quite happy with a g20 Driver, 4 wood and 7 wood in the 169 tour regular flex shaft. The 4.6* of torque in my regular flex driver is les than the torque of a stiff flex g25.

    • randyeagle

      May 24, 2014 at 9:16 am

      So I purchased the g25 driver, with a stock x-stiff shaft(I have a 112mph C.H. speed on my driver). I have about 10 games played and already broke 2 shafts, I have never broken a shaft before. I am a 4 hdc, and do not take a divot with my driver lol. Has anybody else had this problem. I ordered a Aldila shaft and can’t wait to see If I got a good match. Any suggestions on shaft specs for it?

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    Mar 28, 2013 at 7:19 pm

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  6. rahrah

    Jan 28, 2013 at 11:39 pm

    I’m so tired of all these ” Adjustable lie” Adjustable face angle ” blah blah blah,,,Just practice , practice,practice, get a couple lessons and use a “normal ” driver!!!!! works for me>>>>>

    • Frank Garrett

      Nov 4, 2013 at 8:46 pm

      It’s funny that you’re sick of it but yet you still seek it out by looking at this stuff when YOU should be practicing practicing practicing

      • Larry testa

        Aug 25, 2014 at 12:33 pm

        Frank, why the negativity? You need a hug dude.

  7. GolfDose

    Jan 15, 2013 at 8:25 am

    The G25s are going to be quite something in 2013. I really want to compare the driver to my RBZ Tour.

  8. FCM

    Jan 13, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    It looks sweet! I have the Anser and I can’t wait to compare the two. Good observation on the face angle Joe G. I was wondering the same thing when I saw some online videos and nobody commented on it. I have to assume it will be same as the Anser.

  9. Enno

    Jan 9, 2013 at 8:03 am

    Decreasing loft => opens face and vice versa. See the G25 driver video where that is stated by the presenter.

  10. dj

    Jan 4, 2013 at 11:45 am

    I’ve been a TM guy for 10 years and for the first time, I’m more interested in another OEM driver setup. I buy into the technical explanations by the engineers at PING and can’t wait to have this compete for a spot in my golf bag. And let me add that this driver looks great.

  11. Johnny D

    Jan 3, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    I’m looking forward to seeing and swinging this new G25 line. I liked the G20 but prefered the I20 over the G series. That said there might be enough change between the G20 and the G25 to make a real difference.

  12. Joe Golfer

    Jan 2, 2013 at 11:49 pm

    I like the counterbalanced shaft, as I’ve used a Harmon Tour Design counterbalanced shaft in driver and liked it. Ping’s stock shafts are often better than some of those aftermarket shafts that say “designed exclusively for ‘fill in brandname here'”. Also, making the new hosel about the same weight as standard is a big plus, as earlier adjustable hosels on other brands are much heavier, causing problems.
    The loft adjustability is minimal, as one can change it only 1/2 degree up or down. And no statement as to how this affects the face angle, closed or open when a change is made.
    I’ve seen other photos than these, and the crown seems to slope downwards from front to back much more than the prior model, so I’m guessing you’re likely to get a higher ball flight than you’d expect.

  13. Troy

    Jan 2, 2013 at 10:13 am

    Wow, the woods look awesome! Clean looks, not too deep a face. I wonder how hte ball flight is?

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Callaway launches new Chrome Soft, Chrome Soft X, Superhot balls (2018 PGA Show Demo Day)

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“The ball that changed the ball” is back.

Callaway announced new Chrome Soft and Chrome Soft X balls for 2018, as well as a retooled Superhot, which it is offering in some bold colorways.

Chrome Soft

Callaway promises innovation at every level with the new Chrome Soft. That starts with a new Graphene Dual SoftFast Core. The company touts the new Chrome Soft as a fast, soft, high launch, low spin ball. But let’s dig a little deeper.

According to Dr Alan Hocknell, Senior Vice President of Research and Development at Callaway, Graphene is an “atomic-scale honeycomb lattice made of carbon atoms and was first produced in a laboratory at the University of Manchester in 2004 by Russian-born scientists, Andre Geim and Konstantin Novoselov, who went on to be awarded the 2010 Nobel Prize in Physics for their work.”

The material is stronger than diamond and 200 times stronger than steel, however, it’s also elastic and can be stretched a substantial amount. It sounds like Callaway thought the material was interesting and decided to see how to incorporate it into a golf ball, which is cool.

“We had to assess which part of our golf ball we could mix it with to get a strength advantage and where in the golf ball we would want it…We looked at various parts of the golf ball and the functions of each, and we quickly decided that if we were going to use a material that made any part of our golf ball substantially stronger it would be in the outer core, because its role is partly to allow the inner core to be soft. What we wanted to produce was an outer core that was much stronger, effectively a thinner but stronger ‘crash helmet’ for the inner core and that would allow us to make the inner core bigger.”

“If you think of this inner core as the engine of the golf ball, the inner of the new Chrome Soft is now bigger and softer because it is protected by the stronger outer core, which allows us to pump up the speed, pump up the spin-reducing characteristic of the soft core, and still retain the soft-feel benefits.”

Hocknell says the new Chrome Soft is similarly, well, soft to the original ball. However, feel around the green is crisper and there is a “clickier” sound on those shots. As expected, the new ball features higher ball speeds and lower spin on driver shots relative to the previous incarnation.

Chrome Soft balls are also available in yellow and Callaway’s Truvis pattern. $44.99/dozen.

Chrome Soft X

We’ll let Dr. Hocknell explain the reworking of Callaway’s tour ball for higher swing speeds.

“The X ball has undergone the bigger transformation of the two…In the new 2018 Chrome Soft X we have dramatically reduced its spin profile through the bag so, in many ways, it is similar to the standard Chrome Soft ball of 2017, but what you will find now is a firmer overall feel, while still retaining excellent spin properties around the green.”

“The differences between both golf balls are mostly focused on feel and then if you have a swing speed in the higher ranges – roughly 105mph and above – you might be an ideal candidate for the X, as its increased firmness will convert more driver head speed to ball speed, compared to standard Chrome Soft.”

Superhot

Callaway is also releasing a new version of its three-piece Superhot ball ($29.99/dozen). The new Superhot features improved aerodynamics for low drag and optimal lift, according to the company. Additionally, Callaway is introducing Superhot Bold colors in matte red, yellow, and orange.

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Titleist launches 2018 Scotty Cameron Select putters (2018 PGA Show Demo Day)

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Note: This story will be updated with in-hand photos from Demo Day as soon as possible.

Titleist has launched its new line of 2018 Scotty Cameron Select putters that have new “four-way sole balancing,” along with other refinements compared to its previous Select putters. Also, as we spotted earlier in January, the 2018 line includes a blast-from-the-past Laguna model.

The last full launch of Scotty Cameron Select putters came in 2016, with a line extension of mostly mallets that came in 2017. Now, the new 2018 line features seven new head shapes that include blades and mid-mallets.

Each of the new putters — Laguna, Newport, Newport 2 and Newport 2.5 blades, Fastback and SquareBack mid-mallets, and a heel-shafted, mid-mallet Newport 3 — are made with multi-material constructions. As with the previous line of Select putters, the new putters have either 303 stainless steel face inlays or 6061 aircraft grade aluminum inlays, and stainless steel bodies.

According to Titleist, refinements have been made to sight, sound and feel for the 2018 Select line. Here’s what Titleist has to say about each of those improvement categories:

  • Sight: “Contours and sight cues were refined to enhance alignment opportunities and instill confidence. Scotty focused on thinning topline appearances by giving each a slightly rounder radius. Plumbing neck dimensions, edges and angles have been squared up for a cleaner look from address.”
  • Sound: “Improved sound and feel are the result of up to 30 percent more vibration dampening material connecting face inlays with putter bodies. The connecting screws are slightly larger to account for the increased material and the surface compression necessary to produce the softer sound, while preserving the feedback demanded by the best players in the world to aid in distance control and diagnosing mishits.”
  • Sole: “For the first time ever, Scotty has introduced a four-way balanced sole
    design for a faster setup and easier alignment at address. The balance point of each 2018 Select putter’s sole has been shifted forward to account for the weight of the shaft and grip and their impact related to how the putter sits at address. This results in a putter that sits perfectly square at address to promote easier alignment on virtually any lie.”

Scotty Cameron says that this line of putters, and the refinements that went into them, are a collection of everything he has learned through his years of putter making.

“Everything I’ve learned from refining and redesigning Newport-style putters over the last two decades has gone into this 2018 Select line,” said Master Craftsman Scotty Cameron. “I always strive to raise the bar by incorporating new materials, milling and manufacturing techniques. I’m at the point with the Select line of putters that now I’m hyper-focused on the finest details. Tour players pick up on things most people don’t but those details can make a big difference in how a putter performs.

Scotty Cameron also discusses the four-way sole balancing design, and how it’s made to help golfers find better alignment.

“We’ve reengineered the sole to account for the shaft and grip weight by actually moving metal in minute increments to help the putter align perfectly. I call it four-way sole balancing because we’ve balanced the putter from face to cavity, and from heel to toe.”

The putters, which will sell for $425 starting on March 23, have a raw, stainless finish that is bead-blasted. They come with two, customizable stainless steel heel-toe weights, and Black/Silver Matador mid-size grips.

Below is a more in-depth look at each of the putter models, as described by Titleist. See what GolfWRX members are saying about the putters in our forums.

  • Newport: The iconic “three-step” Newport shape was designed to sit evenly at address and enhanced with four-way balanced precision milling. Updated graphics extend Scotty’s iconic three red dot theme to the face heel and sole.
  • Newport 2 (right- and left-handed): With subtle refinements to topline radius milling, the Newport 2 appears slightly thinner from address for a Tour-preferred setup favored by the world’s top players.
  • Newport 2.5: The Newport 2.5 employs softer milling of the flare neck that provides players with 3?4 shaft offset and higher toe flow, while incorporating the line’s four-way sole balancing setup and improved vibration dampening material connecting the face to the body.
  • Newport 3 (right- and left-handed): The heel-shafted Newport 3 brings together a teardrop shaped design with high toe flow. Flange milling has been smoothed for more sculpted contours with updated four-way sole balancing and improved vibration dampening. A left-handed Newport 3 option joins the 2018 Select line, offering a heel-shafted, higher toe flow small mallet option to the line.
  • Laguna: Scotty’s newest, re-engineered Laguna brings back a popular head shape with 2018 Select line technology, including a mid-milled stainless steel face inlay, four-way balanced sole milling and improved vibration dampening technology.
  • Fastback: The 2018 Select Fastback features a single milled flange line giving it a cleaner, Tour-preferred look at address while allowing for more vibration dampening material to be placed between the sole and the flange of the putter. The 6061 aircraft grade aluminum face-sole inlay has been refined to allow for weight to be distributed to the perimeter of the putter head for enhanced forgiveness.
  • Squareback: Scotty’s 2018 Select Squareback has a milled sightline for a clean look at address. The milled line versus prior pop-through alignment allows for more vibration dampening material to be placed between the sole and the flange of the aircraft grade aluminum face-sole. This design also extends our multi-material methodology with softer contours, subtle shape refinements and a new face-sole configuration.
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Bud Cauley WITB 2018

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Equipment is accurate as of the 2018 CareerBuilder Challenge (1/16/18).

Driver: Titleist 917D2 (8.5 Degrees)
Shaft: UST Mamiya Elements Prototype

3 Wood: Titleist 915F 3+ (13.5 Degrees)
Shaft: Aldila 80 Tour-X

Driving Iron: Titleist 718 AP3 (3 iron)
Shaft: True Temper Dynamic Gold S400 AMT Tour Issue

Irons: Titleist 718 MB (4-9 iron)
Shaft: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue

Wedges: Titlest Vokey Sm7 (46-10F, 52-12F, 56-14F) Titleist Vokey Prototype (60)
Shaft: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue

Putter: Scotty Cameron Circle T SSS-340
Grip: Scotty Cameron Standard Pistol Grip

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