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Forum Thread of the Day: “Medium-long hitters using a 7-wood?”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from MelloYello who has been thinking about swapping his 3-wood for a 7-wood. MelloYello feels his 3-wood is the odd man out in his bag and has asked WRXers for their thoughts on what the addition of a 7-wood could add to his game. Our members have been sharing their opinions and insights on the matter.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Z1ggy16: “Doesn’t Keith Mitchell use a 7w? Dude is one of the longest on tour. I think more than anything it has to do with what flight you want to see, and the purpose of the club how your club delivery. My guess is he never uses it off the tee (or in very limited cases, like ultra-long par 3’s) and it’s purely for par 5’s. Maybe he’s a big de-lofter of that club, so he gets a nice penetrating flight but with enough launch to stop it quickly on greens. Maybe a long iron just wouldn’t spin/launch enough for him. It’s probably one of those things you’ll need to buy used off eBay and try it out for yourself; I’ve never seen 7 woods in store.”
  • bulls9999: “I have a Callaway Heavenwood (7-wood), and it’s as my 5-wood, I think because I can get it up so high it just carries more, but it’s so easy to hit. My 3-wood is getting jealous in the garage closet; I take it out for a spin on the range before play every now and then, but it never makes it onto the course. Last Sunday, my 4 best shots of the day were all with the 3-wood…. 2 par-3’s, a par-4 where I was in parallel fairway and went over a pond and a stand of trees and onto the green, pin high; another was 18th hole, 200 yards to green, downwind, landed on front edge but rolled out to back of the green. I’m hardly ever on that green in 2. I wish I can find a hybrid that I can hit as easy as that 7-wood.”
  • ephmen: “Low ball hitter, love my 7 wood! Ping G25.”
  • dmeeksDC: “Definitely can get you great results, but in my experience the stronger the player, the more you have to find the right shaft to get the flight you want with a 7 wood. A lot of these clubs seem paired with shafts designed for players who need launch help with all clubs. I put a tipped 72 gram stiff Accra RPG Z shaft in a Titleist 917 7 W (21 degrees), and that stopped the moonshots. Don’t need to hit this club hard. Stock swing, and it goes high and long, will stop quickly on a green. I think one key is to swing them smooth like a 7 iron. If I get after it, it just goes higher, not really longer. I like it better than a hybrid or clunky driving iron, and I’d only pull it if I found a hollow-headed iron like the p790, Cobra Forged Tec, Maltby TS1/TS2, Mizuno HMB, etc., that I could consistently hit as far. But I’m all woods and irons, no more hybrid.”
  • uglande: “Just pull the trigger on the 7 wood and then wait to make your next move after putting it through its paces. I love my 917 F2 4-wood and 7-wood. The 7 was my favorite club in the bag the past two seasons. It’s not going anywhere.”

Entire Thread: “Medium-long hitters using a 7-wood?

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  1. Daniel Whitehurst

    Nov 9, 2019 at 4:01 am

    It’s all about your personal trajectory needs. This area of the bag has 4 options. From high to low ball flight you have fairway wood, hybrid, utility iron, long iron. I have a high speed, high high ball flight pattern(118-122 mph driver speed). 5 and 7 woods and most hybrids are to high ball flight to control. It’s like trying to make a free throw by almost hitting the lights. I go with an 18 deg Callaway x forged Utility. Because I hit it 460 after the rollout it’s a great tee club on 410 and under par 4’s where it flys like a driver but a hybrid or 5/7 wood look like 240 yard 9i. Not good for anything but an occasional 2nd shot par 5. My dad hits it low and goes 5-7-9 wd then 6I. Go with what suits the need.

  2. DB

    Nov 8, 2019 at 8:31 am

    I don’t see the stronger players pulling their 3-wood and using 7-wood instead. I see them bagging both the 3-wood and 7-wood. It makes sense because if you need a high-flying soft shot from your fairway wood you may not get what you’re looking for with a modern 17.5 5-wood. The 20.5 7-wood becomes a better fit for that gap.

  3. ChipNRun

    Nov 7, 2019 at 7:51 pm

    As far as “medium-long hitters” using a 7W, tour pros Jason Dufner, Keith Mitchell and Scott Stallings carry one. (By chance all are 21° Titleist models.)

    In a September Golf Digest article, Stallings says the 7W is a lot more versatile than a driving iron or a crossover.

    (Not a long hitter, but I’ve used 4W + 7W for eight seasons.)

  4. Carp

    Nov 7, 2019 at 4:23 pm

    Love my 7 wood.

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Alex Noren WITB 2019

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  • Equipment is accurate as of the 2019 RSM Classic

Driver: Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero (8.5 degrees set at 7.5)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei Orange CK 60TXalex-noren-witb-golfwrx

3-wood: Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 3+ (13.5 degrees set at 12.5)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana White 80X

Hybrid: Callaway Apex (18 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana HY 90X

Irons: Callaway Apex Pro 19 (4- 9-iron)
Shaft: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100

Wedges: Callaway Jaws MD5 (46, 50, 56 degrees)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100

Putter: Odyssey O-Works 1W

Ball: Callaway Chrome Soft X

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet

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GolfWRX Spotted: Mizuno ST200 fairway woods & ST200X hybrid

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Mizuno ST200 Fairway Wood

A couple of weeks ago, we spotted the new Mizuno ST200 drivers on the USGA Conforming List (WRX Spotted: Mizuno ST200 Series Drivers) and now, we have confirmation that there will be matching ST200 and ST200x fairway woods, along with ST200x hybrids.

Although we don’t have any information on a retail release date or the technology that will be incorporated into the new Mizuno ST200 line—based on the pictures that we have so far there will be multiple options like the previous ST190 including an adjustable “tour” style 3 wood, non adjustable models, and the ST200X—which from everything we have heard about the driver, will be targeted towards slower swing speed players.

The known technologies appear to include a new version of the Amplified Wave Sole to condense mass near the front of the head and create greater rebound to increase ball speeds all over the face and shots hit lower on the face, like the previous fairway woods.

We also cannot confirm or deny whether the ST200 woods have a carbon composite crown like the previous ST190s, but if I was to guess, there is probably some kind of light crown technology used to increase discretionary mass—either carbon fiber, or a strong lightweight steel.

Mizuno ST200x Hybrid

Mizuno ST200X Hybrid

Hybrids are always an interesting club in any OEM’s line since they are generally targeted towards one of three golfers

  • The mid-range handicap
  • The better player
  • Super game improvement

The ST000X looks to be aiming towards the mid-range slower speed golfer to fall in line with the speculated demographic of the ST200X series. No visible technology beyond the wave sole, but I bet there is more than meets the eye to this club.

Whatever the case may be for the entire ST200 series from Miznuo, I’m sure we will start to see some of these clubs show up in color pictures soon, and we’ll bring you more info when we have it.

 

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Cobra Golf gets even faster with new 2020 SpeedZone and SpeedZone Xtreme drivers

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Cobra Golf has some serious heat with the new 2020 SpeedZone drivers.

Cobra Golf had a banner year in 2019, and now for 2020, the R&D team is again pushing the boundaries of manufacturing technology to maximize speed and forgiveness with the Cobra King SpeedZone and SpeedZone Xtreme drivers.

It was just over a year ago that Cobra Golf introduced the F9 SpeedBack driver, and it quickly became a contender for Best Driver of 2019—it was twice in the top 5 on the GolfWRX Best drivers of 2019 list. The SpeedBack was a low spin, fast golf club with great acoustics and a sleek profile.

So how did Cobra Golf engineers improve on a driver that had few flaws? In the age of high science golf club manufacturing where the majority of the differences between the OEMs from a performance standpoint has become a granular conversation, Cobra decided to subtly fine-tune what it did in 2019, and in that effort, hopefully, attract the players who weren’t 100 percent sold on F9.

Cobra, like most OEMs, relies on professional tours to help develop new products, and with the help of Rickie, Bryson, Lexi, and now Jason Dufner, Cobra is offering yet again a club that not only pleases the masses but also satisfies those playing at the highest level.

“Tour feedback is very relevant as we use our tour staff to help us design the products. We work w Rick, Bryson and Lexi on multiple occasions during the design and development process to help us create the best product, both for tour players and golfers in the market.” – Tom “T.O” Olsavsky, Head of R&D Cobra Golf

Let’s Get Into The Zones

The hot topic around the F9 SpeedBack was a very low CG, high MOI, and a precision milled face. All three have become the foundation of Cobra metal woods across the board. For 2020, Cobra Golf has done something completely unique to the market with the SpeedZone and Speed Zone Xtreme drivers.

The Zones tackle all the hotbeds of driver performance speed, stability, weight, CG, and overall performance.

1. POWER ZONE: (highlighted by the CNC Infinity Milled Face). Cobra has used CNC milling in its woods for a few years now and with great success. But what’s the step up from that? How do you build more consistency into a face that is already basically flaw proof? Well, you expand the milling even more—95 percent more. With the milling crawling all the way over the topline, the SpeedZone can now offer even more consistency across the face and ensure that each face is exactly the same. Quality control is taken a step further with 100 percent of the heads inspected.

“Infinity face is continuing our leadership in CNC milling by having more control over the structure of the face and the front of the head. So the benefits are more precise control of the face and head geometries.” – Tom “T.O” Olsavsky, Head of R&D Cobra Golf

2. STRENGTH ZONE: The 2020 Cobra Speedzone Drivers are all equipped with a Titanium T-Bar Speed Chassis that allows R&D to remove weight from the crown (25 grams total) and utilize it in the hot spots of the golf club (i.e. the perimeter and discretionary placements). The goal here is an even lower CG and higher MOI. Simple enough.

3. LOW CG ZONE: A really low and dead-center CG is what, in my opinion, made the F9 a winner. In the SpeedZone, Cobra went even further. 69 grams of mass (an increase for 40 grams in F9) have been strategically placed around the head to fine-tune launch conditions for any type of player.

4. AERO ZONE: This is the airflow portion of this machine. In the rear end of the crown, you will find what appears to be an exhaust area. This addition limits air drag, which in turn means increased clubhead speed.

LOOKS

The F9 not only looked fast but from a topline perspective sat as square as any head on the market. The only knock I ever had with it was optically it looked like a club that would be a challenge to turn over, it was almost too square if that’s possible. Although it’s a personal thing, I did hear that critique from better players over the past year. The Speed Zone has addressed that with the incorporation of the Infinity Face.

Having the milling bleed into the topline, it gives the appearance (at least for me) that there is a little curvature in the face which inspires a full release with little doubt that the toe will rollover. The paint schemes are carried over from F9 with a very noticeable black head, yellow detailing, and red racing touches. The SpeedZone is also available in a black/white finish.

It has an overall modern yet classic shape with plenty of bulge and roll in the face and a slightly open appearance at address. Definitely has the look of a “players driver.”

I believe that players who weren’t 100 percent sold off of the buzz of the F9 will find that the SpeedZone will be a hard one to pass over for the 2020 season if looks are what you seek.

FEEL/SOUND

I mentioned this numerous times over the past season: The F9 felt and sounded like a hammer. It had a classic thump in the acoustics and with the weight, placement has that heavy head feel that I love. The 2020 SpeedZone Driver is no different. In my opinion, the drivers are apples to apples in this category. This is always the biggest concern I have when new models are released. Yes, the tech is new, but is the impact experience altered at all? In this case, no. If you liked the F9’s sound and feel at impact, you will get more of the same in the SpeedZone. That’s a big win these days.

SPEEDZONE XTREME

This was perhaps the biggest surprise coming out of this release for CPG. The 2020 Cobra Speed Zone Xtreme is a blast to hit. For players looking for a stable, fast, forgiving and overall good time, this is your stick. Even myself, who always sprints towards the more “player” driven clubhead, I found the Extreme to be hard to pass up. It’s just so much fun.

“The EXTREME is expected to be very successful and will be terrific for many players out there in the market. Golfers are looking for distance and forgiveness/accuracy and want both in their driver. The EXTREME is our most forgiving driver ever and also provides great distance. The benefits of a larger address sized head are that the CG is further back, and this helps many golfers to square the face at impact while creating high launch but low spin trajectories which are benchmarks for distance.” – Tom “T.O” Olsavsky, Head of R&D Cobra Golf

TECH

The 2020 Cobra Speed Zone Xtreme carries with it a slightly larger profile that allows more weight around the perimeter and a 17-gram weight that is placed behind the exhaust in the rear of the clubhead. Additional weighting and in contrast to its sibling, The Xtreme has only one visible weight placed at the back end of the sole creating the highest MOI Cobra has ever had and a high launch/low spin profile for the player.

Keep in mind, the Xtreme will satisfy all level of golfers—don’t be surprised if Bryson and Dufner have this in play in 2020.

LOOKS

Although the Xtreme has a larger playing profile than the SpeedZone, it’s not drastically different. Optically, it’s a bit of a longer profile face-to-back, and the top-to-bottom look is a bit shallower. Other than that, both drivers live in a similar “looks” sandbox and as a testament to all OEMs these days; the “player” drivers and “playable” drivers seem to ask less from players from a sacrifice point of view.

FEEL/SOUND

No surprise here: the 2020 Cobra Speed Zone Xtreme driver feels and sounds amazing. If anything, there is a slightly less heavy head sound/feel, but it’s minuscule and only gear fanatics like myself will even notice.

THE TAKEAWAY

Winner on all fronts, Cobra had a rockstar driver in 2019 and got five percent better in 2020. Five percent better these days is a big deal. Simple as that. If you were on the fence with the F9, the slight tweaks to this year’s offering should kick you off the edge.

SPECS (Provided by Cobra Golf)

Model MyFly8 Loft Settings
10.5o Driver 9.0, 9.5, 9.5 Draw, 10.5, 10.5 Draw, 11.5, 11.5 Draw, 12.0
9o Driver 7.5, 8.0, 8.0 Draw, 9.0, 9.0 Draw, 10, 10.0 Draw, 10.5

Both the 9 and 10.5-degree driver are available in a Tour Length offering, featuring a shorter shaft length (44.50”) and a six gram and 18-gram weight in the front and back to dial in swing weight. Inspired by Rickie Fowler’s 43.50” driver.

King SpeedZone Xtreme driver specifications for both men and women

Model MyFly8 Loft Settings
12.5o  Women’s Driver  11.0, 11.5, 11.5 Draw, 12.5, 12.5 Draw, 13.5, 13.5 Draw, 14.0
12o Driver 10.5, 11.0, 11.0 Draw, 12.0, 12.0 Draw, 13.0, 13.0 Draw, 13.5
10.5o Driver  9.0, 9.5, 9.5 Draw, 10.5, 10.5 Draw, 11.5, 11.5 Draw, 12.0 
9o Driver 7.5, 8.0, 8.0 Draw, 9.0, 9.0 Draw, 10, 10.0 Draw, 10.5

All lofts in the Xtreme model are available in a Tour Length configuration in the 44.50” length with a 14 g weight in the back to dial in swing weight.  Each driver is available in the golfer’s choice of Gloss Black/Yellow or Matte Black/White head colors (Women’s is available in Gloss Black/Rose Gold) and comes equipped with a Lamkin Crossline (58+) Connect – Black grip and 4 premium aftermarket shaft options: a high-launch/mid-spin UST Helium (4 F2– A-Flex or 5 F3– Regular Flex); a mid-launch/mid spin Tensei CK AV Blue 65 (Stiff and Regular); a mid-launch/low spin Project X HZRDUS Smoke Yellow 60 (X-Stiff and Stiff); or the low launch/low spin Aldila Rogue Silver 60 (X-Stiff, Stiff). In addition, 20-plus no-charge premium shaft upgrades are available through custom. 

All SpeedZone products are available at retail and online, January 17, 2020.

 

 

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