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Forum Thread of the Day: “Best game improvement or super game improvement irons available?”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from dhen9 who opens up a discussion on both game improvement and super game improvement irons. Dhen9 asks WRXers what they feel are currently the best irons in either department presently available, which are both forgiving and clean looking. Our members share their thoughts with plenty of valuable insight provided.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • sdandrea: “PING G410 is a real player in that category. It looks very clean at address and plays very forgiving. G400 is still available as well.”
  • AG12: “P790’s have been a good combo of forgiveness, minimal offset, blade length, feel and ball flight for me. I had the Apex line, and they were great clubs but prefer the topline, etc. on the ’19 P790. I have hit and demoed the G410, G400, M5, M6, AP1 and AP3, and the 790 beat them out for me for all mentioned above.”
  • dannym53: “I upgraded to G410 and wish I had my 400’s back. Just played three rounds with them but to me, the 400’s feel better, but that’s just me.”
  • Ripken08: “Simple answer as previously posted…G410 or 919 Hot Metals. I have played several G series clubs over the years and got along ok with them. Had G410s briefly. The 919 HM are in a different league for ME. I hit them considerably better. And they look and feel better in my opinion. Only two serious contenders you should try…”
  • elon235: “I’ve been playing the Callaway Rogue Pro irons for the past 8 months and find them to be very forgiving but also have minimal offset. Very easy to work the ball or point and shoot. Also should save you some cash. Worth a look IMO.”

Entire Thread: “Best game improvement or super game improvement irons available?”

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  1. ChipNRun

    Nov 12, 2019 at 10:38 pm

    First a grammar note:
    “… best irons in either department presently available …”

    Correct phraseology is “currently available”… presently means “in the near future.”

    Second, how about separate discussions on SGI and GI clubs? You blade-runners fail to see the difference between the two categories.

    People with above-average swing speed may not find a BEST SGI iron, as SGI heads would tend to balloon the ball too much on short irons.

  2. dj

    Nov 5, 2019 at 3:49 pm

    Unless you hit each SGI club, you won’t know which brand works best for you. Buying off of the rack w/o hitting them isn’t the best choice to purchase clubs.

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Forum Thread of the Day: “Courses that are now obsolete on Tour due to power in the game?”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from Titleist99 who asks WRXers if they feel some golf courses are now obsolete on Tour due to the ever-growing power element in the game. Some of our members list tracks which they think will struggle to host majors again, while others explain why they feel every famous course still has its place on the calendar.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • oikos1: “The courses aren’t obsolete because most fans enjoy seeing a course overpowered. Golf traditionalists may not like it but just look at other sports today. Sure, a no-no, once it gets to the 7th becomes interesting, but most fans want to see homers and runs scored. Same in basketball, no one wants a pro game ending at 60-54 and football clearly is shooting for high scoring passing affairs. The majority of golf fans just don’t want to watch pro’s grind it out every week. They want to cheer for birdies and eagles. They want to see if the impossible is possible, the potential for crazy good. Bring on the 54 in golf! So no, golf courses aren’t becoming obsolete. PGA Tour attendance has been on the rise the last three years. If anything, they are looking at ways to make the events bigger and will seek venues that allow for just that.”
  • LICC: “Some former Majors courses that are now too short for the majors: St. Louis, Canterbury, Northwood, Prestwick, Myopia, Five Farms, Wannamoisett, Chicago Golf Club.”
  • Obee: “The problem with the shorter courses is that the Tour players don’t like having driver taken out of their hands. And that’s really all it is. They get ‘bored.’I get it; it does take away a large part of the game. But I would love to see them play more short courses were drivers taken out of their hands on a good number of holes. But as far as ‘obsolete’ goes. None of the courses are obsolete. They are just different.”
  • NJpatbee: “Course design and not just length add to the difficulty of a course. Pine Valley will never host a pro tournament because of their inability to handle the crowds; I would speculate that even the regular tees would be a challenge for the PGA Tour pros. The Championship Tees would be a bear. Now, I have never played there, but I am available if any member wishes to invite me!”
  • Titleist99: “PGA TOUR might want to add a little rough to protect our classic courses..”

Entire Thread: “Courses that are now obsolete on tour due to power in the game?”

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Jason Dufner WITB 2019

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Jason Dufner WITB is accurate as of the 2019 RSM Classic 

Driver: Cobra King F9 Speedback (10.5 @9.5 degrees)
Shaft: LA Golf Shafts OLYSS RSC 65-TX (45.75”)jason-dufner-witb

3-wood: Cobra SpeedZone (14.5 degrees)
Shaft: LA Golf Shafts OLYSS RSC 75-TX (tip 1”, 43”)

7-wood: Titleist 915F (21 degrees)
Shaft: Aldila Rogue Silver 125 MSI 80 TX

4-iron: Cobra King Forged Utility
Shaft: LAGP Proto Rev A

  • Note: Dufner also has a set-matching King Forged 4-iron in the bag, leading us to assume the 4-iron is a game-time decision.

Irons: Cobra King Forged CB (5-PW)
Shafts: True Temper AMT Tour White S400

Wedges: Cobra Raw Custom (52, 56 degrees), Cobra King MIM (60 degrees)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

Putter: Scotty Cameron Tour Newport Circa 2001
Grip: Super Stroke Pistol GTR Tour


Ball: Titleist Pro V1x

Grips: Super Stroke S-Tech Cord

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GolfWRX Spotted: Prototype Callaway Apex MB

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Callaway Prototype blade 2020 MB

“Its the most wonderful time fo the year” I’m talking testing and prototype season on the PGA Tour as we head into the winter break. At the RSM Classic, we spotted what looks to be some early Callaway prototype irons in the bag of Aaron Wise.

We’ve seen a few different Callaway Prototype MBs in players’ bags this year including a “special Japanese forged” version made for a few players, including Open Championship winner Francesco Molinari, and more recently, Maverick McNealy.

The new Prototype MB/Blade has all the telltale signs of a traditional Callaway-shaped blade including the thinner hosel-to-top transition—also known as the crotch of the iron—rounded lines, high toe, and short heel-to-toe length. What makes it a unique Callaway iron, of course, is the noticeable screw in the back of the head behind the center of gravity.

This design feature is not new, and for many gear junkies probably brings back memories of the original Adams Pro Black MB irons or the 2011 TaylorMade MBs.

 

By using a weight screw instead of traditional tip weights to get the club to spec, there is zero chance of moving the center of gravity horizontally towards the heel of the club. It helps add mass to improve feel. In most cases, a blade/MB iron from any OEM is built as a showpiece in a classic design. If we are looking at the new Apex MB from Callaway as a potential release in 2020, sticking to a classic style can be a great thing.

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