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Forum Thread of the Day: “Talk to me about driving irons…”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from balls_deep who as a high ball hitter, has sought WRXer’s advice on what driving iron may suit him best. In balls_deep’s words, he’s looking for “something that goes straight and is easy to flight high or low when needed and doesn’t want to go left” and a club off the tee which he can use “for shorter par 4s I can knock down and run out but still use on long par 3s and second shots into par 5s around the 220-230 mark.” Our members share their suggestions.

Here are a view posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • jvincent: “I’m going to guess P790 UDI will be the best option. I’m not quite as fast as you but am looking for a similar club, low launch, low spin for off the tee. I’ve resisted pulling the trigger on a few UDIs I’ve seen on eBay. So far.”
  • Lefty96: “I switched to a driving iron this year for the same reasons you’re stating about the hybrid. I would say we are very similar statistically speaking with our ball flights and speed. I added an 18 degree Srixon u85, and it does everything I need it to. I find it very easy to hit both off the tee and the fairway. It’s become a solid 230 club for me. I still launch it fairly high on a normal swing, but it is still lower than my old 18-degree hybrid. If I want to flight it low into the wind, I can make it happen the same way I would my 4 iron which is something I couldn’t do with the hybrid. It’s been a great club. I looked at the tmb but found it much less forgiving. That should be obvious when looking at the size differences, but for me, the slightly chunkier look doesn’t offend me with a driving iron.”
  • Pwood28: “Since you’re already playing a T-MB in your 4 iron, assuming you like it, I’d throw in the 3 iron since height, spin and distance don’t seem to be an issue. I’d also vouch for the UDI as a good choice and throw in the new Mizuno HMB. I recently bought a HMB 3 iron, and it is large enough that it gives you all the confidence in the world to go after the ball, but still retains decent looking lines.”
  • drvrwdge: “Srixon U85 at 20* for me. Its 250ish off the tee and my 235-240 club of the deck. Went Recoil 95 F5. Can flight it, hit it high, turn it over, hold it off etc.. Does everything and is supper forgiving especially on toe side strikes. Had an i500 3i with an AD 95x for a while and it was just tough to elevate off of the deck. Not as forgiving as the U85 either.”
  • wam78: “I hit the u500 last week, and I came away impressed. Fantastic look at address without looking too GI. Felt good out the middle and was pretty easy to hit. If I were in the market probably would have purchased not the spot.”

Entire Thread: “Talk to me about driving irons…”

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  1. Bill

    Nov 4, 2019 at 7:00 pm

    I wouldn’t write off hybrids 100% yet. I dip into both worlds as I have a Mizuno MP H-4 bent to 22*. Shaft is X100 so probably around 130 grams. Love it. 215-225 window off the tee, 230 if I really lean on it. I also have an 18* Adams Idea Pro Black 9031 hybrid with a super stiff Aldila RIP alpha 105 gram shaft. I’m a pretty mid trajectory player most of the time and I can work both clubs pretty well. I hated hybrids for the longest time because I’d always hit this whippy snaphook that just hooked forever it seemed. The Aldila shaft solved all my problems so I guess the best thing for you to do would be to get on the range and hit everything you can. You could do a launch monitor obviously, but I’ve never really trusted them compared to the eye test. Also, the gap you are trying to fill is important as a hybrid or iron may just fit better there.

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Forum Thread of the Day: “Courses that are now obsolete on Tour due to power in the game?”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from Titleist99 who asks WRXers if they feel some golf courses are now obsolete on Tour due to the ever-growing power element in the game. Some of our members list tracks which they think will struggle to host majors again, while others explain why they feel every famous course still has its place on the calendar.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • oikos1: “The courses aren’t obsolete because most fans enjoy seeing a course overpowered. Golf traditionalists may not like it but just look at other sports today. Sure, a no-no, once it gets to the 7th becomes interesting, but most fans want to see homers and runs scored. Same in basketball, no one wants a pro game ending at 60-54 and football clearly is shooting for high scoring passing affairs. The majority of golf fans just don’t want to watch pro’s grind it out every week. They want to cheer for birdies and eagles. They want to see if the impossible is possible, the potential for crazy good. Bring on the 54 in golf! So no, golf courses aren’t becoming obsolete. PGA Tour attendance has been on the rise the last three years. If anything, they are looking at ways to make the events bigger and will seek venues that allow for just that.”
  • LICC: “Some former Majors courses that are now too short for the majors: St. Louis, Canterbury, Northwood, Prestwick, Myopia, Five Farms, Wannamoisett, Chicago Golf Club.”
  • Obee: “The problem with the shorter courses is that the Tour players don’t like having driver taken out of their hands. And that’s really all it is. They get ‘bored.’I get it; it does take away a large part of the game. But I would love to see them play more short courses were drivers taken out of their hands on a good number of holes. But as far as ‘obsolete’ goes. None of the courses are obsolete. They are just different.”
  • NJpatbee: “Course design and not just length add to the difficulty of a course. Pine Valley will never host a pro tournament because of their inability to handle the crowds; I would speculate that even the regular tees would be a challenge for the PGA Tour pros. The Championship Tees would be a bear. Now, I have never played there, but I am available if any member wishes to invite me!”
  • Titleist99: “PGA TOUR might want to add a little rough to protect our classic courses..”

Entire Thread: “Courses that are now obsolete on tour due to power in the game?”

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Jason Dufner WITB 2019

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Jason Dufner WITB is accurate as of the 2019 RSM Classic 

Driver: Cobra King F9 Speedback (10.5 @9.5 degrees)
Shaft: LA Golf Shafts OLYSS RSC 65-TX (45.75”)jason-dufner-witb

3-wood: Cobra SpeedZone (14.5 degrees)
Shaft: LA Golf Shafts OLYSS RSC 75-TX (tip 1”, 43”)

7-wood: Titleist 915F (21 degrees)
Shaft: Aldila Rogue Silver 125 MSI 80 TX

4-iron: Cobra King Forged Utility
Shaft: LAGP Proto Rev A

  • Note: Dufner also has a set-matching King Forged 4-iron in the bag, leading us to assume the 4-iron is a game-time decision.

Irons: Cobra King Forged CB (5-PW)
Shafts: True Temper AMT Tour White S400

Wedges: Cobra Raw Custom (52, 56 degrees), Cobra King MIM (60 degrees)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

Putter: Scotty Cameron Tour Newport Circa 2001
Grip: Super Stroke Pistol GTR Tour


Ball: Titleist Pro V1x

Grips: Super Stroke S-Tech Cord

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GolfWRX Spotted: Prototype Callaway Apex MB

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Callaway Prototype blade 2020 MB

“Its the most wonderful time fo the year” I’m talking testing and prototype season on the PGA Tour as we head into the winter break. At the RSM Classic, we spotted what looks to be some early Callaway prototype irons in the bag of Aaron Wise.

We’ve seen a few different Callaway Prototype MBs in players’ bags this year including a “special Japanese forged” version made for a few players, including Open Championship winner Francesco Molinari, and more recently, Maverick McNealy.

The new Prototype MB/Blade has all the telltale signs of a traditional Callaway-shaped blade including the thinner hosel-to-top transition—also known as the crotch of the iron—rounded lines, high toe, and short heel-to-toe length. What makes it a unique Callaway iron, of course, is the noticeable screw in the back of the head behind the center of gravity.

This design feature is not new, and for many gear junkies probably brings back memories of the original Adams Pro Black MB irons or the 2011 TaylorMade MBs.

 

By using a weight screw instead of traditional tip weights to get the club to spec, there is zero chance of moving the center of gravity horizontally towards the heel of the club. It helps add mass to improve feel. In most cases, a blade/MB iron from any OEM is built as a showpiece in a classic design. If we are looking at the new Apex MB from Callaway as a potential release in 2020, sticking to a classic style can be a great thing.

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