Equipment
DeChambeau makes history with 14 graphite shafts on PGA Tour (inside info from LA Golf Shafts)
There was a lot of talk about golf history being made this week at the Shriners Hospitals for Children Open, and much of it had something to do with LA Golf shafts.
First, we had Kevin Na, become the FIRST golfer in history (since available data) to be negative strokes gained: tee-to-green but still win the event. Kevin can thank his smoking hot putter, which helped him make over 558 feet worth of putts for the week—an Odyssey Toulon Madison with an LA Golf Shafts Ozik TP graphite putter shaft.
The other part of history had to do with Bryson “The Golfing Scientist” DeChambeau. Bryson became the first golfer on the PGA Tour to ever use graphite shafts in each one of his clubs from top to bottom—that’s right, all 14 clubs including his putter had graphite shafts.
This all started with his “Rebar” wedge shafts discussed here (GolfWRX Spotted: LA Golf “REBAR” Wedge Shafts) and in the talk with LA Golf Shafts Chief Product Officer John Oldenburg, he touched on how irons shafts were next. This week has proven that testing obviously went well, and while defending his SHCO title, DeChambeau finished with a final round 63 to finish fourth.
From John on the new iron shafts Bryson had in play
“In a nutshell, the ‘Texas Rebar’ shafts are really, really stiff. In a test session with Bryson a few weeks back, he noticed that as he went stiffer in iron shafts his performance improved as it relates to launch, spin, dispersion, and shot control.
“The versatility of composite materials allows us to add stiffness, drop torque, move the balance, and modify the flex profile without adding additional weight. We designed him ‘rebar’ for the 4-iron, 7-iron, and wedge, as those irons he likes to test with. He put the wedge shafts in play immediately in Napa, and then said, “let’s make the rest!”
“We sent him some more of the wedge shafts to Vegas along with some of the 4-iron prototypes. I was not there, but my understanding is that he put the 4-iron shaft in his 4 and 5-iron and put the wedge shaft in all of the other irons. Our original plan was to make a full set of individual shafts for each club, with a progressive frequency and tip stiffness profile. Bryson has chosen to play the shafts in his current configuration since he feels they perform so well.
“We believe this will be an ongoing process, and will continue to fine tune the shafts to meet Bryson’s performance requirements. The current wedge and 4-iron shaft are both around 120 grams. The 4-iron shaft is slightly softer overall and in the tip than the wedge. Although they are 10-15 grams lighter than the TT DG X7 they are nearly a full flex stiffer and are lower in torque than his previous X7 shafts.”
With Bryson, the testing never truly stops, and we look forward to seeing what will end up in his golf bag next!
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- Alex Fitzpatrick what’s in the bag accurate as of the Zurich Classic.
Driver: Ping G430 LST (10.5 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Black 6 X
3-wood: TaylorMade Qi10 (15 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus TR Black 7 X
Hybrid: Ping G430 (19 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Black HB 10 TX
Irons: Ping iCrossover (2), Titleist T100 (4-PW)
Shafts: Fujikura Ventus Black HB 9 TX (2), Nippon N.S. Pro Modus 3 Tour 120 X (4-9)
Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM10 (50-12F, 56-12D, 60-08M)
Shafts: Nippon N.S. Pro Modus 3 Tour 120 X
Putter: Bettinardi SS16 Dass
Grips: Golf Pride MCC
Check out more in-hand photos of Alex Fitzpatrick’s clubs here.
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In our forums, our members have been discussing Mini-Drivers and accompanying shafts. WRXer ‘JamesFisher1990’ is about to purchase a BRNR Mini and is torn on what shaft weight to use, and our members have been sharing their thoughts and set ups in our forum.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- PARETO: “New BRNR at 13.5. Took it over to TXG (Club Champ but TXG will always rule) in Calgary for a fit. Took the head down to 12, stuck in a Graphite Design AD at 3 wood length and 60g. Presto- numbers that rivaled my G430Max but with waaaaay tighter dispersion. Win.”
- driveandputtmachine: “Still playing a MIni 300. The head was only 208, so I ordered a heavier weight and play it at 3 wood length. I am playing a Ventus Red 70. I play 70 grams in my fairways. I use it mainly to hit draws off the tee. When I combine me, a driver, and trying to hit a draw it does not work out well most of the time. So the MIni is for that. As an aside, I have not hit the newest BRNR, but the previous model wasn’t great off the deck. The 300 Mini is very good off the deck.”
- JAM01: “Ok, just put the BRNR in the bag along side a QI10 max and a QI10 3 wood. A load of top end redundancy. But, I have several holes at my two home courses where the flight and accuracy of the mini driver helps immensely. Mine is stock Proforce 65 at 13.5, I could see a heavier shaft, but to normal flex, as a nice alternative.”
Entire Thread: “What’s the perfect Mini-Driver/Shaft combo? – GolfWRXers discuss”
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At GolfWRX, we are a community of like-minded individuals that all experience and express our enjoyment of the game in many ways.
It’s that sense of community that drives day-to-day interactions in the forums on topics that range from best driver to what marker you use to mark your ball. It even allows us to share another thing we all love – buying and selling equipment.
Currently, in our GolfWRX buy/sell/trade (BST) forum, there is a listing for an Artisan 0521 custom putter
From the seller: (@Nobody2): “$775 -Artisan 0521 custom putter PVD (black finish) with sweep neck hosel. There are no personal stampings other than my player # in very small print on the side of the hosel (all Artisan products have this along with the date it was made). This putter looks absolutely amazing and has only been used for 3 rounds. It has a black steel shaft and has a very Cam Smith look to it. The putter looks new and has no wear marks anywhere on the putter. It comes with extra weights (one set of of 5 gram weights and one set of 15 gram weights). The head cover is a a navy blue ‘quilted blade putter cover.’ If you are wondering why I am selling…I flat out have the yips and the only thing saving me is a broomstick. New, this putter is $1085, so if the specs work for you (grip, length and lie can certainly be tweaked) it will save you some good money and 2 month wait time.
Specs:
To check out the full listing in our BST forum, head through the link: Artisan 0521 custom putter
This is the most impressive current listing from the GolfWRX BST, and if you are curious about the rules to participate in the BST Forum you can check them out here: GolfWRX BST Rules
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#1KuchFan
Oct 13, 2019 at 2:46 pm
He’s so quirky. I can’t get enough of these articles. They hardly ever mention the golfing scientist. So quirky.
Simon Taylor
Oct 14, 2019 at 11:59 pm
Thick thick sarcasm…. best ????
Jarnio Bubly
Oct 12, 2019 at 12:14 am
Some players make history with their stellar play while Bryson makes history with is equipment.
Zach
Oct 9, 2019 at 12:50 pm
PXG: Hold my beer
Cody
Oct 8, 2019 at 10:37 pm
I play aldila rip 115 slt tour x flex shafts. Super stiff and a torque rating of 1 to 1.4 depending on the iron.
Cody
Oct 8, 2019 at 10:38 pm
Steel is dead graphite is the future.
rjvanro
Oct 8, 2019 at 9:13 pm
All graphite is probably why Bryson has decided to pump some iron. Probably feeling a little less manly. LOL
Piter
Oct 8, 2019 at 6:06 am
Good on him for trying stuff. I hadn’t heard about SL clubs before untill i read about him using them, and am interested. I prefer graphite shafts, despite being strong enough (that silly common excuse for buying steel shafts), but because of the feel. Nice to see a pro not following convention all the time.
JThunder
Oct 7, 2019 at 10:49 pm
I just come on the internet to vent my frustration with life. Bryson sucks because he’s different. Lots of other suck because they’re too much the same. Tour issued clubs are better than what we can get at retail, so that sucks. But pros could play the same regardless of what’s in their bag, so that sucks. OEMs never invent anything new, just repackage and steal and it’s all marketing – that sucks. Amateurs need lessons and no golf club is going to improve their game, and that sucks too.
PLightning
Oct 8, 2019 at 12:07 pm
Lessons from washed out hacks that never broke 80 that were taught on youtube suck.
A. Commoner
Oct 8, 2019 at 2:00 pm
Give life a chance. You might feel better.
rjvanro
Oct 8, 2019 at 9:11 pm
LOL JThunder you would be a great person to have a beer with. LOL snowing here in Calgary and that really sucks!
Kevin
Oct 7, 2019 at 5:52 pm
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I believe Phil Mickelson used all graphite shafts in each one of his clubs when he was with Yonex at one time. He was with them in from 1992-2000 and know the iron and putter were graphite. Not sure how much research this writer did to make the claim however a quick search of this side shows his bag.
chip75
Oct 7, 2019 at 6:19 pm
My thoughts went straight to Mickelson as well, there were times (when he was Yonex) when Phil had an Eye2 wedge in his bag and a Titleist PT fairway wood (it might have been a Taylor Made Tour Preferred?), but I’m pretty sure he gamed a full set of graphite shafts.
Joe
Oct 7, 2019 at 10:09 pm
I think you are correct.
Lefty
Oct 8, 2019 at 5:58 am
Dear Numpties,
Lefty had a steel putter shaft.
chip75
Oct 8, 2019 at 4:14 pm
From what I remember he did have a steel putter shaft, but he gamed graphite for a time too. It would have been around 1995-1996.
JP
Oct 7, 2019 at 5:40 pm
If it speeds up his pace of play, I’m all for it…
Caroline
Oct 7, 2019 at 5:03 pm
Bryson is like every pro out there when he is on he is on….no rotation in the shaft makes it easier to hit straight shots, and very little open/close of club face to curve the ball. I would think the stiffest shafts work well with that concept as any kind of bend is going to move the club face…and his swing is around and through with little wrist/hand angles at all (Steve Stricker) or Moe Norman with a wrist set that does not open or close the club face….
Jason B
Oct 7, 2019 at 5:00 pm
He changes shafts quicker than he putts 8 footers.
C
Oct 7, 2019 at 4:52 pm
Another reason proving pros suck now compared to Jack and Arnies days.
dat
Oct 7, 2019 at 3:15 pm
But, will it actually help his game and will he win?
Rich Douglas
Oct 7, 2019 at 2:14 pm
Disclaimer: “Professional Golfer. Do not try this at home.”
Dave
Oct 7, 2019 at 2:10 pm
In other news LA Golf sold out of their entire inventory of rebar shafts due to rampant demand from every GolfWRX “scratch” golfer under the sun who thinks they should play the stiffest shafts on the planet.
Rich Douglas
Oct 7, 2019 at 2:15 pm
Thank you. Now if we could just get them to shut up about the no-offset forged blades they use to hit all those shanks….
Shallowface
Oct 7, 2019 at 2:08 pm
I like Bryson, but if any of this stuff really mattered he’d never lose. As it is, he wins a few, loses most, has some high finishes and misses some cuts. Just like everyone else. And if he decided tomorrow to go with a bag of conventional gear, his results would be exactly the same. Or maybe better, who knows, as it might clear his head of some of the clutter. I believe he will eventually try it.
Eastpointe
Oct 7, 2019 at 2:55 pm
I would tend to agree with you if we were talking about a new driver head or new putter head but we are talking about an outside the box completely unheard of shaft profile. I think this is really interesting and with time and practice Bryson could revolutionize golf club setups
Brandon
Oct 7, 2019 at 10:17 pm
Exactly. People occasionally survive jumping off the golden gate bridge, but that doesn’t mean it’s a good idea.
DukeOfChinoHills
Oct 7, 2019 at 2:06 pm
This is a passing fad.
James
Oct 7, 2019 at 1:46 pm
Yea, this is history worth remembering. I’m sure he he huddled with his PR people and said, let’s make history. Just wow.
Bing Hogan
Oct 7, 2019 at 12:30 pm
We’ll see how long this lasts…
Rich Douglas
Oct 7, 2019 at 2:22 pm
Right. Because he’s the only pro golfer–or golfer of any stripe–who tinkers.
252 golfers have won 5 or more PGA tour events in the history of professional golf.
Five golfers have ever won the NCAA and US Amateur in the same year.
Bryson is on both of those lists.
Oh, and he’s been playing single-length irons the entire time. So that shows quite a bit of commitment to a concept.
Benny
Oct 8, 2019 at 7:34 am
Well said Rich Douglas. I don’t like Bryson’s attitude and not shaking hands while tossing a baby fit. But have to hand it to him. He hits bombs (which most don’t know) and the dude is doing something never heard of.
I commend him and regardless if this is a PR move to get LA Golf Shafts name out there. It shows the dude is not stopping anytime soon. I have seen a number of guys online and in Boston area swear by single length. Lets see where this goes..