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Forum Thread of the Day: “Anyone else ditching fairway woods for low lofted hybrids?”
Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from Crazy About Golf who has recently traded in his 3-wood in favor of his 16-degree hybrid. The reasons behind the move, according to Crazy About Golf is
“I’m more comfortable hitting it off the deck and off the tee, and only seem to lose about 10 yards of distance compared to the 3-wood (assuming I strike the 3-wood perfectly). More often than not, I have a slight mishit on the 3-wood and end up short and or offline from where I would have otherwise been with the 16-degree hybrid. I’ve tried out a number of new fairway woods and haven’t yet found anything that has “WOWed” me. With hybrid clubs getting better and better, I’m not seeing much of a downside.”
Crazy About Golf asks fellow members what they make of his strategy and how the approach has worked out for those who have done the same, in what has turned into a very insightful discussion.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire thread and have your say in the discussion at the link below.
- North Butte: “For quite a while my top-of-bag setup was a 10.5 driver (set to 12 degrees) then an 18-degree 5-Wood and then a 23-degree 4-Hybrid. In my most recent equipment “replacement cycle” (rhymes with “ho”) I’m using driver then 18 and 23-degree hybrids. I’m not sure I’m giving up any distance at all on average with the 41″ hybrid vs 42-1/2″ 5-Wood, and I am certainly gaining consistency and straightness. The trajectory is lower with the hybrid, but it isn’t like I was stopping 5-Wood shots on a dime either. Net benefit isn’t huge, but it’s been a worthwhile change. Plus my 18 and 23-degree hybrids are the same model with the same shaft, so that’s twice as many shots per round with near-identical clubs, helping me even more with consistency and confidence.”
- gioguy21: “I’m currently on the fence about whether to keep my 3w in the bag or just use my epic 3i w/ hybrid shaft; b/c they’re close in terms of distance, and the driving iron is much more consistent and goes straight as an arrow. the 3w has the extra distance but, it is more workable and sometimes that is good – others it can be bad.”
- jimb6golf: “Swapped out my 5 wood for a 2 hybrid. The hybrid is much easier to hit off the fairway and especially in the rough. Occasionally put the 5 wood back in on courses where I might use it off the tee a few times though.”
- NRJyzr: “Currently playing with no 3w, only a TM Stage 2 Tour 2h between my irons and driver. Primarily playing one course that’s par 71 6100/6500 from whites/blues, there’s not much call for a 3w shot off the deck, and shorter tee shots can be handled with the 2h. Other nice aspects… The 2h can also more easily be shafted with a 100g+ shaft than a fairway wood; I’m using an NV105 iron shaft in it. I tend to prefer shorter club lengths than are currently “standard” in drivers and woods; the shorter hybrid length appeals to me greatly. Since making the switch, it’s been working quite well.”
Entire Thread: “Anyone else ditching fairway woods for low lofted hybrids?”
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- Jason Day what’s in the bag accurate as of the RBC Heritage.
Driver: Ping G430 LST (9 degrees @10)
Shaft: TPT Driver 15 Lo
3-wood: TaylorMade SIM Max (15 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Kuro Kage 80 X
7-wood: TaylorMade Stealth (21 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Kuro Kage 80 X
Irons: Srixon ZX5 Mk II (3, 4), Srixon ZX7 Mk II (5-PW)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold X Seven
Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM10 (52-08F, 56-10S, 60-04T), Cleveland RTX 6 ZipCore Tour Rack (56-10 MID, 52-10 MID)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold X Seven
Putter: TaylorMade Itsy Bitsy Spider Limited
Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Cord
Ball: Bridgestone Tour B X (with Mindset)
Check out more in-hand photos of Jason Day’s WITB here.
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- Ludvig Åberg what’s in the bag accurate as of the RBC Heritage.
Driver: Titleist TSR2 (9 degrees, D4 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Black 6 X
3-wood: TaylorMade Stealth 2 (15 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 8 X
5-wood: TaylorMade Stealth 2 (18 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 8 X
7-wood: TaylorMade Stealth 2 (21 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 9 X
Irons: Titleist 718 TMB (2), Titleist T200 (2), Titleist T100 (4-PW)
Shafts: KBS Tour Hybrid 105 X (2), KBS Tour 130 X
Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM10 (50-08F, 54-10S, 60-08M, 60-04T), WedgeWorks Proto (60-10V)
Shafts: KBS Tour 130 X
Putter: Odyssey White Hot Versa #1
Grips: Golf Pride MCC
Ball: Titleist Pro V1x
Check out more in-hand photos of Ludvig Aberg’s clubs in the forums.
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We have seen a few new mini drivers from the likes of Titleist and TaylorMade being tested out on tour recently. Now, Callaway looks to be jumping into the mix at the RBC Heritage. We spotted Christian Bezuidenhout testing out a new Paradym Ai Smoke Ti 340 mini driver on the range. We don’t have any details yet but the club clearly states “mini driver” on it, and the “340” could easily refer to how many CCs the head is.
What we do know is that this mini driver has a very similar design to the current Paradym Ai Smoke Triple Diamond 3-wood. The sole looks to be made from steel or titanium, not forged carbon like the Paradym Ai Smoke drivers. It has weights up near the face and at the back of the club. Callaway’s OptiFit hosel is also present on this driver to allow loft and lie adjustments, and if you look closely on the face, you can make out the “Ai Smart Face” text at bottom center. The crown looks to have the familiar carbon fiber weave and Ai Smoke logos we have seen on the current clubs.
Callaway Paradym Ai Smoke DUW
The other Callaway prototype that was spotted looked to be a little more of a traditional fairway wood — but with non-traditional weight placements on it. Callaway’s Paradym Ai Smoke DUW looks to have four adjustable weights on it — two on the sole, one on the hosel, and one on the toe. This hosel isn’t adjustable, and I would assume that is to save some weight from creating spots for the movable weights.
It is hard to tell from the photos, but the face looks to be a touch deeper than the traditional Triple Diamond fairways. This deeper face could be where the “DUW” name comes from. With three weights all pushed forward near the face this DUW has to be a very low spinning and launching head. The sole is made from metal and similar in design to the current Paradym Ai Smoke Triple Diamond fairway woods as is the carbon crown.
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jc
Oct 16, 2019 at 4:58 pm
I used to not like my 3 wood, crooked and low….but after coming back from a stroke and not swinging as hard, I suddenly could hit it pretty well. Guess staying down is the trick. I also have a 4 wood 16.5 and it is almost the same disance so now I rotate my 3,4,5,7 woods with my hybrids….out of the rough, the hybrids are still the club to hit though.
Eric
Oct 7, 2019 at 12:00 pm
I am just doing this. Picked up a Cobra Oversized Hybrid to replace fairway. Keep it playable!
Webster
Oct 1, 2019 at 4:16 pm
This is really people just realizing that it’s easier to hit shorter length clubs; it’s not the fact that one is a called a FW wood and the other a Hybrid. It’s easier to make solid contact with a similarly lofted hybrid that is around 2″ shorter than the corresponding FW wood. I play my 3w(13.5) and 5w(18) at 41″ and 40″ which is pretty much hybrid lengths. And I play my 3H(20) and 4H(24) with at traditional iron lengths; 38.75″ and 38.25″.
Scratchscorer
Oct 8, 2019 at 3:32 pm
I agree. I put a 5-wood shaft in the 3-wood head and consistency improved. Cut Driver shaft down 1/2 and inch and got more consistent and longer because I hit the middle of the face more often.
Brett
Oct 1, 2019 at 10:38 am
I went the other way. When I was a 20 handicap I “upgraded” from a fairway wood to a low lofted hybrid, rationalizing that it was easier to hit and gave up only moderate distance. In reality, I just wasn’t that good a holler and couldn’t consistently hit either. As I’ve lowered my handicap to a 10, I realize that it didn’t matter which club I hit, if I couldn’t hit the center of the club face consistently, then the result would suck. Learn how to hit the center of the club face and you’ll likely much prefer a fairway wood, which has a bigger, more forgiving face and greater distance and accuracy.
Ray
Oct 1, 2019 at 7:27 am
I now use my 3 wood instead of a driver and use hybrids off the fairway.
Alex
Sep 30, 2019 at 8:40 pm
Bol playing a 7000 yard course with no 3 wood.
Joeoe
Sep 30, 2019 at 8:55 pm
Exactly my thoughts.If you want to stay a high handicapper then ditch the 3 wood
John Ponterio
Sep 30, 2019 at 5:56 pm
Get a 4 hybrid and a 5 wood for off the tee
Clay Reed
Sep 30, 2019 at 4:56 pm
Exactly like the gentleman with screen name NRJyzr
above. I get a lot of distance with 17 degree hybrid and 19 and 21. I have slightly less distance but the margin of error is almost zero. It takes a horrendous swing to hit a hybrid very bad or off track at all. I also have a bit of a steep swing and I have always been able to hit a driver off the deck with ease. So for anything freakishly long it’s driver, otherwise I am all about consistency and minimizing my bad swings. I been quoted at times as saying hybrids are almost like cheating. There’s not many places that I can’t hit one from and I tend to play hybrids that I derive a ton of feel from. So if I am off in some pine needles, sandy gravel, or any type of rough that’s not high grass there’s a high probability that I can hit a choke down hybrid off of the surface and have the end result be far better than any iron or wedge in my bag.
golfraven
Sep 30, 2019 at 3:35 pm
The average Joe is better staying away from a 2 (17 degree) or even 3 (19 degree) hybrid. If you don’t swing it faster than 100 mphs than you will benefit from a 4 or 5 wood. Ditched my 3 hybrid and got a 21 degree one and a 17 degree 4 wood.
Adam
Sep 30, 2019 at 2:45 pm
Adam’s Idea Super Hybrids (before Taylormade buyout) are on ebay for less than $50 and they’re the best hybrid you’ll ever hit. I have 2 21, 2 19 and a 15 is on the way. No need for the 3 wood for me, I hit the 15 255