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Forum Thread of the Day: “Best clubs for a strong newbie?”



Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from Sparty47 who is on the hunt for the best clubs for a strong newbie. In our forums, Sparty47 disclosed the following information on his game 

“Started golfing seriously in Feb. of this year and looking to replace my old irons. Current gamers are some Callaway Diablo Edge irons/hybrids. They’re “R” flex w standard LLL.”

“Little info on my game… I’m a younger guy, and former athlete so don’t have any problem generating clubhead speed (7 iron 105+mph) but my ball striking is not good (yet?). I’ve taken a few lessons, and the pro insists I have a “good” swing just lack consistency in my sequence/delivery. Also said I NEED new irons, “R flex” with my speed and fast tempo is a bad combo. Also, the heads I’m using have very poor feedback on strikes.”

Our members have been giving their thoughts on what direction Sparty47 should now take, and how he can get the best out of his game going forward.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • mtiger10: “Sounds like you’ve done all the right things for somebody new to the game – lessons, fitting, having right shafts and LLL is certainly important. Cavity backs may not always provide that feel you desire but certainly will help until your swing consistency is where you want. There are certainly great options in between SGI and players irons. The “players distance” category or “game improvement” targeted at mid handicappers may be a good place to start. Demo, demo, demo before purchasing!”
  • drumdude96: “I would seriously consider simply re-shafting your current clubs. The Diablo Edge is a pretty good set for someone new to the game. They will give you the high launch and forgiveness you need right now. You likely need some heavier and stiffer shafts to get the most out of them though. There are some really good shaft options nowadays with parallel tips to fit into those heads. Dynamic Gold X100, Nippon Pro Modus 3 Tour 120 and 130, KBS Tour and C Taper are just a few off the top of my head that might work well for you. If I were in your shoes, I would work with a fitter to find the right shafts and then just have the Callaways re-shafted. That approach will save you some money that you can spend on more lessons, which are very important at this stage in the game.”
  • Larry14: “Try Ben Hogan Edge irons, you can go to their web site and order two irons to try out for $20….Being athletic you may find the smaller “Forged” head a blessing as to learning to hit the sweet spot…I found they made me really put effort into all parts of my swing from set up to contact…you will know by feel what a center hit verse a toe or heel hit feel like. Even just doing their demo deal is well worth the time….tip is to find a range you can hit off grass before you buy any new irons…”
  • lawsonman: “The first thing I would tell you to do is quit worrying about swinging so fast. If you swing your seven iron 105+ mph on the course, you’re 15 mph faster than the average on the PGA Tour. Slow down and get some control in your game or it won’t matter what kind of irons you’re playing.”

Entire Thread: “Best clubs for a strong newbie?”

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  1. Anthony Bekiaris

    Sep 9, 2019 at 8:38 pm

    you’re a quick study or a deep thinker to be so new to the game and have already got your head around the fitting/technical side of golf wow… i was to struggling enough trying to learn to get up and down out of a bunker to even know what L,L,L were?

  2. Brandon

    Sep 4, 2019 at 10:07 pm

    If you are picking up the game quickly you shouldn’t buy a set of game improvement or super game improvement that you will want to replace in a year when you are striking the ball more consistently. A players distance iron is probably what you want, and you definitely want to chill on that 7 iron. Smooth is fast.

  3. Prime21

    Sep 4, 2019 at 8:54 pm

    Doesn’t sound like ur clubs lack feedback, sounds like you don’t know what you’re looking for. Learn to control your swing. Know the difference between 105, 100 & 95 mph. Speed is irrelevant if you don’t know where center is or if you can’t repeat it. Obviously speed is great, but if it is not channeled, it is wasted. Stop searching and learn how to hit those clubs, then get fit by a reputable fitter and see if swinging harder with proper flex makes sense. A “new” golfer does not know the definition of feedback so ignore the lingo and do the work.

  4. James

    Sep 4, 2019 at 12:12 pm

    A used set of game improvement irons with X100 shafts.

    • dat

      Sep 4, 2019 at 1:32 pm

      Easy. Get some X stiff shafts in a moderate set of USED “game improvement irons” and then take lessons.

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Whats in the Bag

Dustin Johnson WITB 2020



Driver: TaylorMade SIM (10.5 @ 10 degrees, D4 swing weight)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Black 6 X (tipped 1 inch, 45.75 inches)

Fairway wood: TaylorMade SIM Max (15 degrees)
Shaft: Aldila RIP Alpha 90 X

Hybrid: TaylorMade SIM Max Rescue (22 @ 19 degrees)
Shaft: Project X HZRDUS Black 105 X

Irons: TaylorMade P790 (3), TaylorMade P730 DJ Proto (4-PW)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 (soft stepped)

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 (52-09, 60-10 @ 62 degrees)
Shafts: KBS Tour Custom Black 120 S

Putter: TaylorMade Spider Tour Mini
Grip: SuperStroke Traxion Pistol GT 1.0

Ball: TaylorMade TP5

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet 58R (1 wrap 2-way tape + 2 wraps left hand, 3 right hand)

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Top 10 clubs of 2003—inspired by Adam Scott’s Titleist 680 irons



As has been well documented, Adam Scott recently won the Genesis Invitational with a set of Titleist 680 blade irons, a design that was originally released in 2003. One of the great benefits of being one of the best players in the world is you don’t need to search eBay to find your preferred set of 17-year-old irons. Titleist has been stocking sets for Mr. Scott—even to the point of doing a limited production run in 2018 where they then released 400 sets for sale to the general public.

A lot of time has passed since 2003, and considering the classic nature of Scott’s Titleist 680, I figured now was a good time to look back at some other iconic clubs released around the same time.

Ping G2 driver

This was Ping’s first 460cc driver with a full shift into titanium head design. The previous Si3 models still utilized the TPU adjustable hosel, and this was considered a big step forward for the Phoenix-based OEM. The driver was a big hit both on tour and at retail—as was the rest of the G2 line that included irons.

TaylorMade RAC LT (first gen) irons

The RAC LTs helped position TaylorMade back among the leaders in the better players iron category. The entire RAC (Relative Amplitude Coefficient) line was built around creating great feeling products that also provided the right amount of forgiveness for the target player. It also included an over-sized iron too. The RAC LT went on to have a second-generation version, but the original LTs are worthy of “classic” status.

TaylorMade R580 XD driver

Honestly, how could we not mention the TaylorMade R580 XD driver? TM took some of the most popular drivers in golf, the R500 series and added extra distance (XD). OK, that might be an oversimplification of what the XD series offered, but with improved shape, increased ball speed outside of the sweet spot, and lower spin, it’s no wonder you can still find these drivers in the bags of golfers at courses and driving ranges everywhere.

Titleist 680MB irons

The great thing about blades is that beyond changing sole designs and shifting the center of gravity, the basic design for a one-piece forged head hasn’t changed that much. For Adam Scott, the 680s are the perfect blend of compact shape, higher CG, and sole profile.

Titleist 983K, E drivers

If you were a “Titleist player,” you had one of these drivers! As one of the last companies to move into the 460cc category, the 983s offered a classic pear shape in a smaller profile. It was so good and so popular, it was considered the benchmark for Titleist drivers for close to the next decade.

Cleveland Launcher 330 driver

It wasn’t that long ago that OEMs were just trying to push driver head size over 300cc, and Cleveland’s first big entry into the category was the Launcher Titanium 330 driver. It didn’t live a long life, but the Launcher 330 was the grandaddy to the Launcher 400, 460, and eventually, the Launcher COMP, which is another club on this list that many golfers will still have fond memories about.

Mizuno MP 33 irons

Although released in the fall of 2002, the Mizuno MP 33 still makes the list because of its staying power. Much like the Titleist 680, this curved muscle blade was a favorite to many tour players, including future world No. 1 Luke Donald. The MP 33 stayed in Mizuno’s lineup for more than four years and was still available for custom orders years after that. Unfortunately, if you are looking for a set now you are going to have to go the used route.

Callaway X-16 irons

The Steelhead X-16 was a big hit at retail for Callaway. It offered greater forgiveness than the previous X-14’s but had a more compact shape with a wider topline to inspire confidence. They featured Callaway’s “Notch” weighting system that moved more mass to the perimeter of the head for higher MOI and improved feel. There was a reduced offset pro series version of the iron, but the X-16 was the one more players gravitated towards. This is another game improvement club for that era that can still be found in a lot of golf bags.

Ben Hogan CFT irons

The Hogan CFTs were at the forefront of multi-material iron technology in 2003. CFT stood for Compression Forged Titanium and allowed engineers to push more mass to the perimeter of the head to boost MOI by using a thin titanium face insert. They had what would be considered stronger lofts at the time sounded really powerful thanks to the thin face insert. If you are looking for a value set of used irons, this is still a great place to start.

King Cobra SZ driver

In 2003, Rickie Fowler was only 15 years old and Cobra was still living under the Acushnet umbrella as Titleist’s game improvement little brother. The Cobra SZ (Sweet Zone, NOT 2020 Speed Zone) was offered in a couple of head sizes to appeal to different players. The thing I will always remember about the original King Cobra SZ is that it came in an offset version to help golfers who generally slice the ball—a design trait that we still see around today.

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Today from the Forums: “The importance of wedge fitting”



Today from the Forums we delve into a subject dedicated to wedge fitting. Liquid_A_45 wants to know if wedge fitting is as essential for golfers as iron fitting, and our members weigh into the discussion saying why they feel it is just as imperative.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Z1ggy16: “Super important if you’re a serious golfer. Even better if you can get fit outdoors on real grass and even go into a bunker.”
  • ThunderBuzzworth: “The biggest part of wedge fitting is yardage gapping and sole grinds. If you have a grind that doesn’t interact with the turf in your favor, it can be nightmarish around the greens. When hitting them try a variety of short game shots with different face angles etc. with the different grinds to see which one works best for what you need.”
  • Hawkeye77: “Wedge fitting I had was extremely beneficial when I got my SM6s a few years ago. Mostly for working with the different grinds and how they interacted with my swing and on different shots and having an eye on my swing to help with the process and evaluate the results. My ideas of what grinds were right for me based on researching on Titleist, etc. just were not correct in 2/3 of the wedges I ended up with as far as the grinds were concerned. Good to have an experienced fitter available to answer questions, control variables, etc.”
  • cgasucks: “The better you get at this game, the more important wedges are.”

Entire Thread: “The importance of wedge fitting”

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