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2019 TaylorMade P790Ti Irons: Pure Premium Power

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Born from the quest to make great, greater, the 2019 TaylorMade P790Ti Titanium Irons go way beyond the original P790 in both materials and pushing the limits of speed. 2019 Taylormade titanium irons been the buzz on the street. By pairing some of the lightest and strongest materials with some of the most mass dense in one club, the engineers at TaylorMade have created a premium iron for the player looking for premium performance.

The body of the P790-Ti is iron is cast from 911 titanium—this is an important note because when you compare (in general terms) Ti vs. steel, their mass properties are vastly different.

Let’s do some science!

Stainless steel comes in around 8 g/cm3, Whereas titanium is 4.5 g/cm3. That makes steel 43 percent heavier than its titanium counterpart, which means the P790Ti is saving a TON of weight in its construction by using it as the whole body of the head including the face, but we’ll get to that in a minute.

If you think about a solid steel clubhead played at 37″ (usually a 7-iron), the head weight will be around 268g. If you use the above math, then the same clubhead made from titanium would only weigh 153g (rounded up). So how do we get that mass back to where it needs to be without making the head enormous? Tungsten: one of the most (stable) mass dense metals around.

The TaylorMade P-790Ti iron has up to 119g of tungsten in each clubhead to push the limits of forgiveness and drive the center of gravity as far back and as low as possible—that’s why the titanium has been placed on the exterior of the club’s frame.

So now to that face.

Supported by TaylorMade’s SpeedFoam, the machined titanium face is thin to produce maximum ball speed. By machining it, rather than casting, TaylorMade can precisely control the dimensions to save every last bit of weight.

With a face this fast and a CG going so far back, Chris Berman would have to actually take a breath when telling you about it.

You need stronger lofts—it’s physics and function rather than playing a numbers game. Without the stronger lofts, each iron wouldn’t hit the proper window for its trajectory. The other part of this that is often overlooked is the target market for these styles of irons—players NOT at the top end of clubhead speed; players wanting a higher flight and longer distances. Yeah, it’s fun to watch tour players mash 7-irons 220 yards for the cameras—I wish I could do that—but that’s not who these clubs are designed for.

This leads us to the rest of the package.

Obviously, the term “stock” is now a loose reference to a suggested final build based on player testing, but this sheds light on the what TaylorMade wants to accomplish with these irons. The paired shafts are, for steel, the new Nippon NS Pro 950 GH Neo (an update to their extremely popular 950 GH). For graphite, the shaft of choice is the Mitsubishi MMT available in varies weight options—see below.

 

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Ryan Barath is part of the Digital Content Creation Team for GolfWRX. He hosts the "On Spec" Podcast on the GolfWRX Radio Network which focuses on discussing everything golf, including gear, technology, fitting, and course architecture. He is a club-fitter & master club builder with more than 17 years of experience working with golfers of all skill levels, including PGA Tour players. He is the former Build Shop Manager & Social Media Coordinator for Modern Golf. He now works independently from his home shop and is a member of advisory panels to a select number of golf equipment manufacturers. You can find Ryan on Twitter and Instagram where he's always willing to chat golf, and share his passion for club building, course architecture and wedge grinding.

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  1. Aaron

    Aug 13, 2019 at 7:45 am

    4.5g to 8g is not 43% heavier.

    It’s 43% lighter

  2. the truth

    Aug 13, 2019 at 6:29 am

    $400 per club AND you need more wedges?

  3. Andy

    Aug 13, 2019 at 5:26 am

    The AW has finally broken through 50 degrees and 43.5 degree PW. Wow.

  4. Pillow Talk

    Aug 13, 2019 at 4:07 am

    $2700? That’s all? 😀

  5. Moses

    Aug 12, 2019 at 10:30 pm

    Wow I can probably hit the 9 iron 150 yards.

  6. Eric

    Aug 12, 2019 at 7:52 pm

    I’d like to see the P790Ti UDI, with the same aesthetics and 14-17* of loft. Looks so much better than the GAPR in my opinion. Just change where the tungsten is placed to get High/Mid/Lo equivalent of GAPR.

  7. Stewart

    Aug 12, 2019 at 5:16 pm

    These look great but I’m not likely to buy at this price.

    I’ve no issue with companies having a product at this level.

  8. KC

    Aug 12, 2019 at 5:00 pm

    $2700 for a 7 club set of irons. Go home Taylormade…you’re drunk.

  9. Clay

    Aug 12, 2019 at 4:47 pm

    5.5 degree gaps in the short irons? yikes

  10. Travisty

    Aug 12, 2019 at 4:17 pm

    Pure Premium Pricing—fixed that for you

  11. jason

    Aug 12, 2019 at 12:30 pm

    look how the masacred my boy.

  12. Bushwood Caddie

    Aug 12, 2019 at 11:30 am

    Running out of ideas to have a different type of club for every release? Their big tech is ICT (inverted cone technology) which they had back several years ago. Nice irons, but not at that price!

  13. dat

    Aug 12, 2019 at 10:37 am

    NO. Please for the love of Golf stop with these joker clubs.

  14. Ted

    Aug 12, 2019 at 9:24 am

    Ugly

  15. JP

    Aug 12, 2019 at 9:08 am

    And the price? A gazillion dollars a set?
    .
    And the face is cast THEN machined. Do t let the wording confuse. It’s cast.

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Dustin Johnson WITB 2020

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Driver: TaylorMade SIM (10.5 @ 10 degrees, D4 swing weight)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Black 6 X (tipped 1 inch, 45.75 inches)

Fairway wood: TaylorMade SIM Max (15 degrees)
Shaft: Aldila RIP Alpha 90 X

Hybrid: TaylorMade SIM Max Rescue (22 @ 19 degrees)
Shaft: Project X HZRDUS Black 105 X

Irons: TaylorMade P790 (3), TaylorMade P730 DJ Proto (4-PW)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 (soft stepped)

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 (52-09, 60-10 @ 62 degrees)
Shafts: KBS Tour Custom Black 120 S

Putter: TaylorMade Spider Tour Mini
Grip: SuperStroke Traxion Pistol GT 1.0

Ball: TaylorMade TP5

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet 58R (1 wrap 2-way tape + 2 wraps left hand, 3 right hand)

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Top 10 clubs of 2003—inspired by Adam Scott’s Titleist 680 irons

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As has been well documented, Adam Scott recently won the Genesis Invitational with a set of Titleist 680 blade irons, a design that was originally released in 2003. One of the great benefits of being one of the best players in the world is you don’t need to search eBay to find your preferred set of 17-year-old irons. Titleist has been stocking sets for Mr. Scott—even to the point of doing a limited production run in 2018 where they then released 400 sets for sale to the general public.

A lot of time has passed since 2003, and considering the classic nature of Scott’s Titleist 680, I figured now was a good time to look back at some other iconic clubs released around the same time.

Ping G2 driver

This was Ping’s first 460cc driver with a full shift into titanium head design. The previous Si3 models still utilized the TPU adjustable hosel, and this was considered a big step forward for the Phoenix-based OEM. The driver was a big hit both on tour and at retail—as was the rest of the G2 line that included irons.

TaylorMade RAC LT (first gen) irons

The RAC LTs helped position TaylorMade back among the leaders in the better players iron category. The entire RAC (Relative Amplitude Coefficient) line was built around creating great feeling products that also provided the right amount of forgiveness for the target player. It also included an over-sized iron too. The RAC LT went on to have a second-generation version, but the original LTs are worthy of “classic” status.

TaylorMade R580 XD driver

Honestly, how could we not mention the TaylorMade R580 XD driver? TM took some of the most popular drivers in golf, the R500 series and added extra distance (XD). OK, that might be an oversimplification of what the XD series offered, but with improved shape, increased ball speed outside of the sweet spot, and lower spin, it’s no wonder you can still find these drivers in the bags of golfers at courses and driving ranges everywhere.

Titleist 680MB irons

The great thing about blades is that beyond changing sole designs and shifting the center of gravity, the basic design for a one-piece forged head hasn’t changed that much. For Adam Scott, the 680s are the perfect blend of compact shape, higher CG, and sole profile.

Titleist 983K, E drivers

If you were a “Titleist player,” you had one of these drivers! As one of the last companies to move into the 460cc category, the 983s offered a classic pear shape in a smaller profile. It was so good and so popular, it was considered the benchmark for Titleist drivers for close to the next decade.

Cleveland Launcher 330 driver

It wasn’t that long ago that OEMs were just trying to push driver head size over 300cc, and Cleveland’s first big entry into the category was the Launcher Titanium 330 driver. It didn’t live a long life, but the Launcher 330 was the grandaddy to the Launcher 400, 460, and eventually, the Launcher COMP, which is another club on this list that many golfers will still have fond memories about.

Mizuno MP 33 irons

Although released in the fall of 2002, the Mizuno MP 33 still makes the list because of its staying power. Much like the Titleist 680, this curved muscle blade was a favorite to many tour players, including future world No. 1 Luke Donald. The MP 33 stayed in Mizuno’s lineup for more than four years and was still available for custom orders years after that. Unfortunately, if you are looking for a set now you are going to have to go the used route.

Callaway X-16 irons

The Steelhead X-16 was a big hit at retail for Callaway. It offered greater forgiveness than the previous X-14’s but had a more compact shape with a wider topline to inspire confidence. They featured Callaway’s “Notch” weighting system that moved more mass to the perimeter of the head for higher MOI and improved feel. There was a reduced offset pro series version of the iron, but the X-16 was the one more players gravitated towards. This is another game improvement club for that era that can still be found in a lot of golf bags.

Ben Hogan CFT irons

The Hogan CFTs were at the forefront of multi-material iron technology in 2003. CFT stood for Compression Forged Titanium and allowed engineers to push more mass to the perimeter of the head to boost MOI by using a thin titanium face insert. They had what would be considered stronger lofts at the time sounded really powerful thanks to the thin face insert. If you are looking for a value set of used irons, this is still a great place to start.

King Cobra SZ driver

In 2003, Rickie Fowler was only 15 years old and Cobra was still living under the Acushnet umbrella as Titleist’s game improvement little brother. The Cobra SZ (Sweet Zone, NOT 2020 Speed Zone) was offered in a couple of head sizes to appeal to different players. The thing I will always remember about the original King Cobra SZ is that it came in an offset version to help golfers who generally slice the ball—a design trait that we still see around today.

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Today from the Forums: “The importance of wedge fitting”

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Today from the Forums we delve into a subject dedicated to wedge fitting. Liquid_A_45 wants to know if wedge fitting is as essential for golfers as iron fitting, and our members weigh into the discussion saying why they feel it is just as imperative.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Z1ggy16: “Super important if you’re a serious golfer. Even better if you can get fit outdoors on real grass and even go into a bunker.”
  • ThunderBuzzworth: “The biggest part of wedge fitting is yardage gapping and sole grinds. If you have a grind that doesn’t interact with the turf in your favor, it can be nightmarish around the greens. When hitting them try a variety of short game shots with different face angles etc. with the different grinds to see which one works best for what you need.”
  • Hawkeye77: “Wedge fitting I had was extremely beneficial when I got my SM6s a few years ago. Mostly for working with the different grinds and how they interacted with my swing and on different shots and having an eye on my swing to help with the process and evaluate the results. My ideas of what grinds were right for me based on researching on Titleist, etc. just were not correct in 2/3 of the wedges I ended up with as far as the grinds were concerned. Good to have an experienced fitter available to answer questions, control variables, etc.”
  • cgasucks: “The better you get at this game, the more important wedges are.”

Entire Thread: “The importance of wedge fitting”

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