Equipment
Forum Thread of the Day: “Most overrated/underrated equipment in golf”
Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from orangeology who asks fellow members to share what they feel are the most underrated and overrated pieces of equipment currently in the sport. Our members divulge, with word one representing overrated, and word two underrated.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire thread and have your say at the link below.
- cliffhanger: “Forgiveness / Having high lofted wedges.
- Christen_The_Sloop: “Practice / Play. Bridgestone golf equipment – that stuff is underrated
- Bubb: “Scotty Cameron putters / Titleist TS2 drivers and fairway woods.
- smithy23: “Major OEMs / Srixon Irons”
- Kevinz: “Most underrated is the motorised caddies, saves at least two shots per round. Most overrated is the driver shaft, not a whole lot of difference distance wise.”
Entire Thread: “Most overrated/underrated equipment in golf”
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- Max Homa what’s in the bag accurate as of the Masters.
Driver: Titleist TSR3 (9 degrees, D1 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus TR Black 6 X
3-wood: Titleist TSR2+ (14.5 degrees, A1 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei 1K Red 80 TX
5-wood: Titleist TSR2 (21 degrees @19.25, D1 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 9 TX
Irons: Titleist T100S (4), Titleist T100 (5), Titleist 620 (6-9)
Shafts: KBS $ Taper 130 (4-9)
Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM10 (46-10F, 50-12F, 56-14F), WedgeWorks (60)
Shafts: KBS $ Taper 130 (46) KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 135 X (50, 56), KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 125 X (60)
Putter: Scotty Cameron T-5.5 Proto
Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Cord
Ball: Titleist Pro V1
More photos of Max Homa’s WITB in the forums.
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Driver: Krank Formula Fire Pro (6 degrees)
Shaft: Project X HZRDUS T1100 75g 6.5
Mini driver: TaylorMade BRNR Mini Driver (11.5 degrees @10)
Shaft: Project X HZRDUS T1100 75g 6.5
- Unconfirmed. We are working to gather details.
5-wood: Krank Formula Fire
- Unconfirmed. We are working to gather details.
Irons: Avoda Prototype (5-PW)
Shafts: LA Golf Prototype
Wedges: Ping Glide 4.0 (46-12S @45, 50-12S, 56, 60)
Shafts: LA Golf Prototype
Putter: SIK Pro C-Series Armlock/LA Golf Proto
Shaft: LA Golf C2L-180
Grip: JumboMax JumboFlat 17
Grips: JumboMax UltraLight XL
Ball: Titleist Pro V1x Left Dash
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Accra Golf shafts have long been synonymous with fitting, and the new GX line of driver, fairway, and hybrid shafts continues that legacy.
Since 2004, Accra has been making high-end performance golf shafts that use the latest in materials and design philosophy. Their group of around 350 fitters are some of the best and most highly ranked in the world. While you might see other brands on professional tours more often, there are plenty of touring pros using Accra products and winning.
Accra’s new GX line of shafts is designed to offer a consistent and accurate shaft to a wide range of players. The GX line consists of 3 different shafts in driver, fairway, and hybrid designs.
The Accra GX shafts are designed for fitters to dial in golfers to the perfect shaft for their swing. Accra included a ton of technology into the GX line including their S3 profiling, DyMatch, and Constant Flex technology. DyMatch has been Accra’s quest to ensure that all shafts in a family feel and perform similar from driver to hybrid or iron shaft. Typically shafts get stiffer as they go up in weight, but Accra’s Constant Flex keeps the flex of the shafts consistent so fitters and golfers can dial in the weight that the golfer need without have to work around a stiffer or softer flex. Accra worked with Cool Clubs to build out its S3 Shaft Profiling system that not only allows a quick and easy EI profile of any shaft, it helps with quality control to ensure shafts come out of production exactly as they were designed.
Accra GX Red 300 Series
GX Red is lowest launching and spinning option in the GX line. Driver shafts have fewer options with just the 360 and 370 models that come in at 63 and 71 grams. The GX Red is made for faster swinging, or stronger, players who require a stiff (M4) or x-stiff (M5) shaft for their swing. Fairway and hybrid models are also on the higher weight side with the fairway clocking in at 80g and 90g for the hybrid. Accra designed this series with one of the stiffest tip sections of any Accra shaft in the current line, and while it is built to control launch and spin, the Red 300 Series will still offer that smooth feel.
Accra GX Green 100 Series
If your swing usually works best with mid-launch and spin, then the GX Green 200 series might be the right shaft for you. Offered in more weight and flex options, you can get a GX Green in 52 grams and all the way up to 70 grams in regular, stiff, and x-stiff flexes. GX Green will give the player a smooth feel and transition from the handle down to the tip section while still providing great stability and consistency. Accra also focused on the energy transfer of this shaft, and golfers can see some increased ball speed compared to other shafts.
Accra GX Blue 200 Series
While the GX Blue 100 Series is the highest launching and spinning option in the GX lineup, it will still give golfers the control and consistency they need. Starting off at 40g, the GX Blue series puts an emphasis on lighter weight to allow players to swing the club faster, promoting more distance. Accra touts the stability of the GX 140 Blue driver shaft by stating that some long driver competitors have put it in play to try and gain every MPH they can. Matching fairway and hybrid shafts are both on the lighter side at around 60g for the fairway and 65g for the hybrid depending on the flex.
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Tully
Jul 23, 2019 at 10:14 pm
Overrated Tiger Woods
Overrated Taylor Made
Underrated – Everything else…
Hank Haney
Jul 24, 2019 at 2:21 pm
Your ignorance is overwhelming.
s
Jul 13, 2019 at 5:52 pm
Over – $300+ shafts
Under – MP-37
Alfredo Smith
Jul 10, 2019 at 4:42 pm
UnderRated, PXG
OverRated PXG criticism and all the hate, LOL
kevin moran
Jul 15, 2019 at 9:32 pm
Very True. Spot on. Expensive? Yep. Excellent? Yep. I cannot afford a Ferrari, but I can appreciate the excellence of the vehicle. I don’t hate the company for making a premium product.
N D Boondocks
Jul 8, 2019 at 2:38 pm
Most over-rated – how far guys claim they can hit their driver
Most under-rated – how far most guys claim the other guy hits his driver
Yomomma
Jul 5, 2019 at 9:18 am
Vokey/the umbrella.
Eric Grafton
Jul 4, 2019 at 7:28 am
Overrated, most instructors. They all “think” they know what they’re doing..but only teach what worked for THEM at ONE moment in time. Go to 10 different instructors, and you’ll get 9 different ways of doing the same thing. They don’t take into consideration all physical limitations and physical differences of everyone they’re teaching.
These instructors also include those “fitting” someone into a $500 driver. PLEASE!!….they are doing this sport and industry a disservice. Nothing is funnier than watching a guy in our league FINALLY get a hold of one at 280+, (with his $500 driver) and proceed to duff the next shot, or turn a great drive into a triple bogie because he doesn’t know how to USE HIS WEDGE or PUTT.
All they do by selling that driver is ultimately frustrate people into not wanting to play and spend more on golf, because that driver didn’t turn them into a 9 from playing off a 25.
d
Jul 8, 2019 at 12:52 pm
nobody forces anyone to buy anything…..fitting is nothing more than intelligently reducing the possibilities while testing to what you hit best….you can fit yourself if you had more time and all the equipment possibilities laying around. but you dont…
if someone wants to hit 280 with their one good drive instead of 250 then so be it….
i think fitting on irons as or more important than driver…
geohogan
Jul 1, 2019 at 10:59 am
Alignment sticks so overrated.
We stand on our legs…legs are attached to the heels of our feet, so why
do golf instructors lay alignment stick across our toes?
Our alignment is to the quadrant of the ball we intend to impact, not the target line. So why do golf instructors have alignment sticks along target line
as if we intend to impact the back of the ball. its no wonder 95 of golfers slice the ball.
We sweep the inside quadrant of the ball with the heel of the clubface. The design of the golf club ensures the clubface squares to the ball.
Never will happen as long as we misuse alignment sticks
Alex
Jun 30, 2019 at 12:23 pm
I think pure shafts make a ton of sense. At very least it gives you less to worry about/ be upset about when you aren’t hitting it well.
geohogan
Jul 1, 2019 at 11:08 am
Golf shafts, off the shelf are worth about $10.
Imperfect is an understatement. Very overrated.
Pureing a cheap shaft is like, “lipstick on a pig”.
There are shafts that are mostly perfectly round and symmetrical due to
the manufacturing process. eg Nunchuk Xi at $50
Dan
Jun 30, 2019 at 4:04 am
Overrated-PXG, Jumbo Maxx grips, anything that promises distance for seniors and ladies, low compression balls for everyone, chippers, pro-v 1’s price, and most of all puring shafts. No real players do it. Look at all the pro’s , all the shaft logos are down in the same spot, not 1 pured. Huge scam to add cost. You trust the $200+ shafts preformance but not how they want it installed? Plus the shaft doesn’t flex in a straight line anyway. It goes toe up and back to toe down and through. Most amateurs can’t make the same swing twice anyway and the ones that can don’t pure them. If you adjust the driver weighting it affects the way the cluhead releases which if it worked you’d need the shaft repured after every adjustment. Totall BS scam.
James Awad
Jun 29, 2019 at 6:59 pm
Titleist & Cameron. Most over rated everything
Underrated? FOURTEEN, Brigestone irons, Srixon irons, Tour Edge proline Wilson proline & Mizuno metal woods – even the hardcore Miz guys won’t even demon them ‘gotta have Titleist driver’????????????
John
Jun 29, 2019 at 5:19 pm
See More putters are so underrated. Such quality !!!
Srixon Irons… or is the word out now?
2putttom
Aug 5, 2019 at 12:19 pm
yep, SRIXON quality words out.
joro
Jun 29, 2019 at 4:53 pm
Under rated, Wilson Golf, quality and lower cost. Over rated, all those that have to spend Millions to convince us that their product is the best and in many cases it is nothing but Bull+++T. And included in the Over Rated krap is those self promoting “GURU Teachers. Does the teacher make the player or does the player make the teacher.
Equipment and teachers are both over rated.
THETadersalad
Jun 29, 2019 at 8:08 am
Over rated – variable length irons
under rated – single length irons
T
Jun 29, 2019 at 2:27 am
460 cc drivers. Complexly under rated and misunderstood.
Who wants to go back to 150cc Persimmons?
Rich
Jun 28, 2019 at 10:04 pm
Overrated? Any irons that promise more distance. That’s jive. They offer more distance by strengthening lofts, making the shafts longer, and keeping the number the same. You don’t want more distance. You want predictable distance and precise gapping.
Any woods that promise anything other than more accuracy. Woods are already limited in length, size, MOI and COR. You simply cannot make a wood hit it farther. But you CAN continue to use exotic materials to move weight out to the perimeter to make them more forgiving, and you CAN make them wonderfully adjustable so they can be fit with precision.
PXG? Maybe. Forget price; are they better clubs? If so, then “overrated” isn’t the right adjective. They may not be worth the price, but if they’re really better, they’re not overrated. But are they really better? If not, they’re overrated.
Blades. Sorry, but those are about ego, not performance. They don’t perform better. But people who play this game for a living can it the sweet spot so precisely that perimeter weighting wouldn’t help them anyway. But for the vast majority of golfers, they’re a detriment to their games.
Anything that creates a distinction without a different. The TM SLDR driver, for example. Or the Twist Face–does it really make a difference?
I hit a driver about 245 carry. I carry an 8-iron about 160. If you offer me more distance than that, I’ll pass. (It probably comes from tricks with trade-offs anyway.) But if you offer me more accurate clubs–even if they’re shorter–I’m listening.
geohogan
Jul 4, 2019 at 7:48 am
@ Rich
Heavier clubheads, with mass further from centerline of the shaft(flywheel)
will increase forces that cause droop, kick and twisting. These are all causes of less consistency and loss of accuracy.
ie larger clubheads are often over rated as more accurate, if and when paired with cheap off the shelf golf shafts, that cannot withstand increased forces causing droop, kick and twisting.
Simms
Jul 12, 2019 at 2:47 am
Do think for one minute a major OEM is going to spend up words of $300,000 to develop a driver head and then put it on a shaft it will not work with, even if the shaft cost $10 it will work with the driver head….sure the highest level player is looking at inches and a high end shaft maybe be 5 yards longer of 3% more on line, but by far the average player maybe a 10 or more is going to be fine with tne OEM standard shaft.
JC
Jul 4, 2019 at 7:55 am
You should be carrying your driver 280+ if you carry 8 iron 160.
Michael Constantine
Jul 6, 2019 at 8:43 am
I carry my driver 275 plus and my 8 iron 155 at most. I don’t think driver and iron swings equate in some amateurs such as myself. I’m a fairly strong guy who played baseball all my life. Swinging a driver is like riding a bike for me. Swinging anything less than a 6 iron feels awkward to me and I struggle the further I go down the line from 8-Lob on full shots. So to say if you carry an 8 iron 160 means you carry a driver 280 isn’t always the case.
Bob Johnson
Jul 8, 2019 at 3:58 pm
JC – I could not agree more…
Rich
Jul 8, 2019 at 6:00 pm
I might be conservative with the driver carry estimate. But I definitely don’t carry it 280.
RP
Jul 9, 2019 at 4:44 pm
Why? Do you know his driver and iron specs?
RGL
Jul 25, 2019 at 1:02 am
RP….It points to a lack of efficiency with the driver. A lot of people struggle with that…myself included but am working on it. Typically with amateurs the gapping narrows and efficiency drops as you move to your long irons and woods. Driver carry average for me is 250 which is up from 235. My driver was only about 10yds longer than my 3 wood at that time. 3 wood carry is at 235 now and 8 iron carry is stable at 150. Ideal goal for me is 265-270 carry with a driver. Confident I’ll be there by end of the year as I usually get 2 or 3 out there at that distance in a round now.
Madeline Morgan
Jun 28, 2019 at 8:47 pm
Scotty Cameron/Evnroll
Distance Compression Dude
Jun 28, 2019 at 12:48 pm
GX7 Hot Metal, Vixa V12, Square Strike Wedge, C3i Wedge, Hammer Driver
All overrated and hot garbage.
MIKE
Jul 9, 2019 at 3:12 pm
You have to yell when you hit the Hammer driver or else it doesn’t perform well. Just like the infomercial. LOL
dj
Jun 28, 2019 at 11:49 am
Pured shafts! Overrated!
James Awad
Jun 29, 2019 at 6:54 pm
No. Proven a thousand times on Trackman & high speed HD video at our place. We don’t build any high end irons or install a driver shaft without doing it. It absolutely works
Dan
Jul 2, 2019 at 9:43 pm
I’ve heard Puring is a must and it’s complete BS. I understand each shaft has a spine and the concept makes perfect sense but people who know a lot more than me don’t think it matters.
Dan W
Jul 25, 2019 at 3:44 am
Look up how high end graphite shafts are made. They don’t have spines. The layers are overlapping. And btw spining shafts find a strong and weak side of the shaft. Either way puring shaft is total BS. I don’t care what someone proves the preformance says otherwise.
David Lehmann
Jun 28, 2019 at 11:21 am
PXG!! PXG!!! PXG!!!
David Lehmann
Jun 28, 2019 at 11:22 am
Sorry Overrated!
David Lehmann
Jun 28, 2019 at 2:20 pm
And Way overpriced!!
2putttom
Aug 5, 2019 at 12:20 pm
same sales philosophy as Cameron