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Forum Thread of the Day: “If you are a 10 handicap with declining length, what clubs do you buy?”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from tsecor – a 10 handicapper who has noticed in the past couple of years that he has begun to lose some distance. Our members give their views on how tsecor can solve this issue, ranging from new club suggestions to a possible shaft change.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • agolf1: “I’d play Ping G410 like irons. However, you could also try lighter shafts in the more players’ clubs if your strike is still pretty good. Regardless, at some point, a low lofted iron may need to go if the speed isn’t there.”
  • Lepatrique: “Definitely go get fitted because swing tendencies (speed, attack angle, spin rate, etc.) will result in different answers. I carry a 6ir around 190-195 and based on my fitting (3 weeks ago) I found the Srixons – Both the 785 and z forged – went much longer than anything else I hit (holding shaft constant). They spun less and generated a lot of ball speed. 10-15 yards more distance on 6ir. Others – Mizuno 919 tour, mp18, Miura mc501, Apex pro, taylormade 730 – were all right in my typical distance. I passed on the srixons because they actually didn’t spin enough.”
  • 2putttom: “There’s not much help for getting older and losing distance, however, after struggling for two seasons I bagged Srixon 7 series and regained what yardage I had lost over the last five years.”
  • morgan18/19: “You are on the right track with a shaft change, and/or optimization. Keep everything else (flex pattern, swing weight, length, etc.) the same, but drop 10-15 grams from the shafts in your long irons. Good chance you will gain some carry distance, and hit better shots at the end of a round.”

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  4. kev

    Jun 18, 2019 at 10:09 pm

    i wouldn’t buy clubs. the best way to regain whatever distance you had most likely relates to fitness and flexibility. i lost lots of distance because i’ve gotten overweight by 25 pounds. with that weight gain i lost lots of flexibility. i’ve gone on a exercise program doing medium weights strengthening, stretching, swimming…..i’ve gotten few of the distance i lost back. the other lost yardages lost is from not enough shaft lean. i’ve got in a rut of going up on the ball. once i fix that i should be back to default mode.

  5. Handicapped Handicap

    Jun 16, 2019 at 11:31 pm

    Grab a longer club and when someone asks what you hit always reply with “sand wedge”

  6. Rich

    Jun 9, 2019 at 10:16 pm

    You play the clubs your clubfitter fits you for, based on your personal swing characteristics.

  7. that way

    Jun 9, 2019 at 3:33 pm

    Go get custom fit and custom built… Duh.

  8. Jim

    Jun 9, 2019 at 10:07 am

    Most major club producers are offering distance irons. I suggest picking the heads you like the looks of then demoing those heads with both steel and graphite shafts to see which irons perform the best. An y good club fitter should be able to let you do this, and if you buy the clubs, the fitting is free. Some of these distance irons are Callaway RogueX, Titleist AP3, Ping G700, etc.

  9. SoonerSlim

    Jun 9, 2019 at 9:57 am

    Most of the major club manufacturers are producing a club that is designed with lower lofts for greater distance. For example, Callaway has the Rogue X, Titlelist the AP3, and Ping the G700s. I suggest two things for buying new clubs: First, if you’re like me, pick the club heads you like the looks of, then demo all of them to see which gives you the best performance. Try to demo them with both steel and graphite shafts. You can usually do this with an accomplished fitter, and it you buy the clubs, then the fitting is free.

  10. Matthew Hill

    Jun 9, 2019 at 8:38 am

    Doesn’t anyone realize today’s lofts on clubs are average 2 clubs stronger. pw were always 48 degrees now callaway etc are 41 degrees. Duh! anyone should should hit today’s club longer. Simple reason to upgrade.

  11. Howard Clark

    Jun 9, 2019 at 8:01 am

    Move up to the correct tee so the height you’re generating with your approach matches what the architect intended when he built the hole. Or continue trying to run a 4 iron onto an elevated green that calls for an 8 iron approach. But as a fellow competitor says, “But my ego!!” He used to be a 1. My answer is, “Doesn’t your ego come into play when you shoot 82???”

  12. Jim Lynch

    Jun 9, 2019 at 6:35 am

    I grabbed back 8-10 yards per club and picked up slightly higher trajectory by swapping out my KBS shafts for Aerotech Steelfiber 110’s in my Ping S55’s. Plus, I can beat more balls and not have sore wrists anymore. Yeah, for me it’s probably time for an upgraded head, too, like i210, i500 or Apex Pro but I don’t think you have to overhaul yourself to a game improvement head just yet.

  13. DC

    Jun 8, 2019 at 11:47 pm

    The Srixon players are full of it. 10 handicap and losing distance and you use a players club to gain distance? What am I missing other than your lies? Who vets these BS answers? Get a softer shorter shaft like your useless dong and slice it into the high grass circle jerk where your other “gamers” are making facial shots.

  14. Jack Nash

    Jun 8, 2019 at 8:08 pm

    If you’re a 10 & rising you don’t buy Tour irons. Something like JPX Hot Metal is more like it. If you’re losing distance these are your best bets.

    • James Pickett

      Jun 26, 2019 at 10:29 pm

      I bought a 4-pw set of jpx 900 hot metals with xp95 stiff soft stepped 2x. I carry the 8 iron 150. I mix in the 9,pw,gw in forged with xp105 for windy days. I carry the 4 iron around 195-200 and it’s just stupid how long these clubs are and I’m 50 years old. Technology in shafts and club heads are impressive compared to 10 years ago. The price is high as well though. You’re comment nailed it.

  15. Ben

    Jun 8, 2019 at 7:47 pm

    I switched to hybrids with graphite shafts. I play a 2 through 6 hybrid. They are much easier to hit both from the fairway and in the rough. They seem to get plenty of carry, high launch and stop on the greens. I don’t care what the number is on the club just if it gets there or not. I am 70 years old and this really works of me. I play PXG hybrids which were a little costly (although I got them through the PXG for Heros program). I am a 8 handicap and play a course that is 6800 yards long. Give them a try. I think you’ll be surprised. Good luck

  16. Bob Jones

    Jun 8, 2019 at 5:39 pm

    I bought a rocket-propelled driver.

  17. Bill

    Jun 8, 2019 at 4:45 pm

    Don’t be too proud to move up to the next tee. No shame in it.

    • Peter McGill

      Jun 8, 2019 at 8:03 pm

      They let you do that in the comp? Super!

  18. Steve

    Jun 8, 2019 at 7:12 am

    I gained 20 yds from callaway rogue x’s and improved distribution

  19. Q

    Jun 7, 2019 at 3:39 pm

    Hit the gym, get a trainer, get stronger, it’s never too late
    Stretch more
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A Deep Dive: The equipment timeline of David Duval, 1993-2001

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Like Tiger, David Toms, and Fred Couples there are certain players that I have been obsessed with for years. If you go to my Instagram, you can see it in plain sight. When it comes to DD it was more than the what, it was the why, the how that sparked my curiosity. Let’s face it, in 2000 with the Mossimo gear, Oakley shades, jacked-up physique, and on Titleist staff, was there ever a cooler looking player?

No. There wasn’t or isn’t.

That’s where my interest in Larry Bobka came about. I saw David and Larry walking the fairways of Sahalee at the ’98 PGA Championship.

At the time, I was already knee-deep in David Duval fandom but that experience took me over the top. Bobka had a handful of clubs in his hands and would pass DD a 970 3-wood, Duval would give it a rip and the two would discuss while walking down the fairway. Of all my time watching live golf, I have never been so awestruck.

This is an homage to David’s equipment during his prime/healthy years on the PGA Tour. From his early days with Mizuno, into the Titleist days, and finally Nike.

1993-1995 Mizuno

*This was an interesting time for Duval from an equipment standpoint. The pattern of mixing sets to put together his bag began and it was the time he transitioned from persimmon (Wood Bros driver) into metal woods. It was also the beginning of his long relationship with Scotty Cameron, a relationship that still stands today.

What was in the bag

Driver: TaylorMade Tour Burner 8.5 w/ Dynamic Gold X100 (*he also played with the Bubble XHKP Prototype)

3-wood

King Cobra @14 w/ Dynamic Gold X100

TaylorMade Tour Issue Spoon @13  w/ Dynamic Gold X100

Irons

1993: (1) Ping Eye2, (3-PW) Mizuno Pro TN-87 with Dynamic Gold X100

1994: (1) Ping Eye2, (3-PW) Mizuno Pro TN-87 with Dynamic Gold X100

1995: (2,3) Mizuno TC-29, (4-PW) Mizuno TN-87 with Dynamic Gold X100

Wedges: Mizuno Pro (53, 58) with Dynamic Gold X100

Putter: Scotty Cameron Classic Newport (35 inches, 71 lie, 4 degrees of loft)

Ball: Titleist Tour Balata 100

Glove: Mizuno Pro

1996-2000 Titleist

The beginning of the Titleist years started off quietly. There wasn’t any new product launched and David wasn’t quite the star he would become 12-18 months later. However, it gave Titleist the opportunity to get to know DD and his overall preferences, which aren’t dramatic but certainly unique. He didn’t win in 1996 but did qualify for the Presidents Cup Team and finished that event off at 4-0. So the buzz was going in the right direction and his peers certainly took notice.

It was 1997 that things took off on all fronts and it was the year that Titleist made David Duval the face of the DCI brand and with that decision spawned the greatest cast players cavity ever: the 962B—and also equipped David Duval to go on a 3-year run that was surpassed by only Tiger Woods.

Hence the deep dive article I wrote up earlier this month

What was in the bag

Driver

1996

TaylorMade Bubble Tour 8.5 w/ Bubble XHKP Prototype

1997

TaylorMade Bubble Tour 8.5 w/ Bubble XHKP Prototype

King Cobra Deep Face 9 w/ Dynamic Gold X100

Callaway Warbird Great Big Bertha 6.5 w/ Dynamic Gold X100, True Temper EI70 Tour X

Titleist 975D 6.5 (no line heavier head weight) w/ Fujikura Prototype X

1998

Callaway Warbird Great Big Bertha 6.5 w/ True Temper EI70 Tour X

Titleist 975D 6.5 (no line heavier head weight) w/ True Temper EI70 Tour X

1999: Titleist 975D 6.5 (no line heavier head weight) @ 7.5 w/ True Temper EI70 Tour X

2000: Titleist 975D 7.5 (no line heavier head weight) w/ True Temper EI70 Tour X

3-wood

1996

King Cobra @14 w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold X100

1997 

King Cobra @14 w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold X100

1998

Callaway S2H2 (1 Dot) @14 w/ Fujikura Vista Pro 90X


Callaway Steelhead 3+ @13 w/ RCH 90 Pro Series Strong

Titleist 970 (Dark Grey Head) @13 w/ True Temper EI70 Tour X (only tested this one)

1999

Callaway S2H2 (1 Dot) @14 w/ Fujikura Vista Pro 90X

Cobra Gravity Back 14.5T w/ True Temper EI70 Tour X

Irons

1996

(2-PW) Titleist DD Blank Prototype w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold X100 (w/sensicore)

(2-PW) Titleist DCI Black “B” w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold X100 (w/sensicore)

*This prototype set was a blank set of the DCI Black “B” but with sole modifications. 

1997, 1998, 1999, 2000: (2,3) Titleist DCI Black (4-PW) Titleist DCI 962B w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold X100 (with sensicore)

*David liked the original prototype version of DG Sensicore X100 that had weight removed from the center of shaft to create better feel and a slightly higher trajectory

24 Feb 2000: David Duval watches the ball after hitting it during the World Match-Play Championships at the La Costa Resort & Spa in Carlsbad, California. Mandatory Credit: Harry How /Allsport

Wedges

1996: (52 @53, 58) Mizuno Pro, (56 @57) Cleveland 588 RTG w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold S400

1997: (53) Cobra “Trusty Rusty”, (57 @58) Cleveland 588 RTG, (58) Titleist Bobka Grind, (57 @58) Cobra Trusty Rusty w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold S400

1998: (53) Cobra “Trusty Rusty”, (57 @58) Cleveland 588 RTGw/ True Temper Dynamic Gold S400

1999: (53) Cobra “Trusty Rusty”, (57 @58) Cleveland 588 RTG w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold S400

2000: (53) Cobra “Trusty Rusty”, (57 @58) Cleveland 588 “Gun Metal” w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold S400

PUTTER

1996: Scotty Cameron Classic Newport 1 35 Inches, 71 Lie, 4 Degrees of Loft, Scotty Cameron Long Slant Neck Laguna Custom (double welded neck)

1997: Odyssey Dual Force Rossie 2, Scotty Cameron Pro Platinum Newport “Beached”  35 Inches, 71 Lie, 4 Degrees of Loft w/ PingMan “Blacked Out” Grip

1998, 1999, 2000: Scotty Cameron Pro Platinum Newport “Beached”  35 Inches, 71 Lie, 4 Degrees of Loft w/ PingMan “Blacked Out” Grip

2001: Nike Golf and The Open Championship

The relationship with Titleist Golf ended quickly and when David showed up to Kapalua with a non-Titleist stand bag the rumor mill went nuts. The story (although super speculative) was that David opted out in the middle of a $4.5 million per year deal with Acushnet, a lawsuit followed, but Davids’s stance was that he had a marquee player clause that allowed him to walk if he wasn’t “marquee” aka highest-paid.

Apparently he had a point, Acushnet had recently inked big deals with Davis Love and Phil Mickelson leading someone on the outside to do the math. However, I’m not an attorney, wasn’t there, and have no clue what the legality of any of it was. Point is, he walked and landed at Nike with a new head-to-toe contract. 

 

DRIVER:

Titleist 975D 7.5 (no line heavier head weight) w/ True Temper EI70 Tour X

Titleist 975E Prototype 8.5 w/ True Temper EI70 Tour X

Nike Titanium w/ True Temper EI-70 II Tour X (pictured below)

Nike Titanium Prototype 7.5 w/ True Temper EI70 Tour X (featured image)

3 WOOD:

Callaway Steelhead Plus 4+ @15 w/ RCH 90 Pro Series Strong

Nike Prototype @14 degrees w/ True Temper EI-70 Tour X

Sonartec/Excedo (SS-03 head) Driving Cavity @14 w/ Fujikura Vista Pro 90X

IRONS:

(2-PW) Titleist 990B w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold X100  (with sensicore)

(2-PW) Nike Prototype “DD” Grind MB w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold X100 (with sensicore)

(2) Titleist DCI Black w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold X100  (with sensicore)

 

WEDGES: 

(53) Cobra “Trusty Rusty”, (57 @58) Cleveland 588 “Gun Metal” w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold S400

(53,58) Nike DD Grind w/ True Temper Dynamic Gold S400

PUTTER: Scotty Cameron Pro Platinum Newport “Beached”  35 Inches, 71 Lie, 4 Degrees of Loft w/ PingMan “Blacked Out” Grip

SPEC TALK

Over the years the one constant was David’s iron and wedge specs. As a shut-faced player he has always favored traditional lofts in his irons. However, a cool thing to note is his lie angles remained constant 59.5 (2-4), 60 (5-9). The running theory here was being a shallow (low hands) and shut faced player, keeping the lie angles at a constant (flatter) lie angle allowed him to feel like his angle of attack could remain the same for each iron. It’s just a feeling but that’s what he did. If the “why of it” is true, it looks like he was doing Bryson things before Bryson did.

David Duval Iron/Wedge Specs

Loft/Lie/Length/SW

  • 2-17/59.5/40.25/D5
  • 3-20.5/59.5/39 1/6/D4
  • 4-24/59.5/38 9/16/D4
  • 5-27/60/38 1/16/D4
  • 6-30.5/60/ 37 9/16/D4
  • 7-35/60/37 1/16/D4
  • 8-39/60/36 9/16/D4
  • 9-43/60/36 5/16/D4
  • P-47/61/36/ 1/16/D5
  • GW-53/62/35 5/8/D4
  • LW-58/62/35 9/16/D6

Whew…since this prolific run, David transitioned into some interesting projects with smaller companies like Scratch, B.I.G Golf (AKA Bio-engineered in Germany), back to the mainstream with Nike, and most currently Cobra Golf.

I hope you all enjoyed this walk down memory lane with me, Duval is not only fascinating from a career standpoint but digging into the equipment of DD has been quite the experience.

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“Why can’t I hit my new irons to a consistent distance?” – GolfWRXers have their say

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In our forums, our members have been discussing irons and how to hit your numbers consistently. WRXer ‘Hubb1e’, who is a 15 handicap, is having issues and says:

“I recently upgraded from 20 year old Taylor Made 360 irons to a set of custom-built Callaway Apex 19 Forged irons. Old irons were traditional cavity back. New irons are categorized as players distance irons. Both have the same fit.

My new 3 iron will go 230 yards or 130 yards and not even make it far enough to reach the fairway. My new 7 iron will typically go 160 yards but will often will fly 175 yards or drop out of the air at 120 yards. I can’t control the distances of my new irons, and I spent a fortune custom fitting them to my swing. Why is this happening? This was never an issue with my old irons. A bad hit would go 10-20% shorter, but I never had balls fly over the green or completely fall out of the air. What is going on with my new equipment?”

Our members offer up their solutions in our forum.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • ThreeBoxers: “Strike quality is your answer. Tech or no tech, irons will not have 50-yard distance discrepancies. Not super familiar with the Apex irons, but they’re pretty forgiving no? You might lose 10 yards on toe or heel strikes but 40, 50? You’re probably hitting it heavy. If they have a beveled edge, it may mask the feeling of hitting it fat a bit, but not the result. My Mizunos have a pretty aggressive front edge grind which helps a ton on heavy shots. It’s the difference between landing 15 yards short and 50 yards short. +1 on using foot spray to check impact.”
  • extrastiff: “It also would not hurt to check your swing speed. Even strike being terrible that’s a large discrepancy. Maybe your last build had a weight that helped you get consistent swing speed.”
  • WristySwing: “I would say inconsistent strike is the biggest issue. Now that can mean a couple of things. It could mean you, as in the person swinging, are not hitting the ball properly because of inconsistent delivery. The other option is the fit is bad, and it is causing you to be extremely inconsistent because you cannot feel the head. It might be a little bit of column A and column B. However, I would lean more towards column A in this scenario because even a horrifically misfit set someone could get used to it eventually and not have 100 yards of discrepancy in carry shot to shot. I’ve seen people who are playing 50g ladies flex irons with fat wide soles who are very shallow and swing a 6i 92mph still not have 100 yards of carry flux with their sets. If your miss is toe-side 9/10x that is because you are coming too far from the inside. When you get too stuck on the inside you typically stall and throw your arms at it. When you break your wrists (flip)/throw your arms at it you get a very inconsistent low point average that often manifests in extremely fat or thin strikes….typically fat since your squat and rotate is out of sync with your release. As others have said, get some impact tape/foot powder spray and see where you are actually making contact. Then if you can get on a video lesson and see what the issue is. As of right now, we can all only assume what is going on. If your low point control is good, you don’t get stuck, and you are hitting it in the middle of the head — then fit comes into question.”
  • larryd3: “I”d be on the phone to my fitter and setting up a time to go back in and see what’s going on with the irons. You shouldn’t be getting those types of results with a properly fit set of irons. When I got my fitting earlier this year at TrueSpec, the fitter, after watching me hit a bunch with my current irons, focused on increasing the spin on my irons, not on distance but on consistency. So far, they seem to be working well when I put a decent swing on them.”
  • fastnhappy: “One possibility that wouldn’t necessarily show up indoors is sole design and turf interaction. You may have a real problem with the newer clubs because of a sole design that doesn’t work for your swing. That’s hard to tell when hitting inside off a mat. If so, you’d see major distance inconsistency because of strike. The feedback I’ve seen on the players distance irons is exactly what you’re describing… difficult to control distance.”

Entire Thread: “Why can’t I hit my new irons to a consistent distance?”

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In our forums, our members have been discussing their favorite watches for golf. WRXer ‘Sourpuss’ asks fellow members: “Dealer’s choice, cost is of no concern. What would you wear if you could afford it? Top 5 of your choice?” and WRXers have been weighing in with their choices in our forum.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • sheppy335: “Garmin S40. Love the feel and look.”
  • golfkrzy10: “Apple iWatch with the hole 19 app. Yardage, score, fway, and putts. Perfect for my minimalist walking views on the golf course.”
  • jcboiler: “Second the Apple Watch. Need to look into the apps though.”
  • Deadsquiggles: “If it didn’t bother me to play with a heavy watch, I’d wear my Deep Blue NATO Diver Automatic. But instead, I wear my cheap GShock.”
  • Golfjack: “I thought I was going to come in with a witty comment about my expensive watch, but looks like I’m late! Anyway, I wear my Galaxy Active 2 normally now. Used the Golf Caddie app for a few times. It worked well enough, but I don’t see it helping too much. Still prefer using apps on the phone if I need GPS info. Otherwise, I just use my rangefinder.”

Entire Thread: “Favorite watch for golf?”

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