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Forum Thread of the Day: “If you are a 10 handicap with declining length, what clubs do you buy?”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from tsecor – a 10 handicapper who has noticed in the past couple of years that he has begun to lose some distance. Our members give their views on how tsecor can solve this issue, ranging from new club suggestions to a possible shaft change.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • agolf1: “I’d play Ping G410 like irons. However, you could also try lighter shafts in the more players’ clubs if your strike is still pretty good. Regardless, at some point, a low lofted iron may need to go if the speed isn’t there.”
  • Lepatrique: “Definitely go get fitted because swing tendencies (speed, attack angle, spin rate, etc.) will result in different answers. I carry a 6ir around 190-195 and based on my fitting (3 weeks ago) I found the Srixons – Both the 785 and z forged – went much longer than anything else I hit (holding shaft constant). They spun less and generated a lot of ball speed. 10-15 yards more distance on 6ir. Others – Mizuno 919 tour, mp18, Miura mc501, Apex pro, taylormade 730 – were all right in my typical distance. I passed on the srixons because they actually didn’t spin enough.”
  • 2putttom: “There’s not much help for getting older and losing distance, however, after struggling for two seasons I bagged Srixon 7 series and regained what yardage I had lost over the last five years.”
  • morgan18/19: “You are on the right track with a shaft change, and/or optimization. Keep everything else (flex pattern, swing weight, length, etc.) the same, but drop 10-15 grams from the shafts in your long irons. Good chance you will gain some carry distance, and hit better shots at the end of a round.”

Entire Thread: “If you are a 10 handicap with declining length, what clubs do you buy?”

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  4. kev

    Jun 18, 2019 at 10:09 pm

    i wouldn’t buy clubs. the best way to regain whatever distance you had most likely relates to fitness and flexibility. i lost lots of distance because i’ve gotten overweight by 25 pounds. with that weight gain i lost lots of flexibility. i’ve gone on a exercise program doing medium weights strengthening, stretching, swimming…..i’ve gotten few of the distance i lost back. the other lost yardages lost is from not enough shaft lean. i’ve got in a rut of going up on the ball. once i fix that i should be back to default mode.

  5. Handicapped Handicap

    Jun 16, 2019 at 11:31 pm

    Grab a longer club and when someone asks what you hit always reply with “sand wedge”

  6. Rich

    Jun 9, 2019 at 10:16 pm

    You play the clubs your clubfitter fits you for, based on your personal swing characteristics.

  7. that way

    Jun 9, 2019 at 3:33 pm

    Go get custom fit and custom built… Duh.

  8. Jim

    Jun 9, 2019 at 10:07 am

    Most major club producers are offering distance irons. I suggest picking the heads you like the looks of then demoing those heads with both steel and graphite shafts to see which irons perform the best. An y good club fitter should be able to let you do this, and if you buy the clubs, the fitting is free. Some of these distance irons are Callaway RogueX, Titleist AP3, Ping G700, etc.

  9. SoonerSlim

    Jun 9, 2019 at 9:57 am

    Most of the major club manufacturers are producing a club that is designed with lower lofts for greater distance. For example, Callaway has the Rogue X, Titlelist the AP3, and Ping the G700s. I suggest two things for buying new clubs: First, if you’re like me, pick the club heads you like the looks of, then demo all of them to see which gives you the best performance. Try to demo them with both steel and graphite shafts. You can usually do this with an accomplished fitter, and it you buy the clubs, then the fitting is free.

  10. Matthew Hill

    Jun 9, 2019 at 8:38 am

    Doesn’t anyone realize today’s lofts on clubs are average 2 clubs stronger. pw were always 48 degrees now callaway etc are 41 degrees. Duh! anyone should should hit today’s club longer. Simple reason to upgrade.

  11. Howard Clark

    Jun 9, 2019 at 8:01 am

    Move up to the correct tee so the height you’re generating with your approach matches what the architect intended when he built the hole. Or continue trying to run a 4 iron onto an elevated green that calls for an 8 iron approach. But as a fellow competitor says, “But my ego!!” He used to be a 1. My answer is, “Doesn’t your ego come into play when you shoot 82???”

  12. Jim Lynch

    Jun 9, 2019 at 6:35 am

    I grabbed back 8-10 yards per club and picked up slightly higher trajectory by swapping out my KBS shafts for Aerotech Steelfiber 110’s in my Ping S55’s. Plus, I can beat more balls and not have sore wrists anymore. Yeah, for me it’s probably time for an upgraded head, too, like i210, i500 or Apex Pro but I don’t think you have to overhaul yourself to a game improvement head just yet.

  13. DC

    Jun 8, 2019 at 11:47 pm

    The Srixon players are full of it. 10 handicap and losing distance and you use a players club to gain distance? What am I missing other than your lies? Who vets these BS answers? Get a softer shorter shaft like your useless dong and slice it into the high grass circle jerk where your other “gamers” are making facial shots.

  14. Jack Nash

    Jun 8, 2019 at 8:08 pm

    If you’re a 10 & rising you don’t buy Tour irons. Something like JPX Hot Metal is more like it. If you’re losing distance these are your best bets.

    • James Pickett

      Jun 26, 2019 at 10:29 pm

      I bought a 4-pw set of jpx 900 hot metals with xp95 stiff soft stepped 2x. I carry the 8 iron 150. I mix in the 9,pw,gw in forged with xp105 for windy days. I carry the 4 iron around 195-200 and it’s just stupid how long these clubs are and I’m 50 years old. Technology in shafts and club heads are impressive compared to 10 years ago. The price is high as well though. You’re comment nailed it.

  15. Ben

    Jun 8, 2019 at 7:47 pm

    I switched to hybrids with graphite shafts. I play a 2 through 6 hybrid. They are much easier to hit both from the fairway and in the rough. They seem to get plenty of carry, high launch and stop on the greens. I don’t care what the number is on the club just if it gets there or not. I am 70 years old and this really works of me. I play PXG hybrids which were a little costly (although I got them through the PXG for Heros program). I am a 8 handicap and play a course that is 6800 yards long. Give them a try. I think you’ll be surprised. Good luck

  16. Bob Jones

    Jun 8, 2019 at 5:39 pm

    I bought a rocket-propelled driver.

  17. Bill

    Jun 8, 2019 at 4:45 pm

    Don’t be too proud to move up to the next tee. No shame in it.

    • Peter McGill

      Jun 8, 2019 at 8:03 pm

      They let you do that in the comp? Super!

  18. Steve

    Jun 8, 2019 at 7:12 am

    I gained 20 yds from callaway rogue x’s and improved distribution

  19. Q

    Jun 7, 2019 at 3:39 pm

    Hit the gym, get a trainer, get stronger, it’s never too late
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The best golf clubs for the money

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What are the best golf clubs for the money?

It’s a common question golfers ask, and depending on your skill level and budget, the answer can vary greatly. So, to help you figure out what the best clubs for you are, we’ve broken it down into a few categories to help you in the decision making process.

Best golf clubs for the money

Beginner Golfer – Entry-level budget

Getting your first set of clubs is all about maximizing value to get enjoyment out of going to the course or the range and most often involves buying a complete package set. Could you go directly to a high-end fitter to have them set you up with thousands of dollars would of gear? Of course, but it would be like getting handed the keys to a supercar without ever having a driver’s license—drive over a few curbs with a starter car before taking those skills to a four-lane highway.

Now just because you’re looking at a box set doesn’t mean you don’t have options. Wilson, for example, offers various sized sets for golfers based on static height measurements—which is a perfect starting point. It’s important for you to start off on the right foot, and even if they aren’t a perfect fit, the closer you are to the ideal set will make getting started a lot easier and a lot more fun.

The other option is to buy used, and with so many resources available online including used specialty sites like GolfAvenue.ca, you can find clubs in the 5-plus-year-old category that are going to offer tremendous value if you know where to look. This way of shopping for clubs often requires a bit more research to make sure you are buying the best clubs suited for your game, but depending on what you buy, you could get many years out of clubs purchased this way.

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Play a lot of golf, and looking for value

This is where I believe most golfers tend to fit in, and it is also where you have the greatest number of options when looking for equipment. The idea of value will mean different things to different people, but when looking to get the most out of your equipment, getting fit is going to offer the best long term value for your game.

Depending on where you are buying your equipment, you can still buy “new” but purchase a previous generation model to save sometimes up to 30 percent, and if you are one of the lucky ones that happen to fit into “off the rack” irons and wedges, minus a grip or lie adjustment, then you can once again shop for previous-generation gear and see huge savings while still getting the best equipment for you.

The other option of getting great value and great quality equipment is shopping DTC—direct to consumer. There are a number of brands that have forgone the traditional selling channels and allow you to purchase custom-fit clubs direct for up to half the cost of traditional manufacturers including Ben Hogan, New Level, and Sub 70. These brands offer top-of-the-line gear, but thanks to their marketing approach and streamlined operations you can get fantastic value and high-quality gear built just for you.

Play a lot of golf – spare no expense

If you fit into this category, you are going to have the greatest number of options when it comes to finding equipment. Just like with any consumer product/experience, this approach is the most expensive, but it also puts the highest value on maximizing performance over anything else.

The most common scenario is working with a brand agnostic club fitter and if you are looking for one near you, check out our GolfWRX best drivers of 2020 article for our list of some of the best club fitters and facilities in North America.  Brand-agnostic fitters won’t limit your set by brand and will instead go through every option within your fitting parameters to make sure you are getting the most out of your clubs.

The best golf clubs for the money but will ultimately be based on your budget but the price doesn’t have to be a reflection of the amount of fun you can have playing golf.

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We want our members’ WITBs! Submit your WITB to be featured on the GolfWRX front page

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Greetings, GolfWRXers!

WITB (both member and Tour) has been at the heart our site since day one. Today, it’s a major component of our front page content, and there is no shortage of member WITB threads in our forums as well.

What we’d like to do is standardize the presentation of some member WITBs and member WITB photos so we can feature them on the front page. More to the point: We want to showcase our members’ WITB in the same way we do, say, Tiger Woods on the front page.

We think that beyond the “seeing your name in lights” factor, it’ll create some really cool material for the front page and it will also be incredibly informative and helpful for fellow members.

So, what do we mean by “standardizing” the presentation?

Look at Tiger Woods’ 2020 Farmers Insurance WITB below.

Driver: TaylorMade SIM (9 degrees)

Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana D+ White 60 TX

3-wood: TaylorMade M5 (15 degrees)

Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana D+ White 70 TX

5-wood: TaylorMade M3 (19 degrees)

Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana D+ White 80 TX

Irons: TaylorMade P7TW (3-PW)

Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100

Wedges: TaylorMade MG 2 “Tiger MT Grind” (56-12, 60-11 degrees)

Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2 GSS

Grip: Ping PP58 Blackout

Golf Ball: Bridgestone TourB XS

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Cord

Additionally, we will showcase an image of the club in question for each section and a full bag shot (minimum dimensions 1024×768) as the featured image. For the purposes of the thread, feel free to add all the photos at the end or insert them throughout.

In addition, feel free to add a paragraph or two about your set up, the method behind your madness, your age, current handicap index etc. Anything you feel that’s relevant and that you think your fellow WRXers will find informative and beneficial!

We’d like you, GolfWRXers, to share your WITBs in this thread using the format above.

So get submitting your WITB in our forum as we’ll be publishing them on our front page over the coming days and weeks!

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What GolfWRXers are saying about ‘hitting it 300+ yards using a stiff shaft’

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In our forums, our members have been discussing the use of a stiff shaft and whether it can provide both distance and accuracy. WRXer ‘ebibler’ kicks off the thread with this problem:

“I’ve been getting up to the tee lately and haven’t the slightest clue where my next drive is going. I have always played an X flex with a nice tight draw, but this year I seem to be hanging shots to the right(probably my hands or my swing but…….lol)

I currently play an F9 with the Atmos in X, it hits bombs, but they are useless unless I can control them. I’m normally around 3 Bills off the tee, any chance a Stiff flex would help? My town has zero options for fitting, so I come to you guys for help!”

And our members have been getting involved in the discussion with lots of advice offered up in our forums.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Jc0: “Consider a heavier weight if you are having control issues. Stiffer and heavier usually help with control.”
  • mcounci2: “Not me, but one of the guys in our regular foursome has an incredibly smooth swing and is about 310-330 with a stock stiff hzrdus smoke black TS3.”
  • Leftlove94: “If I get into one I can hit it 300+. Not as frequently as I used too, which is why I’m hitting a Stiff shaft now. Had one drive last week at 305 but it was a touch downhill. Average drive was about 275-280 w/ 5 yards of fade. A draw adds 5-10 for me.”
  • Booker: “One of my playing partners hits a 910 d3 with the stock made for 72s ahina. Plays to a three handicap Doesn’t care about shaft flexes or weight, just kills it—174mph ball speed with this thing. Also still plays a vsteel spoon with a 75g NV, no problem carrying the spoon 265. Going on ten years with that driver and 22years with the spoon.”

Entire Thread: “Anyone hitting it 300+ yards using a stiff shaft?”

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