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On Spec: Swing weight is overrated

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A deep dive into one of the most talked about but truly misunderstood aspects of club building: swing weight. What it really means, and why it isn’t the end all be all for a set of clubs.

Check out the full podcast on SoundCloud below, or click here to listen on iTunes or here to listen on Spotify.

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  1. Rich

    May 22, 2019 at 3:21 am

    Swing weight is a huge deal for me. Too low and I find myself coming over the top. Too high and I can’t feel or control the club.

    D2 in my irons (4I – GW), D6 in my SW and LW. All are single length (Wishon Sterling). Also D2 in the hybrid. D5 in the driver and 3W.

    In the irons I’ve gone as far as D5 in one direction–too heavy and hard to control–to C9–counterweighted with Boccieri Secret grips. Couldn’t feel them at the top. D2 is right for me.

    I’m interested in switching to graphite shafts in the irons for both lighter weight and less vibrations, but I’m not going to switch from Wishon Sterlings. I don’t know how they’ll react to getting the swing weight right and I may not be able to do it.

  2. Skip

    May 21, 2019 at 12:45 pm

    This guy just lost all credibility. Dismissing a feel characteristic in a feel game. smh. It’s not the difference between being able to hit the ball or not, but a club “feeling” better is a big deal.

  3. Mf

    May 20, 2019 at 7:25 pm

    Anybody who dismisses any part of how anything is measured, ever, should just quit now and go away

  4. Steve

    May 20, 2019 at 3:14 pm

    Admittedly, I have not listened to the audio, but I do know one thing: my transition from steel iron shafts with 105+ gram weight to graphite with one-third less total gram weight in the shafts is the most difficult (and regrettable) equipment adjustment I have ever made. If that is not what this podcast is about, then I’ll crawl back to my cave. In short, swing and total weight are a big deal and always have been — at least to my knowledge and experience.

  5. Get-outta-here

    May 20, 2019 at 2:26 pm

    So if golf is a game of feel and swing weight is a measurement of how the club FEELS in your hand, then how is swing weight overrated??? Swing weight also plays a big role in keeping a person in tempo. I agree with Alex above. Prob not even worth wasting the time to listen to this.

  6. Alex

    May 20, 2019 at 2:12 pm

    Funny thing for me swing weight is the MOST important thing. Especially in woods, on more than one occasion i have gotten drivers in the D6 range and could not hit a ball with it and then changing out the weight to a more manageable D2ish would be night and day difference.

    • TC

      May 20, 2019 at 2:53 pm

      I couldn’t agree more with Alex and after spending 40 years fitting, to me swing weight balance is absolutely the most important factor in making good clean contact and I couldn’t disagree more with this editorial it is absolutely wrong. When I fit anyone I warm them up with their clubs and adjust the swing weight balance on their clubs and they always get at least 10 yards more and pure strikes as opposed to they don’t have a clue where their head is at the upper transition and cant close nearly as well. I hate to disagree with Ryaqn Barath but this one we couldn’t be farther apart on and I really think he needs to go back and do some more research because swing weight is the most important aspect in club fitting and I agree 110% with Alex’s comment, swing weight balance is a very personal thing but it must be correct or you are loosing major distance and control

  7. Bruingolf04

    May 20, 2019 at 2:05 pm

    Would love a “TLDR” or perhaps “TLDL” on these audio posts. Don’t always have time to weed through listening. Interesting subjects, poor execution on keeping people engaged.

  8. Mike

    May 20, 2019 at 11:30 am

    Because it takes hours (or days) to transcribe audio for you. The ROI isn’t there.

    • Golf101

      May 20, 2019 at 6:43 pm

      Days? Phones have a talk to text feature and even if they didn’t it wouldn’t take days lmao.

  9. Rob

    May 20, 2019 at 10:50 am

    I agree about the transcript

  10. Scratchscorer

    May 20, 2019 at 10:22 am

    Maybe I am in the minority but I come here to read about golf. If I wanted to watch or merely listen I could go on YouTube or find a podcast. I don’t get why the conversation can’t be transcribed so I can read it at my own pace.

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Golf’s Perfect Imperfections: Live from Mexico Open + Insight on how the pros stay ready

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In this week’s podcast, we are catching up with Shawn on his experience at the Mexico Open and we dive into some of the techniques pros are using to stay ahead of the game.

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GPI: 3,000 years and no change in how we exercise our bodies…until now

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EMS (Electro Muscle Stimulation) training is a highly effective and time-efficient workout that can benefit people of all ages and fitness levels. It involves using a special suit that delivers electrical impulses to the muscles, causing them to contract and work harder than they would during traditional exercise. The Team at Wisdom in Golf has partnered with the Katalyst team, which has sought to bring EMS training at the leisure of your own home. Their ultimate goal is to help everyone develop with this technology at their own pace.

In a recent podcast, we did, with the CEO & Founder of Katalyst, Bjoern Woltermann, set the tone for what the EMS training is all about and what potential it has for every golfer out there, amateur or professional:

[Minute 02:09] “We’re talking about a new way of working out for the first time in 3000 years. Because for 3000 years, if we think about it, the Olympic Games are still the same, right? We wrestle, and we throw things, and we run, and we lift things. You know, it sure to be a rock, and now it’s a little bit more refined, but at the End of the day, we measure how much we can lift over our head. That’s literally what we measure.” – Bjoern Woltermann, CEO & Founder of Katalyst

This technology has been used for decades in physical therapy and rehabilitation settings but is now gaining popularity as a workout tool. One of the main benefits of EMS training is that it allows people to achieve maximum results in minimal time. A 20-minute EMS session can be equivalent to a two-hour traditional gym workout. This is especially beneficial for busy professionals and those with hectic schedules who struggle to find time for exercise.

Whether you want to lose weight, build muscle, or improve your overall health, EMS can help you achieve your objectives more efficiently than traditional exercise. Another advantage of EMS training is that it can be customized to suit individual needs and fitness goals. Within a month (Mid-March to Late-April) of utilizing the Katalyst Suit, the team at Wisdom in Golf claims to have seen profound gains in their golf swing, improvement with mind and body connection that is enhanced by the suit, and a better sense of well being.

Here is what Shawn said after using it for a month:

[Minute 35:09] “I did notice in the last week and a half I feel stronger over the ball, and I’m feeling more capable, and that’s, that’s a really fun feel to have for your confidence. So then I proceed to go through my practice session […] my beginning clubhead speed lately has been 102mph-104mph, and I can ramp it up to 110mph-112mph clubhead speed, and that’s pretty much where I have been staying. Last year it was at 114mph clubhead speed”, [35:53],” I haven’t been at 117mph clubhead speed since my 40s, I’m 57 years old, so I ramp it up to 114mph, Wow that’s pretty cool!”,[36:52],” Here I am at a 117mph clubhead speed at 57 years old, and I’m thinking I’m the king of the world right now, and then when I had a nice moment of gratitude, and I thought of you guys {Katalyst Team}.” – Shawn Clement

Furthermore, EMS is low impact and can be adapted to suit all fitness levels, making it an excellent option for people of all ages and abilities. It’s also ideal for those with joint or mobility issues, as the electrical stimulation can be used to target specific muscles without putting additional stress on the joints. Overall, EMS training is a highly effective and versatile workout tool that can benefit every demographic. With its time-saving and customizable approach, it’s no wonder why it’s quickly becoming a popular choice for those looking to achieve maximum results in minimal time.

Listen to the full podcast here.

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Club Junkie Review: Cobra’s new King Tour irons

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The Cobra King Tour irons have been proven on the PGA Tour already and will be in bags of better amateur players this year. The previous King Tour MIM irons were very underrated and offered great precision with a solid shape that many players liked. Cobra went away from the Metal Injection Molded construction and went with a five-step forging process for soft and solid feel.

Make sure to check out the full podcast review at the links below and search GolfWRX Radio on every podcast platform.

I was a big fan of the previous Tour MIM irons and played them in rotation throughout the last two years. Out of the box, I was impressed with the more simple and clean look of the badging on the new King Tour. Badging is mostly silver with just small black accents that should appeal to even the pickiest golfers. I didn’t notice the shorter blade length in the new irons but did notice that the leading edge is just slightly more rounded. Topline is thin, but not razor thin, but still has enough there to give you the confidence that you don’t have to hit it on the dead center every shot.

Feel is solid and soft with just a slight click to the thud on well struck shots while mishits are met with a little more sound and vibration to the hands.

These King Tour irons are built to be cannons and place more emphasis on consistent and precise shots. I also felt like the new irons launch easily and maybe a touch higher than some irons in the same category.

My launch monitor showed my 7 iron with an average launch angle of 22 degrees and spin right around 5,800 with a Project X LZ 6.0 stock shaft. Ball speed isn’t the ultimate focus of this iron but it did well with an average around 108mph and the iron was able to keep the speed up well when you didn’t strike the center. You will still see a drop off in speed and distance when you miss the center, but you don’t have to be Navy SEAL sniper accurate on the face to achieve a good shot. Dispersion was very tight, and while there are bigger irons with more forgiveness, this players cavity still allows good playability when you aren’t bringing your A-plus game to the course.

Cobra lists the King Tour as an iron for a Tour level player up to a 7 handicap and I think this iron could see the bags of more golfers than that. I am a 9.4 handicap, and I felt more than comfortable playing this iron even on less than perfect days.

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