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Forum Thread of the Day: “The conduct of the spectators at Bethpage Black”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from Pauly567 who expressed his disapproval of the behavior of some spectators at the PGA Championship. Our members have been discussing the conduct of some of the spectators at Bethpage Black, and whether they feel that their behavior is acceptable, as well as what could occur when the course plays host to the 2024 Ryder Cup.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Ashley Schaeffer: “I don’t weigh in on crowd issues often, but this is on another level. I am very confused by the motivation of the New Yahker crowd in displaying these antics. Do the loudmouths think they are being funny? Do they not get enough attention in their personal lives? It’s honestly puzzling how one locale can produce so many incredibly annoying fans, and be somewhat celebrated for it. “Well, that’s just the New York crowd, hehehe” is misguided. We shouldn’t hand out passes for being obnoxious based on location.”
  • LeoLeo99: “Other than the 18th tee, didn’t hear any hooligans out on the course. They made Willett laugh so much serenading him with Danny Boy on the 18th tee that he threw them a ball. All good fun. Phil gave my wife a high 5 and Tony Finau autographed some stuff for wife and me. Almost no mud on course. Perfect weather. Very organized getting people to/ from the course and in the huge merchandise tent. If you go, you’ll do some walking.”
  • Dave230: “There’s no other sport you can get as close to the stars as in golf. If a player hit a ball into the rough, you can watch it happen from two yards behind them; it’s unique. It’s sad how people abuse that privilege. I never like when people compare it to getting abuse from crowds in other sports, it’s done from a distance and in an arena setting, it’s much easier to drown it out. If you’re at work and there’s lots of stuff going on in the office you can work. If there’s one person in your ear talking all the time, you’re going to be distracted.”
  • NoodleSalad: “What I find interesting is that despite all this talk about how atrocious the fans are, not a single pro has complained about them in post-round interviews. I’ve read all of the interviews, and no one has a negative thing to say. Odd isn’t it? Although Spieth credited them with helping him sink a birdie putt on 8: ‘Yeah, the crowd is yelling out that no one has got it to the hole yet and DJ hits it, and it kind of breaks less than it looks. I had a read, plus the crowd is hollering that everyone has left it short, so I just went off a little bit lower line than what DJ had, and luckily I was able to see that. You just try to get the right speed for the green and certainly it’s a bonus when it drops.’

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  1. The weekday

    May 20, 2019 at 10:53 pm

    I personally love it, as long as they don’t patronize the golfer, or yell out mid swing.

  2. cg

    May 20, 2019 at 6:01 pm

    So many douche bags yelling and screaming for some attention. It just perpetuates the stereo typical New Yorker…. a rude A-hole.

  3. MikeyB

    May 20, 2019 at 3:24 pm

    The TV coverage definitely would make someone unfamiliar with golf think the patrons are drunken soccer hooligans. You can hear all kinds of random comments being shouted at players, some being cheered for, and others being booed.
    I honestly think the 16th hole at the WMI with its stadium seating and Roman Colesium vibe started this drunken boorish “It’s in da’ hole!” or “Mashed pah-tay-tah” or “Baba Booey!” scream fest that rivals a convention of tourette’s syndrome patients for random outbursts.
    How many of these people are ‘over refreshed’ is up for debate, and is removing these people a violation of their ‘free speech’ rights?
    I think the PGA needs to start airing commercials about fan decorum and start banning people for life from PGA events to get the point across.

  4. Jay Edward

    May 20, 2019 at 12:29 pm

    “What I find interesting is that despite all this talk about how atrocious the fans are, not a single pro has complained about them in post-round interviews”

    The pro’s don’t complain because they don’t want to be the victim of the drunk, look at me jerks in the future. Ask Monty, or Sergio how it feels to be the pro that fans know they can get to.

    • Scott

      May 20, 2019 at 2:03 pm

      Pretty much the same as complaining about Islam…you will be the bad guy.

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Today from the Forums: “The importance of wedge fitting”

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Today from the Forums we delve into a subject dedicated to wedge fitting. Liquid_A_45 wants to know if wedge fitting is as essential for golfers as iron fitting, and our members weigh into the discussion saying why they feel it is just as imperative.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Z1ggy16: “Super important if you’re a serious golfer. Even better if you can get fit outdoors on real grass and even go into a bunker.”
  • ThunderBuzzworth: “The biggest part of wedge fitting is yardage gapping and sole grinds. If you have a grind that doesn’t interact with the turf in your favor, it can be nightmarish around the greens. When hitting them try a variety of short game shots with different face angles etc. with the different grinds to see which one works best for what you need.”
  • Hawkeye77: “Wedge fitting I had was extremely beneficial when I got my SM6s a few years ago. Mostly for working with the different grinds and how they interacted with my swing and on different shots and having an eye on my swing to help with the process and evaluate the results. My ideas of what grinds were right for me based on researching on Titleist, etc. just were not correct in 2/3 of the wedges I ended up with as far as the grinds were concerned. Good to have an experienced fitter available to answer questions, control variables, etc.”
  • cgasucks: “The better you get at this game, the more important wedges are.”

Entire Thread: “The importance of wedge fitting”

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Today from the Forums: “Pull cart recommendations?”

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Today from the Forums we take a look at pull carts currently on the market. Bogeygolfer55 is looking for a quality pull cart for less than $300, and our members have been giving their recommendations in our forums – with Clicgear proving to be a popular option.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Yuck: “I have had a clicgear 3.5 for nearly four years now. Holding up well with well over 200 rounds on it so far.”
  • Hawkeye77: “I had a Clicgear and liked it a lot, but my daughter “appropriated” it. Came upon an article a year ago about the Blade IP. Ordered one. It folds flat instead of into a cube which I like, and when I take it out it is quicker to get ready to go, and easier to take down. That doesn’t mean the Clicgear was particularly difficult, but it was more involved and 4 pounds heavier – don’t mind pushing a lot less weight.”
  • Celebros: “Another vote for Clicgear. The 4.0 just came out, so you may be able to find some of the 3.5+ models discounted soon.”
  • I_HATE_SNOW: “Sun Mountain user. Tall thin tires roll through the grass the easiest. Ours are old enough that the tires inflated. Once slimed, they stay up all winter. Mesh baskets on the cart are nice for carrying headcovers, water bottles, dog leash, etc.”
  • birddog903: “I’ve had a caddytek lite three-wheel version for a year or so. No complaints and I paid less than $100.”

Entire Thread: “Pull cart recommendations?”

 

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Today from the Forums: “Recommend me a 14th club…”

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Today from the Forums showcases our members helping out ewe8523 who is on the hunt for a 14th club. Per ewe8523:

“My home course is fairly short 6050 yards, so I’m not really in a position where I have to hit a lot of long fairway shots. There is one par 5 on each side – 548 and 449 respectively.

Open to other options as well.

Including current specs and avg distance.

  1. Driver – Cobra F9 – 250 yards
  2. 3-Wood – Cobra F7 – 220 yards
  3. Hybrid – Callaway Epic – 200 yards
  4. 5 Iron – Callaway Apex CF16 – 175 yards
  5. 6 Iron – Callaway Apex CF16 – 165 yards
  6. 7 Iron – Callaway Apex CF16 – 155 yards
  7. 8 Iron – Callaway Apex CF16 – 145 yards
  8. 9 Iron – Callaway Apex CF16 – 130 yards
  9. PW – Callaway Apex CF16 – 115 yards
  10. 50 Degree – Vokey SM6 – 100 yards
  11. 56 Degree – Vokey SM6 – 75 yards
  12. 60 Degree – Cleveland CBX – Bunker Only
  13. Putter – Scotty Cameron Newport 2
  14. ?”

WRXers have been giving their suggestions on what could work best for ewe8523, and also discussing what they have found most useful from a 14th club standpoint.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • heathpitts: “Very similar setup and gapping to my setup. Although my wedge lofts are a bit different. I have wedges at 50, 54, 58, and 62 but generally, only carry 3 per round. I adjust the 54-62 based on where I’m gonna play. I do also have a graphite shafted 3 utility iron that I play around with as a driving iron, but I see that you haven’t really found one that you like. I adjust the 14th club based on the course or conditions or time of year (due to different wedge grinds) sometimes but try to keep it as simple as possible. I think your setup is pretty good honestly. I always seem to score better with fewer options, so I don’t try to get cute with shot selection 🙂 I play 13 clubs a lot of times.”
  • MP4444: “I agree with the others on a club to hit that 185-190yrd spot. Either a hybrid or an iron with extra help compared to the CF16s. I personally have a 4 hybrid and a more game-improvement style 5 iron that I use interchangeably for this spot in my bag depending on how I’m striking the ball. When my ball striking is on, I usually prefer an iron in this spot because my misses are smaller, but it’s nice to have the help of a hybrid when I’m not feeling so on with my game. If you go the iron route just be sure to check out the lofts to ensure the proper gapping. Some game improvement and super game improvement type irons have stronger lofts so you may need to look at a 4 or 5 iron depending on the model. I would also recommend hitting both on a launch monitor and comparing peak height and spin numbers. You are still typically looking to hold a green at this distance, so you want to make sure you are getting enough height and spin to have a chance.”
  • Z1ggy16: “The obvious choice is like a 188-yard club but if you never need that shot… Why spend the money? Other option is like a 64* wedge, but that’s probably going to get you into trouble more often than not. I’d lean toward the 185-190 yard club, probably another hybrid, gives you more flexibility if you play other courses that are longer.”
  • crapula: “Higher lofted Callaway Epic?”

Entire Thread: “Recommend me a 14th club…”

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