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Forum Thread of the Day: “Most iconic/best cult following driver of all time?”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from Pert1862 who asks fellow members for their view on which driver is the most iconic and has the best cult following of all time. Our members delve into the driver’s they feel deserve the top spot in this category, with the Cobra L4V proving a popular choice.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • jrshields3: “Adams 9015D was THE cult following driver when I first joined this group. I had 3 with different shaft combos, still have one that I occasionally take out to the range.”
  • pert1862: ” Cobra L4V driver. A legend that can be had for 50 bucks on eBay! My kinda club. I bet she still holds her own with the modern drivers.”
  • Big A HG: “Has to be the Cobra L4V by GolfWRX standards. I rarely saw them in the wild, but I actually gamed two L4V’s because of the thread and finally got kicked out of the bag last year for me.”
  • Krosch3: ” Superquad for me. It still is in my bag to this day. Have tried others, the Ping g400 LST was most recent. My accuracy with the R7 is unmatched and distance wise I can’t see myself getting much longer than I already get out of it.”

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  1. Timmy

    May 17, 2019 at 9:06 am

    R7 Superquad. Wish I still had mine. Been scouring ebay for one in good shape recently.

  2. Aztec

    May 11, 2019 at 2:31 pm

    Orlimar HIP 420 Ti.

  3. Mike Brincko

    May 5, 2019 at 10:07 pm

    Tour Edge Exotics Tour Proto, in another thread I stated my Rogue has been replaced by it. IMHO a much better driver for me at least, still a rocket launcher.

  4. Brando

    May 5, 2019 at 5:41 pm

    Lot of Good choices in the comments. I am 39 so my first good driver was the original King Corba 9 degree deep face. Thing was a rocket with a unique sweet spot and Greg Norman and Tiger Used it. The Big Bertha war bird was awesome as well. 975d 905r 983e all very good. Yes Taylor Made 510tp First of the 757 Fujikura shafts and 580xd very good. I can’t seem to kick my 430 sldr with a 757 out of the bag . Tried 10 of the newer drivers can’t find one I like better. Maybe this year I will find something.

    • Scratchscorer

      May 13, 2019 at 9:39 pm

      I have an SLDR with the TP shaft and I cannot imagine replacing it with anything else. Might even purchase a backup of the same model and shaft combo.

  5. Paul Latina

    May 5, 2019 at 5:29 pm

    975D. Best driver I ever hit and hit my longest drives ever with it. I had the EI70 x stiff shaft in it as well. Just beautiful and felt so good, maneuverable which ever way you wanted to go.

  6. Jim Rockford

    May 5, 2019 at 4:00 pm

    Original titanium Great Big Bertha. That driver was the biggest single leap forward I think we will ever see. Maybe the first TM metal wood surpasses but that was just before my time to be able to make comment. Surely the GBB since the early 80’s though. And I hit the GBB with the terrible stock shaft. I can imagine that driver with a modern shaft likely being borderline game-able.

  7. Greg

    May 5, 2019 at 8:37 am

    Anybody ever tested these against the current group? Particularly curious how the Adams 9015 stacks up on spin,forgiveness ect…

  8. Mike

    May 4, 2019 at 9:24 pm

    I see more guys still using a TaylorMade Burner 2007 driver than any other.

  9. Christian Larsson

    May 4, 2019 at 9:16 pm

    R510TP easily

    • TerryTMAC

      May 4, 2019 at 9:25 pm

      Of ALL time?
      I’m going old school. Callaway Big Bertha – War Bird.
      Best driver name too.

  10. XLS CULT

    May 4, 2019 at 6:47 pm

    I’m going Cleveland Hi Bore XLS as well. Set up perfect, sounded nice, hit it nice distances and was a SERIOUS fairway finder. Why has Cleveland not made an adjustable version. I know people who still bag this driver…. nothing better.

    • Scratchscorer

      May 13, 2019 at 9:41 pm

      Agree with everything except the sound. That thing sounded atrocious lmao.

  11. Greg Ellis

    May 4, 2019 at 5:28 pm

    Come on guy. Us old folks played persimmon. 1969 persimmon adapted with a very early adila graphite shaft and a “gamma fire” glass insert.

  12. Dan Walker

    May 4, 2019 at 4:05 pm

    Nike Vapor Pro the blue and black version

    • Max R

      May 10, 2019 at 11:46 am

      “Supposedly” the best Nike driver ever built was the SQ2.

    • Timmy

      May 17, 2019 at 9:09 am

      Never owned one but tried and was very good. I had both red coverts. But the blue was just too fugly for 99% of buyers. RIP Nike golf equip.

  13. Chris G

    May 4, 2019 at 3:13 pm

    Titleist 905S!

  14. John Agnew

    May 4, 2019 at 2:58 pm

    Taylormade 580 XD …legal version…too easy to hit high and deep.

  15. Jim

    May 4, 2019 at 2:25 pm

    2016 Taylormade M2 will go down as the best driver ever made

  16. 15th Club

    May 4, 2019 at 2:07 pm

    There actually is a rather clear answer that none of you are in thinking about.

    Toward the end of the persimmon driver era, top players and collectors were madly buying up prime specimens of the MacGregor tour drivers from the late ‘50’s and early ‘60’s. The king was the Tommy Armour 693T, designed by Toney Penna. They sold, if you could find one, for upwards of a thousand dollars. A $1500 driver in 1977 would be more than $6000 in today’s dollars. The market was so frenzied that gold magazines were doing stories about it which only drove prices higher.

    • 15th Club

      May 4, 2019 at 2:10 pm

      Sorry “golf” magazines not “gold”. But still the greatest bubble market in the history of golf equipment.

      • Pelling

        May 4, 2019 at 9:49 pm

        I played Toney Penna persimmon (driver, 3 wood, 4 wood, 5 wood) throughout the 1980’s-1990’s. Have them still, but haven’t hit in about 20 years. Don’t recall paying that much, but Penna’s were the best!!

    • Jim

      May 4, 2019 at 6:21 pm

      You’re absolutely correct. Sad thing is that most of today’s golfers are 20-30 something and don’t know any history at all, only current “events”.

      • Nack Jicklaus

        May 19, 2019 at 8:05 am

        Enlighten us all on the details of mashies and niblicks then. Tell us about teeing up gutta percha on a mound of sand. What is the best hickory shaft? Everyone knows their own time period best, including you.

  17. chad bilkins

    May 4, 2019 at 1:39 pm

    Superquad is money. I bought a new head on ebay and stuck an oban kyoshi white shaft in there. Destroyed the rogue on the launch monitor last year

  18. bob carroll

    May 4, 2019 at 12:54 pm

    PING G2

  19. Regis

    May 4, 2019 at 12:39 pm

    R7 limited. Box set came with 3 shafts. Low Medium and high flight. All good shafts. Took adjustability to the max. Way before it’s time

  20. Walt

    May 4, 2019 at 12:25 pm

    My favorite was the Taylormade with a bubble shaft. I still have it and although I don’t currently use it I am constantly tempted to bring it back into play

  21. Fred schubert

    May 4, 2019 at 12:22 pm

    Powerbilt citition

  22. MarioB

    May 4, 2019 at 11:50 am

    Looks like no one knows the meaning of iconic. Or we would get interesting answers like McGregor super eye o magic, Powerbilt Citation, Woods Bros All American, Taylormade Burner, Callaway Big Bertha, Titleist 975D etc…

  23. Bryan

    May 4, 2019 at 9:07 am

    The 460 Cleveland Launchers were super popular back in the college days.

  24. Richard Douglas

    May 3, 2019 at 4:14 pm

    Almost all of the comments are about drivers that are iterations of what changed it all. I suggest going back to these three that, in order and together, changed drivers forever:

    1. Taylormade Pittsburgh Persimmon. The club that popularized metal drivers.
    2. Callaway Big Bertha. The club that started oversize metal drivers.
    3. Callaway Great Big Bertha. The club that popularized titanium.

    Everything else comes from the genesis created by these three clubs. Every development since is an incremental change, but those clubs are the foundation.

    • Harry H Adam

      May 4, 2019 at 12:01 pm

      Spot on.

    • Dan mead

      May 4, 2019 at 1:53 pm

      This is the answer. Probably need to consider ping eye 2 driver which was really the first oversize driver in its time. Big bertha and great big bertha where ahead of their time and the change from getting a new driver was real back then. These days the next model does next to nothing

      • Chris

        May 4, 2019 at 7:52 pm

        Nailed it. I remember when the BB, Great BB (and then Biggest BB) came out thinking, “holy crap, how much bigger can they possibly go?” They definitely changed the game.

        Of the more “recent” (I.e 460cc era) drivers, I loved the Bridgestone J33r. Such a clean, simple look and solid feel off the club face.

    • Scott

      May 4, 2019 at 8:54 pm

      Yes. My thoughts exactly

    • Richard Chon

      May 5, 2019 at 12:50 pm

      Shoot. I didn’t even play golf when I was younger, but I remember how exicted my hockey teammates were about the GBB.

  25. jgpl001

    May 3, 2019 at 1:18 pm

    905R all day long
    983K out of the dead middle was a serious driver too

  26. Brian

    May 3, 2019 at 9:09 am

    I do have a soft spot for the L4V. Back in those days I had just started spending time on the forum and I definitely got caught up in the hype (which was very real, by the way). Threw a Protopype in it and everything. If we’re being honest though, going back a tad further, the Titleist 975D is the standard by which all other “cult classics” are measured.

  27. Dennis Sweeney

    May 3, 2019 at 8:00 am

    07 Burner TP, still have one and still use it quite often.

  28. Dave S

    May 3, 2019 at 12:54 am

    905R, see a lot on the board. The R 460 head that went straight. Titleist put enough spin in there to fix what TM and Cally couldn’t.

  29. The dude

    May 2, 2019 at 10:13 pm

    TM Superfast TP….if we are being honest (for good players)

  30. Brandon

    May 2, 2019 at 8:56 pm

    Cobra LTD pro, Cleveland Hibore XLS.

  31. JP

    May 2, 2019 at 6:50 pm

    905R should be at the top of that list.
    Of course the Big Bertha should be hailed for its greatness and trailblazing ways, but it didn’t have the following the 905R did.

  32. Nack Jicklaus

    May 2, 2019 at 6:38 pm

    The only golf club name that I have EVER heard non-golfers know of or talk about is the Big Bertha. I would say that somewhat indicates the reach and status of that club during its time and way after.

  33. S

    May 2, 2019 at 3:56 pm

    SLDR, of course! The best driver ever made, and what started it all

  34. Tim Dennis

    May 2, 2019 at 2:38 pm

    905R and 910D3, M2 would be there with a little more consistent hit. Just too erratic for the weekend golfer. 905R was long and straight.

  35. Mike Rohmann

    May 2, 2019 at 1:54 pm

    R7 SuperQuad especially the 282 version. Slightly different hosel I think. I have one that is almost brand new.

    • Adam

      May 2, 2019 at 4:54 pm

      back in highschool when I was on the golf team the superquads were badass

  36. Alec

    May 2, 2019 at 1:54 pm

    Cobra LTD is probably themost recent Cult Driver

  37. Alex

    May 2, 2019 at 12:34 pm

    905r and R7 superquad hands down. Epic and M2 will be in this thread in 5 years.

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WRX Spotlight Review: TaylorMade M5 fairway Rocket 3

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Product: TaylorMade M5 fairway Rocket 3

Pitch: The TaylorMade M5 fairway Rocket 3 is a stronger-lofted version of the standard TaylorMade M5 3-wood. The Rocket is 14 degrees. The standard M5 is 15.

Our take on the TaylorMade M5 Rocket 3

“WOW, you really hit that 3-wood like a rocket!”

” Not like a rocket… an actual Rocket!”

The beloved 3-wood. A favorite club of both average golfers and pros alike, a club that many will hold onto well after what some might consider their “best before” date. But with new options and improved technology, these old faithfuls are getting the boot quicker for a lot of reasons including the ability to better dial in a fit and help minimizing misses.

Since making a club faster off the middle is becoming more and more difficult thanks to the limits set forth but the USGA, OEMs are changing the way we think about clubs and putting a greater focus on decreasing dispersion and optimizing misses. TaylorMade is doing this with TwistFace, which was originally introduced in drivers a generation ago, and has now been included in the M5 and M6 fairway woods.

I got to spend some time with the knowledgeable crew at TaylorMade Canada in their new indoor facility just north of Toronto (lets call it Kingdom North) In that time, we went through a driver fitting, and then to the new M5 fairway woods to try and replace one of my oldest faithfuls: a 14-degree SLDR Tour Spoon. To say I have a unique ability to elevate a fairway wood is something that even my fitter was a little surprised by. My numbers with my cranked down to 12 degree (measured) fairway off the deck were good but could be improved. I can hit it both ways (as much as a 6-handicap can actually claim that) but my trusted go-to shot is a slight fade with some heel bias contact because of my swing. I am willing to sacrifice some distance but usually hit it where I want.

What I saw at the end of the fitting was a club that produced longer shots along with a tighter dispersion without having to make or to try and make any changes to my swing. The final fit was a 14-degree “Rocket” M5 fairway set to 12 degrees. It beat out my SLDR by a total of nine yards, which is an increase of just over a total of three percent, including an additional six yards of carry.

To say I was honestly surprised would be an understatement. The SLDR TS is a club that the first time I hit it I went WHOA! Low spin, workable, looks exactly how I want that club to look (small and compact). You can see from the numbers below when it works it works.

Why does TwistFace work?

Let’s explain and get a little deep in the technology weeds for a second. Bulge and roll is not a new concept. In fact, it would be a lie to claim that all OEMs haven’t done something similar to this is the past or played with these two variables to help golfers hit better shots. Fact: Every OEM optimizes the bulge and roll on their clubs to increase speed and maximize performance. Tom Wishon actually had a line of woods at one point that went the other way had VERY limited roll from the top tine to the sole. With this design, more loft on the bottom of the head helped players who miss low or need help elevating the ball off the deck increase launch and spin. It worked. Cobra also has what it calls E9 technology to tweak bulge and roll to help maximize the speed and forgiveness of their woods. It also works.

What makes TaylorMade’s TwistFace different is that it is the most aggressive iteration of this bulge and roll tweaking yet, and by introducing it into the fairway woods and hybrids, it’s proving to be a winner — even for this now-proven wrong skeptic.

At the end of the day, the M5 Ti “Rocket” was a measurable improvement over my previous 3-wood. Now it would be disingenuous to say “if you aren’t using TwistFace in your fairway woods you’re not maximized,” but if you are someone that struggles with fairway wood dispersion and looking to find some extra distance for taking on par-5s, taking a look at the new M5 and M6 fairway woods as part of your next fitting should be very high on your list.

 

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Forum Thread of the Day: “Low handicapper switching to game improvement irons”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from jasonTel3 – a low handicap player who plays blades but who has had his head turned by game improvement irons. According to jasonTel3, every ball was hit straight when testing out a set of Ping G400’s at a simulator, and he’s been asking fellow members for advice on whether he should make the move to GI’s.

Here are a few posts from the thread discussing jasonTel3’s conundrum, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • balls_deep: “My first thought is to say don’t do it.. but then if you’ve hit them, liked them, and the numbers were right, it could be a good option. A friend I play with uses G400 and they have too much offset for my liking. I also don’t like that you can see the cavity on the 4 and 5 iron. Top line is actually very nice for a SGI iron. I just read the Ping Blueprint article on Golf Digest where they were talking about how some players hit small heads better. I definitely fall into that category. That said, I just ordered a set of i210 to try as I had really good luck with the i200 and should never have sold them. Have you tried the newer I series? IMO it’s GI help in a players look with an acceptable sole width. Long story short though – if you felt comfortable and the fit was right, why not try them? If you don’t work the ball a ton, I don’t see any issue with it. High and straight is a good way to go!”
  • hammergolf: “I’ve been playing Ping G25’s for 6 years. Still can’t find anything I like better. I can hit any shot I need to whether it’s my stock draw, fade, high, or low. And when I hit it a little thin, or on the toe, it still lands on the green. My thought is why play golf with a club that will punish you for mishit when you can play one that will help you.”
  • azone: “Everyone has an opinion, and here is mine. If you are/have been a good ball striker with a sound mental game, your mind will keep writing checks your body may not be able to cash as you get older or don’t practice enough. Those “ugly” forgiving irons look beautiful when a miss ends up on the green, and you are putting– not in rough or deep in a short side bunker. Those irons won’t be AS ACCURATE as, say, a blade, BUT if you aren’t as dependable as in the past, your results will be better. I used to keep two sets of blueprinted irons; blades for practice and CB for play. I play with guys that have cashed checks playing…and they don’t care how ugly the iron is.”
  • Jut: “As a decent player (and ball striker) and a sweeper/picker (I could hit off of a green and not take any landscape with me), I’ve found much success with the F9s (which, with the wide sole, are very similar to the G410 irons). In the past 4 years I’ve gone from Mizuno MP-68 to Callaway Apex CF16 to Ping i500 (a brief and bad experience) to the Cobra F9’s. For what it’s worth, the Cobras have been the best of the bunch by far.”

Entire Thread: “Low handicap going to game improvement irons”

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WRX Spotlight: Stitch headcovers

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Product: Stitch headcovers

Pitch: From Stitch: “Your game should match your style. At Stitch, we aim to merchandise our line of products so you can easily put together items that not only match your bag and what is it in it, but also match your style and personality. We want to make it easy for you to have a unique and color-coordinated golf bag. We have designed unique products that have defined color schemes so that choosing which items to put in your bag becomes easier. We aim to provide you with various looks, mixing and matching our head covers to give you confidence that the purchase you make for your bag will take you to the course in style. Let us help you dress your game.”

Our Take On Stitch Headcovers

Stitch is a relatively new company – founded in 2012. The company initially only created premium headcovers but has grown into so much more, with all sorts of golfing accessories now on offer on their site StitchGolf.com. Their bags, in particular, are now some of the most popular amongst golfers, with the quality and uniqueness provided leading multiple Tour players to sport them in tournament play.

That sign of quality in the bags bodes well for what the company was founded on – their headcovers. Stitch provides both leather and knit headcovers in a variety of designs that do as good a job as any in covering the needs of all golfers.

Stitch describes the companies Monte Carlo headcover as being their “classic, timeless design”, and for those looking for that vintage style to add to their set up then they can’t go wrong with this headcover. A mainstay in the likes of multiple tour winner Paul Casey’s bag, the Monte Carlo headcover, as with all of the companies leather covers, is hand-crafted from 100% leather and is both water and stain resistant. The cover comes in four color codes: Black, White, Navy and Red, and at $68 is the most affordable of all their leather headcovers.

Other options in the leather department range from their intricately designed Camo cover which comes in a multiple color design, as well as Stitch’s tribute to “The King”, through their Arnold Palmer headcover.

The AP cover comes in a minimalist black with white stripes for a classic feel, but it also comes in a white color code decorated with red, white and yellow stripes which, for myself at least, looks even more alluring. Part of an exclusive collection, the only issue with the AP cover is that only those located in the U.S. are currently eligible to get their hands on one. But for those in the states, the company is now offering a set of three AP leather covers for $128 instead of $298 should you use the code APLEATHERS on their site.

From their Tour Racer, USA, Shamrock and Bonesman editions, Stitch provides a great choice when it comes to their leather covers, and as previously mentioned, all are hand-crafted from 100% leather, water and stain resistant and will assure an excellent fit on your clubs.

Stitch also provides knit headcovers which contain not only excellent designs but also the same quality which has gone into their leather covers. All of the companies knit covers are made from Techno Wool, which is 100% acrylic and designed in order for your clubs to stay entirely dry. Another feature of the knit covers from Stitch is their smart fit design which ensures all of the covers retain their shape over a long period, as well as providing for a cover that will reliably stay on your club.

The knit covers from Stitch cost $68 ($72 for the limited AP cover), and there are currently seven different designs available to choose from over at StitchGolf.com. The leather covers are, unsurprisingly, a little pricier, but still very affordable, ranging from $68-$98. The covers deliver in both style and performance, and for a relatively new company, it speaks volumes that the likes of Jim Furyk, Paul Casey, Bryson DeChambeau and many more tour pros are now sporting the company’s creations.

 

 

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