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Titleist TS4: It’s all about spin

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Today is the day. Titleist has released the newest addition to the TS lineup; the Titleist TS4 is on tour at the Valero Texas Open now and is slated to hit retail in late June.

What is the TS4 and how does it differ from the TS2 and TS3? Let me give you the in-depth tech details directly from Titleist.

The TS4 is the newest, smallest and lowest spinning member of the TS family of drivers. Designed for a core group of players looking to further reduce spin but maintain the fastest legal ball speeds Titleist has ever achieved. In company testing, the TS4 reduces spin by an average of 300-400 RPM compared to the TS2 and TS3 drivers. All of this while also in a player preferred 430cc package. The appearance from address is a throwback to the traditional pear shape that made Titleist drivers what they are today — but beyond the shape, there is nothing classic about the technology packed into this 430cc titanium weapon.

Utilizing the same speed chassis and ultra-thin crown as other members of the TS family to maximize discretionary weight, the R&D team was able to move the CG (center of gravity) five millimeters closer to the face. Sure five millimeters seems like a small number when maybe talking about a 550-yard par 5, but in the world of golf club engineering, it’s big news and a LOT of movement. As we have seen before, moving CG closer to the face will make the driver lower spinning and a lot more workable.

With the Titleist TS4, you get the same Sure-Fit flat weight adjustability as the Ts2 driver but in a forward configuration, and a .75 degree SureFit hosel.

Now to the inside story.

This driver was five years in the making, dating back to the original 915 D4, which offered the same small footprint and spin reduction BUT as admitted by Titleist — not peak ball speeds that they would have wanted. Not to say the D4 was slow, but it took a real keen player to maximize the club’s potential. What will also be different this time around compared to the D4 is that this is a 100 percent full rollout, including retail.

You will soon be seeing these in shops and available through custom fitting studios, unlike the D4, which was part of an exclusive MOTO (Made Only To Order) program, which made the D4 difficult to add to your arsenal. MOTO was also home to the original 716 T-MB’s, which should be noted, as the club series now has a full-time place in the line up with the 718 T-MB.

Availability

Starting June 27, you will be able to order the TS4 from your local Titleist account and they should be available for fittings a few weeks before that.

Golfers can choose from the same four aftermarket shaft models as TS2 and TS3: Project X EvenFlow T1100 White 65, Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black 60, Mitsubishi Tensei AV Blue 55, and Mitsubishi Kuro Kage Black Dual Core 50.

Update: In-hand photos of Jimmy Walker’s TS4 from the Valero Texas Open

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Ryan Barath is part of the Digital Content Creation Team for GolfWRX. He hosts the "On Spec" Podcast on the GolfWRX Radio Network which focuses on discussing everything golf, including gear, technology, fitting, and course architecture. He is a club-fitter & master club builder with more than 17 years of experience working with golfers of all skill levels, including PGA Tour players. He is the former Build Shop Manager & Social Media Coordinator for Modern Golf. He now works independently from his home shop and is a member of advisory panels to a select number of golf equipment manufacturers. You can find Ryan on Twitter and Instagram where he's always willing to chat golf, and share his passion for club building, course architecture and wedge grinding.

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  1. Skeptic

    Apr 25, 2019 at 1:13 pm

    What pear shape? I don’t see it.

  2. Scott Francis

    Apr 20, 2019 at 4:59 pm

    So I dont understand why TItleist doesnt put a weight also in the nack A LA Callaway and Cobra. COuld be a small Triangular weight so if you wanted could move heavier weight back or front. Bad move on their part.

  3. Gunter Eisenberg

    Apr 5, 2019 at 5:02 pm

    Reminds me a lot of the R9 Superdeep.

  4. Bill O.

    Apr 1, 2019 at 8:30 pm

    Been looking for a smaller driver head. Still using a Callaway XR16. Those 460 cc heads just look too big for me. This is great news. I’ll make it work.

  5. Moses

    Apr 1, 2019 at 4:53 pm

    Been there done that with the D4. I don’t need 5 extra yards. I need more fairways

  6. Jack Nash

    Apr 1, 2019 at 4:37 pm

    Still the nicest looking head on the market

  7. jgpl001

    Apr 1, 2019 at 3:57 pm

    Beautiful looking head, but options of a Tensei 65g Blue and a 50g Kuro Kage ?

    What clown put these options together????

    Totally counterproductive

    • F

      Apr 1, 2019 at 4:13 pm

      Because they had loads of shafts left in the warehouse and so they were free

    • Jack Nash

      Apr 1, 2019 at 4:36 pm

      There’s a ton of shafts out there. You could change it yourself. It ain’t that hard. Their testing said those were the shafts with best results. Like they say, your results may vary.

      • Jack Nash Jr.

        Apr 15, 2019 at 3:32 pm

        I guarantee you his results varied.

  8. chad

    Apr 1, 2019 at 3:38 pm

    April fools?

  9. Bob

    Apr 1, 2019 at 3:06 pm

    Is the TS4 only for high swing speeds (100+)? I prefer the smaller head (430cc) with a flexible regular shaft, is that a combo that could work with this head?

    • srooch2

      Apr 1, 2019 at 9:58 pm

      That will work fine, also loft up will help

  10. Ray

    Apr 1, 2019 at 1:08 pm

    Smart move on titleist’s part. They have been known for higher spin compared to TM

  11. C

    Apr 1, 2019 at 10:38 am

    What’s the price?

  12. jason

    Apr 1, 2019 at 10:35 am

    This is weird. Golfers are truly obsessing about low spin. It’s reached a point this year where drivers have become too low spinning for 95% of players. Im a low single digit with 110-112mph clubbed speed and I cannot keep the TS3, FlashSZ, more M5 (all 9-9.5°) in the air. For the first time ever I’ve had to go to 10.5 I drivers, and in the M5 I had to ALSO move the weights back to the tail.

    People need to get back to focusing on 2400 spin. Some guys are trying to get to 1500-1600. That’s not reasonable when you’re launch angle is 14.

    • Foolitsa Prilone

      Apr 1, 2019 at 11:00 am

      Oh Jason…

    • dave

      Apr 1, 2019 at 12:41 pm

      im also right at 112….and i cannot find a shaft head combo to keep the flash sub zero or the f9 below 2700 consistently. even with baby draws….currently on smoke 6.0 tipped an inch. tried atmos black 7s 6x tipped untipped, black tie x, xlr8 x, paderson x, thats in each head reduced to lowest loft…if i hit a slight fade its 3300 275 carry…everyone is different.

      • Jack Nash Jr.

        Apr 15, 2019 at 3:36 pm

        You and Jason should focus on golf and not stats.

        You can get all the numbers just right and still stink.

    • STG

      Apr 1, 2019 at 3:15 pm

      Stop hitting the lower spin heads then Jason. TS2 will work better.

    • Scott Francis

      Apr 17, 2019 at 4:19 pm

      At 110-112 Swing speed which is what Rick Shiels is at you cant keep in the air? Shiels loved the TS3 even moreso than the TS2

  13. Matt A

    Apr 1, 2019 at 10:29 am

    Damnit I JUST bought an Epic Flash to replace my TS2 because that TS2 spun up too much – and I wanted to stick with Titleist.

  14. Travis

    Apr 1, 2019 at 10:07 am

    And 6 months after this the TS 5/6 will be out!

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  • Equipment accurate as of 1/14/20

Driver: TaylorMade M6 (9 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Atmos Tour Spec Black 9 TX

3-wood: TaylorMade M6 Rocket 3 (14 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Atmos Tour Spec Black 9 TX

Irons: Mizuno MP-20 HMB (3), Mizuno MP-4 (4-PW)
Shafts: Project X 7.0

Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM8 (52-12F, 56-14F), TaylorMade Hi-Toe (60-09 LB)
Shafts: Project X 7.0

Putter: Scotty Cameron GoLo DB5
Grip: Lamkin Deep-Etched Paddle

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Cord

Ball: Titleist Pro V1

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In our forums, WRXer Hotdocta created a thread to discuss the new SIM fairway woods and wants to hear from fellow members who have experienced them. Plenty of WRXers give their thoughts on the 2020 additions from TaylorMade, with the vast majority mightily impressed with what they have seen.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • DNice26: “I bought the 5 wood based on reports the Sim is silly long and low spin, and after my first round today, it absolutely delivered. The 5 wood isn’t too big, and I found it to flight excellently off the tee and off the fairway. It set me up today for birdies on all the par 5s. I have mine shafted with an 80X diamana blue, and it is fantastic.”
  • JoeFrigo: “The SIM is the hottest 3w I have ever hit. Had the m6 all last year and absolutely loved it. I said all last year it was the best fairway I’ve ever played….the SIM is even better. I love the profile at address, and there are times the SIM 3w gets within 1mph of my driver ball speed. I honestly went back to PGA store for playability and grabbed the 5w instead because the face is so hot. I had about 5 launch monitor sessions and 1 round on the course and was killing it, but gaps were way off now. Decided id wait and get more course time with it, but then the Coronavirus came.”
  • tyusg: “The SIM fairways are extremely hot off the face. Was hitting off the trackman at my work, and was reaching smash factors of 1.51 and 1.52. The shape of them do remind me of the M6, a little bigger, and a pretty deep face. But the V Steel tech they put back in I believe is why the smash was so high. Even on off center hits, the ball speed was pretty much all there still.”
  • Polly509109: “I have hit both SIM ti/ SIM Max. They were both very good. Tried all the Mavrik 3W offerings and SIM fit my swing better. Switched from TS3 fairway. Into the SIM ti with my old shaft from the Titleist. 82X Diamana Whiteboard. Don’t have any numbers for you, not really a launch monitor guy. But was getting 255-269 carry and 275-288 overall with the stock Diamana 75S shaft when I was fitted. 104-108 ss. Don’t know what kinda monitor.”

Entire Thread: “TaylorMade’s SIM fairway woods”

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What GolfWRXers have bought since ‘lockdown’

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In our forums, our members have been discussing their golfing purchases since lockdown began in many areas of the world. WRXer ‘lvmike’ created the thread and has purchased a Ping putter as well as a TaylorMade driver and our members have been getting involved with plenty of WRXers investing in new equipment from clubs to hitting mats and beyond.

Here are a few posts from the thread but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • JoeFrigo: “Other than a mat and net, unfortunately, I haven’t bought any clubs…courses are closed here so I can’t hit anything anyways. I’m now really looking into a personal launch monitor since ill have a month at least of no range time. But the temptation is strong for more clubs! particularly putters since I can do that in my basement green.”
  • manima1: “Purchased an EXPUTT putting simulator – perfect for lock-down. Review so far is this is an excellent tool in dialing in putting distances and developing a consistent stroke at a given distance – similar to how you can dial in irons and wedges on a typical full simulator.”
  • pmang: “In the past week I’ve bought a SIM Max, a TS2 and a hot melt gun. Come to think of it I bought a Garmin clip-on GPS/Rangefinder… oh, and some Adidas golf shoes…. and I’m sure there will be more.”
  • pgetzen: “Bought a Stitch SL1 bag and two Cleveland RTX4 wedges on the Walmart deal, as well as 3 knit headcovers.”
  • 1PuttTutt: “Full basement simulator setup, including hitting mat, screen/enclosure, mevo+ launch monitor, projector, gaming laptop, etc. Unfortunately only the hitting mat has arrived so far, but I was able to set up some blankets and padding so I can hit balls in the basement. I also bought four dozen balls and a pushcart. I was thinking the pushcart was a genius idea, being that courses would limit to one person per cart, and courses would run out. But then they shut courses down before I could use it.”
  • uglande: “Two Vokey SM8 wedges and a Scotty Special Select putter. I’m wearing out my basement carpet with all of this chipping and putting, so my short game should be good to go when we’re released again to the outdoors. I also bought some sweet Titleist black leather (noir) head covers.”
  • Kye123: “Me, my dad and my little bro bought a Swingcaddie S300 and an industrial net from a fishing company… was going great until my little bro sailed a 60 straight into the conservatory two houses down, wedges are now banned.”

Entire Thread: “What have you purchased since ‘lockdown’?

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