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Titleist TS4: It’s all about spin

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Today is the day. Titleist has released the newest addition to the TS lineup; the Titleist TS4 is on tour at the Valero Texas Open now and is slated to hit retail in late June.

What is the TS4 and how does it differ from the TS2 and TS3? Let me give you the in-depth tech details directly from Titleist.

The TS4 is the newest, smallest and lowest spinning member of the TS family of drivers. Designed for a core group of players looking to further reduce spin but maintain the fastest legal ball speeds Titleist has ever achieved. In company testing, the TS4 reduces spin by an average of 300-400 RPM compared to the TS2 and TS3 drivers. All of this while also in a player preferred 430cc package. The appearance from address is a throwback to the traditional pear shape that made Titleist drivers what they are today — but beyond the shape, there is nothing classic about the technology packed into this 430cc titanium weapon.

Utilizing the same speed chassis and ultra-thin crown as other members of the TS family to maximize discretionary weight, the R&D team was able to move the CG (center of gravity) five millimeters closer to the face. Sure five millimeters seems like a small number when maybe talking about a 550-yard par 5, but in the world of golf club engineering, it’s big news and a LOT of movement. As we have seen before, moving CG closer to the face will make the driver lower spinning and a lot more workable.

With the Titleist TS4, you get the same Sure-Fit flat weight adjustability as the Ts2 driver but in a forward configuration, and a .75 degree SureFit hosel.

Now to the inside story.

This driver was five years in the making, dating back to the original 915 D4, which offered the same small footprint and spin reduction BUT as admitted by Titleist — not peak ball speeds that they would have wanted. Not to say the D4 was slow, but it took a real keen player to maximize the club’s potential. What will also be different this time around compared to the D4 is that this is a 100 percent full rollout, including retail.

You will soon be seeing these in shops and available through custom fitting studios, unlike the D4, which was part of an exclusive MOTO (Made Only To Order) program, which made the D4 difficult to add to your arsenal. MOTO was also home to the original 716 T-MB’s, which should be noted, as the club series now has a full-time place in the line up with the 718 T-MB.

Availability

Starting June 27, you will be able to order the TS4 from your local Titleist account and they should be available for fittings a few weeks before that.

Golfers can choose from the same four aftermarket shaft models as TS2 and TS3: Project X EvenFlow T1100 White 65, Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black 60, Mitsubishi Tensei AV Blue 55, and Mitsubishi Kuro Kage Black Dual Core 50.

Update: In-hand photos of Jimmy Walker’s TS4 from the Valero Texas Open

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Ryan Barath is a writer & the Digital Content Creation Lead for GolfWRX. He also hosts the "On Spec" Podcast on GolfWRX Radio discussing everything golf, including gear, technology, fitting, and course architecture. He is a club fitter & master club builder who has more than 16 years experience working with golfers of all skill levels, including PGA Tour professionals. He studied business and marketing at the Mohawk College in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada, and is the former Build Shop Manager & Social Media Coordinator for Modern Golf. He now works independently from his home shop in Hamilton and is a member of advisory panels to a select number of golf equipment manufacturers, including True Temper. You can find Ryan on Twitter and Instagram where he's always willing to chat golf, from course architecture to physics, and share his passion for club building, and wedge grinding.

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25 Comments

  1. Skeptic

    Apr 25, 2019 at 1:13 pm

    What pear shape? I don’t see it.

  2. Scott Francis

    Apr 20, 2019 at 4:59 pm

    So I dont understand why TItleist doesnt put a weight also in the nack A LA Callaway and Cobra. COuld be a small Triangular weight so if you wanted could move heavier weight back or front. Bad move on their part.

  3. Gunter Eisenberg

    Apr 5, 2019 at 5:02 pm

    Reminds me a lot of the R9 Superdeep.

  4. Bill O.

    Apr 1, 2019 at 8:30 pm

    Been looking for a smaller driver head. Still using a Callaway XR16. Those 460 cc heads just look too big for me. This is great news. I’ll make it work.

  5. Moses

    Apr 1, 2019 at 4:53 pm

    Been there done that with the D4. I don’t need 5 extra yards. I need more fairways

  6. Jack Nash

    Apr 1, 2019 at 4:37 pm

    Still the nicest looking head on the market

  7. jgpl001

    Apr 1, 2019 at 3:57 pm

    Beautiful looking head, but options of a Tensei 65g Blue and a 50g Kuro Kage ?

    What clown put these options together????

    Totally counterproductive

    • F

      Apr 1, 2019 at 4:13 pm

      Because they had loads of shafts left in the warehouse and so they were free

    • Jack Nash

      Apr 1, 2019 at 4:36 pm

      There’s a ton of shafts out there. You could change it yourself. It ain’t that hard. Their testing said those were the shafts with best results. Like they say, your results may vary.

      • Jack Nash Jr.

        Apr 15, 2019 at 3:32 pm

        I guarantee you his results varied.

  8. chad

    Apr 1, 2019 at 3:38 pm

    April fools?

  9. Bob

    Apr 1, 2019 at 3:06 pm

    Is the TS4 only for high swing speeds (100+)? I prefer the smaller head (430cc) with a flexible regular shaft, is that a combo that could work with this head?

    • srooch2

      Apr 1, 2019 at 9:58 pm

      That will work fine, also loft up will help

  10. Ray

    Apr 1, 2019 at 1:08 pm

    Smart move on titleist’s part. They have been known for higher spin compared to TM

  11. C

    Apr 1, 2019 at 10:38 am

    What’s the price?

  12. jason

    Apr 1, 2019 at 10:35 am

    This is weird. Golfers are truly obsessing about low spin. It’s reached a point this year where drivers have become too low spinning for 95% of players. Im a low single digit with 110-112mph clubbed speed and I cannot keep the TS3, FlashSZ, more M5 (all 9-9.5°) in the air. For the first time ever I’ve had to go to 10.5 I drivers, and in the M5 I had to ALSO move the weights back to the tail.

    People need to get back to focusing on 2400 spin. Some guys are trying to get to 1500-1600. That’s not reasonable when you’re launch angle is 14.

    • Foolitsa Prilone

      Apr 1, 2019 at 11:00 am

      Oh Jason…

    • dave

      Apr 1, 2019 at 12:41 pm

      im also right at 112….and i cannot find a shaft head combo to keep the flash sub zero or the f9 below 2700 consistently. even with baby draws….currently on smoke 6.0 tipped an inch. tried atmos black 7s 6x tipped untipped, black tie x, xlr8 x, paderson x, thats in each head reduced to lowest loft…if i hit a slight fade its 3300 275 carry…everyone is different.

      • Jack Nash Jr.

        Apr 15, 2019 at 3:36 pm

        You and Jason should focus on golf and not stats.

        You can get all the numbers just right and still stink.

    • STG

      Apr 1, 2019 at 3:15 pm

      Stop hitting the lower spin heads then Jason. TS2 will work better.

    • Scott Francis

      Apr 17, 2019 at 4:19 pm

      At 110-112 Swing speed which is what Rick Shiels is at you cant keep in the air? Shiels loved the TS3 even moreso than the TS2

  13. Matt A

    Apr 1, 2019 at 10:29 am

    Damnit I JUST bought an Epic Flash to replace my TS2 because that TS2 spun up too much – and I wanted to stick with Titleist.

  14. Travis

    Apr 1, 2019 at 10:07 am

    And 6 months after this the TS 5/6 will be out!

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Product: GolfBalls.com’s AlignXL personalized golf balls

Pitch: From GolfBalls.com: “Featuring a durable, Tour-Proven golf ball alignment aid printed halfway around the golf ball with your personalization, AlignXL will take your game to the next level by giving you ultimate visibility to your ball alignment both on the green and the tee.”

Our take on GolfBalls.com’s AlignXL personalized golf balls

Beyond drawn-on designs with your own Sharpie, golf ball custom printing is nearly ubiquitous in the year 2019—and that’s not a bad thing. GolfBalls.com, for example, offers a full range of text and graphics printing. So do plenty of other sites. Heck, Titleist itself offers a myriad of custom options for your Pro V1.

All that by way of saying, it takes something unique to catch our eye in the custom ball space. Enter GolfBall.com’s AlignXL printing blends two concepts: drawing a line on your ball for alignment and adding personalized text. Plus, the font is pretty cool too.

Check it out below.

 

 

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Tour Edge launches 3 new HL4 iron sets: HL4 Iron, HL4 Iron-Wood, and HL4 Triple Combo

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Three new Tour Edge Hot Launch iron sets are hitting the market: Tour Edge’s HL4 Iron set, the HL4 Iron-Wood set and the HL4 Triple Combo set. This is the fourth edition of the Hot Launch series from Tour Edge founder and master club designer, David Glod.

Tour Edge promises “the best technology and performance at a mid-tier price point,” per a release, with national availability of the irons beginning August 1. Also notable: the company promises all custom fit orders will ship within an incredible 48 hours.

Tour Edge HL4 Iron Set

Tour Edge crafts HL4 irons from 431 stainless steel, and all irons feature an expanded undercut cavity for maximum forgiveness. The cavity allows engineers to position more weight away from the club face, thus elevating both MOI and CT. The company also credits the cavity with elevating launches and ball speeds, in combination with a shallower face and wider sole. In brief: easier to hit and hit high.

“The HL4 Irons are traditional in looks only,” said David Glod. “Their advanced game improvement tech and design techniques make them beautiful performers at a price well below the majority of irons available on the market.”

Additional HL4 features include advanced toe weighting technology for enhanced stability and Variable Face Thickness for better performance on off-center strikes.

The HL4 Iron set is a 7-piece set with options from 4-iron to 9-iron, as well as a pitching wedge, approach wedge, sand wedge and lob wedge. Right- and left-handed availability.

Tour Edge HL4 Iron-Wood Set

“The iron-wood is a best-seller for Tour Edge and this revolutionary set has become famous for vastly improving countless numbers of golf games,” said Executive Vice President of Tour Edge John Craig. “We were one of the first to ever make a hollow body iron and we have been able to perfect it over the years to the point where this set provides the very best in launch, distance and forgiveness. Every golfer can benefit greatly from this club and from this set.”

The seven-piece set is available in 12 different individual lofts and is designed to fill the space between 2-iron and lob wedge in a set.

Tour Edge HL4 Triple Combo Set

“The Triple Combo set combines three different HL4 models in a perfect seven-club blend,” according to Tour Edge. “The set earns classification as a maximum game improvement set due to the ease of use and added distance it provides, but it really stands out as a set that will bring added distance, efficiency and control to your golf game.”

The HL4 Triple Combo includes two HL4 hybrids (22 and 25 degrees), two HL4 Iron-Woods (29 and 32 degrees) and three HL4 Irons (35, 40 and 44 degrees.)

HL4 Custom Fitting

“We see HL4 as being the best value available in the custom fitting market,” said Glod. “That is why we created our 48-hour custom fitting delivery guarantee and why we are making a significant commitment to advertise HL4 heavily on the Golf Channel and elsewhere with the message of Get Fit. Spend Less. Play Better. We want to open up custom fitting to thousands of new golfers who are looking for innovation and performance at logical prices.”

“We are aggressively marketing the message that every golfer should be getting custom fit, and that it is especially mid to high handicap players who have the most to gain by getting fit,” “Our goal is to open the flood gates on custom fitting and HL4 has proven to be the perfect product to accomplish this goal with its advanced technology, top-tier performance and amazing price structure.” —Tour Edge Vice President of Marketing Jon Claffey.

The company plans to have 750-plus custom fitting centers across the country. All custom fit orders received by Tour Edge by 2:30 PM Central standard time will be built at Tour Edge headquarters in Batavia, IL and shipped to any continental U.S. state in 48-hours (either back to the Tour Edge fitting location or directly to the end consumer).

HL4 Iron Specs

The HL4 Iron set: $419.99 in steel. $489.99 in graphite. The entire set will be available in right and left-handed models.

7-piece HL4 Iron-Wood set: $529.99 in steel. $599.99 in graphite. The entire set will be available in right and left-handed models.

HL4 Triple Combo set: $569.99 in steel. $599.99 in graphite. The entire set will be available in right and left-handed models.

Stock shafts: UST Mamiya. Also available: KBS Tour 90 steel shafts.

 

 

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Forum Thread of the Day: “If you could get one thing from any tour truck, what would it be, and which truck?”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from NYCGolfNut who has created an interesting discussion which our members have got stuck into in our forums. NYCGolfNut has asked, “If you could get one thing from any tour truck, what would it be, and which truck?”.

Our members have shown a diverse taste in their answers to NYCGolfNut’s question, even if they have found it difficult to pick just one item!

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • bodhi555: “I’d go back in time to the Nike truck and get another set of Satin VR Pros, 1 inch longer with S400 Tour Issues fitted. Failing that a new set of Engage Wedges.”
  • sharkiesj: “Confirming groove set of i3 Blades from the Ping Tour van. And a freakin’ Tour finish PLD putter. Then I’d take the putter and smash the inside of the van to smithereens. I’d throw the putter back and say, Yo, I’ll see you next week at the next tour stop. This van better be fixed, and my putter fixed too. JC, that outta get them to release the PLD.”
  • cmagnusson: “Cobra truck, CB/MBs in a custom made One-Length set. Either that or go to the Odyssey truck and get a custom made White Hot Pro #1 arm-lock with a Stroke-lab shaft.”
  • golfingguru11: “Callaway lefty tour only stuff. Diamond epic flash, apex dots and one of Phil’s backup putters.”
  • martinritch1: “I have a specific shopping list. 1. Callaway 10.5 triple diamond head. 2. Taylormade GAPR lo bonded head with a Nippon Modus GOST shaft. 3. Vokey Raw 60 low bounce K. 4. Taylormade Hi-Toe 60 low bounce. 5. Scotty Cameron Circle T X5 flow neck.”

Entire Thread: “If you could get one thing from any tour truck, what would it be, and which truck?”

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