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Greg Norman: “If I had to do it all over again, I would go to one-length clubs”

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Greg Norman has never been a man to shy away from speaking his mind, and during Saturday’s Golf Channel broadcast of the QBE Shootout, the Australian declared that if he had the opportunity to begin his career again, he would do so with single-length irons.

Norman stressed how his experience while experimenting with Cobra King One Length irons led him to conclude that single-length irons are more beneficial than standard irons because “your spine angle stays the same” no matter what club you are using.

“Believe it or not, if I had to do it all over again as a 13 or 14-year-old, I would go to one-length clubs,” Norman said. “I actually had a set made for me when [Bryson DeChambeau] first came and joined, and I got it straight off the bat. When you think about it, my 4-iron and my 8-iron are the same length, but my ball flight was so good on all of them because your spine angle stays the same.”

The Australian went on to say that anyone looking to introduce their kid to the game of golf, should give them single-length irons to optimize their chances of success.

“I think parents now, for longevity, golf is a sport you can play your entire life, so if you look at that motion that [DeChambeau is] going through there, it’s such an effortless motion. He’s stacked up beautifully. At the end of the day, the motion is so simple through there. So the one-length golf club, in my humble opinion, give a kid at six, seven, eight…get him used to it and he’ll do well.”

Norman won 88 times in his career, including 20 wins on the PGA Tour and two major championship victories. Could the Shark have achieved even more if he had have used single-length irons during his career instead of standard irons?

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  1. Bill

    Dec 12, 2018 at 4:01 pm

    I’ve been playing with 3 lengths in my set. 2,3,4,5 long irons, 6,7,8,9 mid irons, and all wedges the same. # different lengths, 3 different missions and it maximizes the power and control of each group. Single length weakens the long irons because they are too short, mid irons are ok, but single length are too long for control. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

  2. Craig

    Dec 12, 2018 at 3:34 pm

    There will never be a critical mass of people using one length clubs because there are very few teachers of the method.

  3. retired04

    Dec 12, 2018 at 12:38 pm

    Just curious-How many of you naysayers have actually had a set of single length irons in your bag for a 30-90 day get acquainted/get-used-to honest try? Got a feeling the number is close to zero. Kinda changes the picture, doesn’t it?

    I tried them-couldn’t believe the difference once I could wrap my head around the fact that my PW was the same length as my 7 iron-and have never looked back. Any bona fides? Yeah-am 71 and been in and around the golf business since I was 12(repair work at Dad’s course), single digit since high school, college scholarship, rep for years, managed courses….still single digit albeit from shorter tees now. Played blades my hole life other than an occasional experiment, but I was open minded enough to try one length. Got fitted by Cobra rep for lie angle (he came up with the same 2* flat I have always used), some practice, played 2 rounds and sold my Wilson Staffs. Have taken some grief from other players-don’t care because one length is easier.

    My bet-once teachers/parents/players begin to realize the benefits of one length (especially with Cobra’s new blade type TEC Black one length irons), other manufacturers will enter the market-and it will be sooner than most of you expect. Players won’t know until they try them. Have you really tried them?

    Think about it. You irons, the very clubs you use to get it close to the hole-every one is now the same length, lie angle, gram weight, swing weight (mine came from Cobra +/- 2 GRAMS and all exactly D2)-and they all swing the same-rather than 6 or 8 or 9 slightly different swings. Are you kidding me?!?!

    Full disclosure: 1. I do not and have never worked for Cobra; 2. My 2 gap and sand wedges are shorter, BUT ALL 3 ARE THE SAME LENGTH (I have a stockpile of heads); 3. Yes, I tried the old Tommy Armour single length irons-couldn’t get the mid or long irons airborn.

  4. Edward Bardoe

    Dec 12, 2018 at 11:25 am

    the single length idea is for irons that you wish to make the same swing and get different distance. Not drivers or other clubs where maximum distance is the goal (three wood would be the same for non-pros, for the non-talented like me even hybrids) or club played for “touch” or different distance results like wedges. De Chambeaus wedges are allegedly in the single length, but whatever length they are, he chokes up on the grip the 2 inches that would separate a seven iron length from a lob wedge. Basically your single length “set” is 4 to PW.

  5. ogo

    Dec 10, 2018 at 10:31 pm

    Closed comments thread?!!

  6. ogo

    Dec 10, 2018 at 10:27 pm

    …. and played them in the 1996 Masters debacle instead of his Cobras.

  7. Steve

    Dec 10, 2018 at 9:53 pm

    Kids who are ages six through eight do not play with full sets of irons.

  8. ray arcade

    Dec 10, 2018 at 7:03 pm

    What happened to his left hand??

    • Sam Boulden

      Dec 11, 2018 at 4:42 am

      Chainsaw accident a few years ago

    • JD

      Dec 11, 2018 at 8:20 am

      His left hand is on his hip. That’s someone else’s right hand on the edge of the counter.

  9. Tom

    Dec 10, 2018 at 5:16 pm

    You would think a guy who believes in the one -length club theory would have only had one wife, not three?

  10. Tom

    Dec 10, 2018 at 4:45 pm

    This guy talks too much, he is full of it!

  11. Tom

    Dec 10, 2018 at 4:44 pm

    Will he be using one length irons in he father-Son event this week?

  12. Jamie

    Dec 10, 2018 at 12:38 pm

    Still a part-owner of Cobra, Greg? Are you sure that’s not your motivation for saying such things?

  13. Dan

    Dec 10, 2018 at 10:53 am

    Imagine if 1/2 of his 2nd place finishes were 1st place. Not sure single irons could have overcome others luck

    • Peter McGill

      Dec 14, 2018 at 2:56 am

      Luck? If he didn’t shoot those 40’s on the back nines, things would have been very different.

  14. Gun Violent

    Dec 10, 2018 at 10:42 am

    Well of course he says that, he’s still with Cobra! He wouldn’t be able to say it if he was with Titleist or some other company. Duh. He is such a good boy salesperson. Always has been. And he think’s that’s being clever.

    • Commoner

      Dec 10, 2018 at 12:44 pm

      GV’s post is right on the ‘money.’ (Sorry; had to do it.) Where are ethics, principles, morals, et cetera today?

      • Funkaholic

        Dec 12, 2018 at 10:46 am

        When someone offers you the kind of money he is making, then you can judge. you can’t buy a game and the pros know it, brand loyalty is silly nonsense. Nothing unethical about pushing a product that you are paid to rep.

        • A. Commoner

          Dec 12, 2018 at 5:12 pm

          Was not appropriate to time and place.

  15. Blake

    Dec 10, 2018 at 10:42 am

    No he wouldnt. Im sure this isnt influenced at all by his relationship with cobra and them being the only ones pushing single length clubs

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1. Rory’s simple slow play fix
Golf Channel’s Rex Hoggard reporting...”The Northern Irishman has always been one of the most outspoken players when it comes to pace of play on the PGA Tour but enough is enough.”
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