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SPOTTED: Mizuno ST190 and ST190G drivers

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Three Mizuno drivers have recently been added to the USGA Conforming Clubs list: Mizuno ST190 (9.5 degrees), ST190 HL (10.5 degrees) and ST190G. While the image links are currently unavailable on the USGA website, the ST180 and ST190G drivers have been spotted in person at the British Masters.

Judging from the photos, both drivers have Mizuno’s familiar Wave Technology — an accordion-like speed channel seen in the ST180 drivers — and “SP700 Coretech” faces.

The ST190 looks to have a fixed weight in the rear portion of the sole, while the ST190G has a “Fast Track Technology” sliding weight in the heel of the sole; judging by the labeling, that track will help golfers adjust between draw and fade trajectory biases. Surely, the Mizuno ST190 HL was not spotted out at the British Masters because one would assume it’s a “High Launch” product made for those who need more launch; that tends to be higher handicaps rather than Tour pros.

The driver being tested above looks to be equipped with a popular Mitsubishi Tensei Orange shaft. Compared to the ST180 drivers, it’s also clear Mizuno is going away from the blue color scheme to a glossy black look.

Mizuno is not commenting on details/tech at the time, so for now we are left to speculate on the drivers.

See what GolfWRX Members are saying in our forums about the ST190 drivers.

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  1. Bobby

    Oct 26, 2018 at 12:49 pm

    I happened to catch the Mizuno rep yesterday at our local golf shop and he let me hit both of them. They look amazing and feel even better.. both seem very easy to hit and forgiving.. they are going to be unveiled in Orlando in February can’t wait to get fitted for one

  2. Peaknation

    Oct 12, 2018 at 6:43 am

    Anyone else read WINE Technology on the sole?

    • joro

      Oct 12, 2018 at 1:51 pm

      How about WAVE Technology, you know, like the waves of the sole. I have the 180 and it is good, and very calming. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm POW.

  3. Mizzyfan

    Oct 11, 2018 at 10:30 am

    SP700 face is suppose to be made of some high end material other OEM’s use to but stop using because it’s too expensive.

  4. rymail00

    Oct 10, 2018 at 11:57 pm

    I’ve never hit a Mizuno driver (or seen one in person actually) but I think going with the black crown has to make it look better at address. I know its just a visual thing and but a blue head is a bit aggressive even if blue is Mizuno’s color scheme.

    Interested to hear more though.

  5. Tom

    Oct 10, 2018 at 11:43 pm

    WOW, will surely change the game forever!!!

  6. HappyG

    Oct 10, 2018 at 11:11 pm

    Mizuno drivers are so underrated. Just try one I’m sure you’ll be surprised. I went to a driver fitting, tried Callaway, TaylorMade, Ping, and others. The Mizuno ST-180 out performed all of them. Superb.

  7. John

    Oct 10, 2018 at 10:15 pm

    Shame about the shiny crown, will never buy another driver with a reflective crown.

    • 2putttom

      Oct 10, 2018 at 11:43 pm

      last line in the article say’s it all … unless you know something we don’t ?

  8. Wooltron3030@yahoo.com

    Oct 10, 2018 at 9:20 pm

    Wish they would try and make their sliding weights semi good looking instead of just slapping a hunk of metal and a screw together.

  9. Ben

    Oct 10, 2018 at 8:05 pm

    Mizuno rep just visited my golf shop with these drivers today. They will be unveiled at the PGA show in Orlando. Stock shaft will be the Atmos but are saying no upcharge for any shaft they offer. They have gone away from blue, and they look really good.

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2 GolfWRXers put 4 Miura iron models to TrackMan test

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Equipment expert Brian Knudson and WRXer Jackson Elliott had a chance to put four Miura iron models to the test.

See their thoughts on the Miura club testing below, as well as their TrackMan data. For all heads, Knudson uused the Project X 6.0, and Jackson used the Ping AWT 2.0. Knudson is an 8.8 handicap, and Jackson is a 16.

MC-501

 

BN: I love the look of blades, but know they don’t fit my skill level. These looked great with a small footprint, topline, and squared off toe. The back “muscle” has a great look that grabs your attention. The feel of the 501 is Miura soft and very solid. Responsiveness is phenomenal, you can really tell where on the face you made contact. For some reason this was the iron I had the tightest dispersion with, we couldn’t figure out what made that happen!

JE: I thought the 501s looked pretty good, they seemed a little boxier than I’m used to, but the top-down view was by no means a turn-off. The ball exploded off the head when I managed to find center face, but I hit more bad shots than good. Definitely a far cry in terms of forgiveness compared to my game improvement irons, but the extra distance I gained almost makes me think the decreased accuracy is worth it.

IC-601

BN: This is the iron that I was not sure of its identity. It is overall a small profile but has a good amount off offset. Ball speed was great and it might have been the longest of the bunch. I was surprised that the feel was so soft as most hollow designs have a bit of clickiness to them. These were the longest for me by a slight margin and were one of the higher launching heads.

JE: The top ridge of the head looked a little too thick and boxy to me. It was a little distracting at first, but I got used to it after a few swings. I thought the club performed very well. The carry was longer than I was expecting, and I was able to put it near the middle fairway more times than not. In terms of performance, I think this would be the most likely to find its way into my bag.

CB 1008

BN: I have hit these irons previously and they are a great feeling iron. I was very impressed with how soft these irons are, maybe even softer than the MC-501. These irons are great looking as well with the sharper toe and slightly larger footprint than the MC-501. These didn’t blow me away with wild distance or ballspeed numbers, but that isn’t what they were intended for. They are just a really good players iron. The only negative thing I could say would be that they mute a little too much and you have a harder time deciphering where you made contact on the face.

JE: I thought both the 1008 and 2008 looked great, and I’d willingly put either set in my bag right now. I had a very hard time feeling any major differences between the two, but both clubs felt good in my hands. The 2008s seemed to be a bit more forgiving when it came to mishits, and the trackman numbers tended to corroborate that. My carry numbers for both clubs were nearly identical, but a few yards longer than I expected them to be.

CB 2008

BN: These are the big brother to the CB-1008 and they have a slightly more rounded shape. I actually like a slightly more rounded toe, so these fit my eye well. Upon the first impact you can tell these have way more power than the 1008, ball feels like it flies off the face. Forgiveness is far better allowing much better numbers on off center hits. Feel is a slight bit lacking, but for a club of its design really good.

JE: (See previous response)

Dispersion plots, trajectories

Knudson’s dispersion

Knudson’s trajectory

Elliot’s dispersion

Eliot’s trajectory

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Forum Thread of the Day: “Best 3-wood of the newest releases?”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from Kaexo, who asks fellow GolfWRX members for their opinion on what they feel is the best 3 wood of the recent releases. Described as the “hardest spot in the bag to settle on” by one of our members, an array of different 3 woods get a mention in Kaexo’s thread.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Phil6380: “Cobra F8 is the best I’ve hit. Something about those rails when hitting it out of the turf. I have no fear of hitting down when needed. It’s also my most consistent club off the tee BY FAR! I give up a little distance, but when I need to hit a tight fairway, or I’m not hitting my best, that’s the club I’m grabbing.”
  • calfan36: “King LTD is great if you have some speed/launch. Very low spin, very forgiving, and an amazing feel. Also, I love that I can play it shorter and easily add weight via the space port.”
  • aussieb: “The two best fairways of recent releases are the G400 and Epic SZ for different reasons. G400 for forgiveness and great launch conditions from just about any lie, plus it sounds extremely solid.  Might still make my bag if I can find the right shaft combo, the Epic SZ is better for me than the Rogue for adjustability, ball speeds and head shape.  I found it worked off the short grass better than anything, and if I miss the fairway, it’s more likely to be the hybrid or a layup.”
  • ChipNRun: “Reality check: for many golfers, the best 3W is a 4W – slightly shorter shaft for better control, and extra loft to enhance launch.”

Entire Thread: “Best 3 wood of the newest releases?”

 

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Bargain Challenge 2: Putting together a $500 set of clubs for a mid-handicapper

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Last week, I posted about what clubs you can get with $500. I built a set that I would use myself to show that even golfers with particular specs can find what they want for a decent price. Overall the feedback on the post was good, but I did want to follow up since one of the commenters put me up to a challenge. See below.

Well alright James, challenge accepted.

Challenge: A set of mid-handicap clubs with stiff shafts for less than $500.

Driver

Since I was going to be building a set of a mid-handicapper, my goal was to find a driver that got solid distance, but was also forgiving. I found this R9 460 in 10.5 degrees for $65. While the paint has seen better days, this should perform exactly how we want it to. Plus it is adjustable.

Wood

The 3-wood search stumped me for a bit. I couldn’t figure out what I wanted to go with. I knew I didn’t want a strong three wood and I knew I needed something with forgiveness. After some searching I found a Ping K15 16 degree with a stiff shaft. While the loft is higher, I have found that many higher handicap amateurs can find good use out of a higher lofted 3-wood. On top of that, the K15 is an incredibly easy to hit and forgiving head.

Hybrid

I knew what most mid-handicappers would have a hard time hitting a 2 or 3-iron, so my mind immediately went to a 3-iron hybrid. After some searching, I stumbled on this Ping Rapture V2 with a stiff shaft. Historically, the Raptures have been really easy to hit which makes this a great addition to the bag.

Irons

I had the hardest time in this entire process finding irons. There were just too many to choose from. You had great player irons like the Ping S57 and you also had the super game improvement Adams irons. To find something slightly more in the middle, but still easy to hit, I went with the 2012 TaylorMade CBs. A great year for TaylorMade irons and easy to hit with the irons only going down to the 4. This is where someone can have some fun with their choices if they want.

Wedges

Wedge shopping was still hard this time around. Since the PW in the iron set was strong, I knew I needed a stronger gap wedge. I found a Callaway X-Jaws 50-degree for $24. Really, the entire point of the 50 is to have another iron and bridge the gap to the sand wedge. Speaking of the sand wedge, I went with the 56-degree Ping Gorge SS wedge. It has good grooves and will get the job done around the greens. For the lob wedge, I went with the Cleveland RTX 2.0 60 degree: A really solid wedge with good groves to give you the zip you need around the greens.

Putter

And finally, I went with another great blade putter for $55. Honestly, there were a lot of different options in the range from mallets to blades, so don’t be afraid to search around.

Total

In summary, anyone and any skill level and swing speed can find something in the used market. In fact, it was even easier to find clubs in stiff than X-stiff because most X-stiff clubs are custom and are in less demand making, them more rare and expensive than stiff clubs. Take a look, you never know what you may find.

Related: Bargain Challenge: Putting together a set of clubs for $500

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