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Titleist’s new TS2 and TS3 drivers: Tech Talk and Fitting Results
As per Titleist’s standard two-year cycle of metalwoods, it’s been two years since the company launched its 917 drivers and fairway woods. But for some reason, the launch of its new TS2 and TS3 drivers this year feels different than launches of year’s past. Maybe it’s because of the nomenclature shift away from the 900s, or maybe it was the 17 players who put the driver in play the first week possible (including Justin Thomas and Jimmy Walker) at the 2018 U.S. Open, or maybe it’s because Titleist was calling this driver mission the “Titleist Speed Project.” Could Titleist make these drivers faster and longer without giving up forgiveness? And if so, how?
Well, the GolfWRX team traveled to the Titleist Performance Institute in Oceanside, California to find out everything possible about the new TS2 and TS3 drivers. First, we learned everything there is to know about the technology, design, specs, shafts and pricing from Josh Talge, the Vice President of Marketing at Titleist, and Stephanie Luttrell, the Director of Metalwood Development. Then, we put the drivers to the test on Oceanside’s range, as GolfWRX’s Original Content Creator Johnny Wunder received a full fitting from Titleist’s Master Fitting Supervisor Glenn Mahler, comparing his gamer driver to the new Titleist TS2 and TS3 drivers.
The cool part? We had the cameras rolling the entire time. Check out the information, photos and videos below to learn about Titleist’s new TS2 and TS3 drivers.
See what GolfWRX Members are saying about the drivers here.
Tech Talk: Titleist TS2 and TS3 drivers
Why did Titleist get rid of the Active Recoil Channel in the TS2 and TS3 drivers? Find out here.
To summarize, the TS2 and TS3 drivers have a 20 percent thinner titanium crown than the 917 drivers, allowing weight to be placed lower and deeper for lower CG (center of gravity) and higher MOI (moment of inertia, a measure of forgiveness). The faces also use variable thickness for faster ball speeds across the face, and this year, the faces have been made 6 grams lighter.
According to Titleist, the faces are so thin now that the scoring lines have to be lasered onto the faces instead of etched, as with previous generations. With the combination of weight savings from the face and crown, Titleist says these drivers have the lowest CG ever for a Titleist driver, and MOI is 12 percent higher than the 917 drivers.
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Additionally, for more club head speed, Titleist says that enhanced aerodynamic shaping of the club heads that reduces drag by up to 20 percent.
As with the previous Titleist 917 drivers, the TS2 and TS3 will have a SureFit hosel that has 16 independent loft and lie settings. The 460cc TS2 has a fixed CG location, a “high launch, low spin” profile, and is available in 8.5, 9.5, 10.5 and 11.5 degree lofts.
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The TS3 driver, on the other hand, has a SureFit CG weight system that does allow golfers/fitter to adjust for launch characteristics. Also at 460cc, the TS3 driver has a “mid launch, low spin” profile, and is available in 8.5, 9.5 and 10.5 degree lofts.
Stock shafts include Mitsubishi’s Kuro Kage Black Dual Core 50, Mitsubishi’s Tensei AV Series Blue 55, Project X’s HZRDUS Smoke Black 60, and Project X’s Even Flow T1100 White 65. Each of the drivers will be available on Sept. 28, and will sell for $499.
To find a free fitting or trial event near you, click here.
The Full Fitting: Could the TS2 or TS3 beat Johnny’s gamer?
See what GolfWRX Members are saying about the drivers here.
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- Alejandro Tosti what’s in the bag accurate as of the Zurich Classic.
Driver: Srixon ZX5 Mk II LS (9.5 degrees @10.5)
Shaft: Project X HZRDUS T1100 75 6.5
3-wood: TaylorMade Qi10 Tour
Shaft: Project X HZRDUS Black 80 TX
Hybrid: TaylorMade Qi10 Tour Rescue (22 degrees)
Shaft: Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 6.5 100
Irons: Srixon ZX7 Mk II (4-PW)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Mid Tour Issue X100
Wedges: Cleveland RTX6 ZipCore Tour Rack (50-10 MID, 54-10 MID, 58-10 MID, 60-06 LOW)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Mid Tour Issue X100, S400
Putter: Scotty Cameron
Grips: Golf Pride MCC Plus4
Check out more in-hand photos of Alejandro Tosti’s WITB in the forums.
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Driver: TaylorMade Stealth 2 Plus (10.5 degrees)
Mini driver: TaylorMade BRNR Mini Copper (13.5 degrees)
5-wood: TaylorMade Stealth Plus (19 degrees)
Irons: TaylorMade P790 (4-8, PW), TaylorMade P760 (9)
Wedges: TaylorMade MG Hi-Toe (52-09, 56-10, 60)
Putter: Scotty Cameron Select Newport 2 Prototype
Check out more in-hand photos of Drew Brees’ clubs here.
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We always get some great photos of some phenomenal putters at tour events and love to share them. Here are a few from the 2024 Zurich Classic that caught our eye and seemed interesting. (And as a reminder, you can check out all our photos from New Orleans here)
MJ Daffue’s Scotty Cameron T-11 Prototype
MJ is going with the new Scotty Cameron T-11 Prototype this week. The putter is a multi-piece mallet that puts an emphasis on stability with the wings on the back. Daffue’s putter does have a design that differs from retail with a monotone finish, which eliminates the black paint on the aluminum parts that we see at retail. He also has a half siteline milled into the top and an L-neck welded on for some additional toe hang. The face features a deeper milling that should offer a softer feel and slightly quieter sound.
Scotty Cameron T-7.5 Prototype
We spotted a few different Scotty Cameron Phantom models with modified rear flanges. It looks like the straight black flange was cut into a half circle for a little softer look at address. On this T-7.5, you can still see the raw aluminum from the back view, so this might have been a last-minute job to get them out on tour. The semi-circle also has a white line on it, maybe to frame the ball differently.
Alex Fitzpatrick’s Bettinardi SS16 DASS
Alex’s SS16 is made from Bettinardi’s famous D.A.S.S., or double-aged stainless steel, for a softer and more responsive feel. The face has a unique diamond pattern milling and features a logo that I feel like I have seen before, but can’t put a name to. The putter is a classic mid-mallet style with a simple, single white siteline on the top. The sole is clean with just the SS16, DASS, and a green triangle logo on it.
Steve Stricker’s Odyssey White Hot No. 2
This putter has made some amazing putts in its long career! Stricker’s White Hot No. 2 might be in the top 10 of most famous putters in golf. When you see all the dents and lead tape, you know the heel will be up and it will be sinking putts! The soft White Hot insert looks to be in good shape and has less wear on it than the rest of the putter. We don’t know how much lead tape is on the sole, but it has to be multiple layers compacted down over the years.
Doug Ghim’s Scotty Cameron T-7 Prototype
This T-7 should win the award for “best color finish” in this list with its deep chromatic bronze. It looks like Scotty added a cherry bomb dot to the heel of the deep-milled face and filled it with a very dark blue paint. The rest of the putter looks pretty stock with its single site line on the topline and twin site lines down the “fangs” of the putter. Twin 5-gram weights are installed in the sole and the putter is finished off with a gloss black double bend shaft with a fill shaft offset.
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Alejandro Tosti what’s in the bag accurate as of the Zurich Classic. Driver: Srixon ZX5 Mk II LS (9.5 degrees...
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Jay
Feb 24, 2019 at 4:56 pm
I’d like to see Johnny hit his SLDR with that Blueboard. It’s all about the shaft! The TS are good looking drivers I must say.
Max
Sep 25, 2018 at 1:37 pm
How can you work for Golfwrx and still game a SLDR? C’mon, man!
Tom
Sep 7, 2018 at 4:25 pm
Uncle Rico is taking bets that he can hit a ball with these drivers over them there mountains!
Dyson Bochambeau
Sep 9, 2018 at 11:39 am
you could be in a hot tub with your soulmate by now
John S
Sep 7, 2018 at 8:49 am
A thinner face and longer shaft… lol…. revolutionary! What a joke
JasonHolmes
Sep 6, 2018 at 7:52 pm
So a five year old gamer got beat out by a professionally fitted current model?
No kidding.
Craap
Sep 7, 2018 at 1:00 am
LOL
Tom
Sep 6, 2018 at 7:17 pm
WOW so new and different from the last model! Will probably will add at least 50 to 100 yards more carry to each drive!!! You will need to chip back to all the greens on long par fours you airmail from the tee?
Ty
Sep 7, 2018 at 6:33 am
That was funny. These companies think we are mental and are going to buy into all the baloney they keep spouting.
golfsmask
Sep 26, 2018 at 11:39 pm
I always like to leave comments whenever I see something impressive. I appreciate your expert article!
Charles Clarkly
Sep 6, 2018 at 5:23 pm
Who’s that LPGA’er Canadian gal, Brooke, that swings what looks to be a 65″ shaft? She’s what, 5’4″, and she CRUSHES IT!!
Boyo
Sep 7, 2018 at 8:50 am
Choking down 5 inches.
stevet
Sep 6, 2018 at 3:55 pm
“…lower CG (center of gravity) and higher MOI (moment of inertia, a measure of forgiveness)…”. NO… it’s lower CM (center of mass) and higher MOI (moment of inertia, a measure of inertial resistance) …!!!!
halensmith
Sep 24, 2018 at 3:13 am
Great article for the beginners like us . I am a new in this game and enjoying the adventure
ron
Sep 6, 2018 at 3:49 pm
Great new drivers for the Tour players… and gearheads who only look at their WITB fantasy gonadal arsenal of weapons.
Andy LaCombe
Sep 6, 2018 at 1:36 pm
Awesome piece – was a blast to watch the discussion and then the fitting. Thanks!
dat
Sep 6, 2018 at 1:32 pm
what is the HZRDUS Smoke? Just a new shaft finish or an actual new shaft?
james
Sep 9, 2018 at 7:15 am
Special made in China cheap shaft for morons who think its the same made in San Diego shaft the pros use
Aaron
Sep 6, 2018 at 12:49 pm
Tripod camera was much better than the jiggling handheld.
Jerry
Sep 6, 2018 at 11:06 am
TS2 looks like Taylormade R9 Supertri
Craaap
Sep 6, 2018 at 12:44 pm
Because it is. A copy.
JP
Sep 6, 2018 at 2:42 pm
They all are to some extent. How much different can you make a driver with so many having been designed in past years? The newest driver is bound to share some characteristics with older models.
Don’t like it, don’t buy it.
BirdieBouy18
Sep 6, 2018 at 10:41 am
How many degrees up or down does a SureFit adapter allow?
ron
Sep 6, 2018 at 3:51 pm
12º… all the way from the LD to duffer lofts … 😮
Richard Douglas
Sep 6, 2018 at 10:22 am
Not sure I see the value proposition for upgrading from the 917D2.
Dave
Sep 6, 2018 at 10:16 am
finally a fitter with a 44.5 inch playing shaft. all fitters in my area ever never have anything other than stock even though most should be playing much shorter….im 6 3 and 44.5 is my length how the hell can a guy at 5’6″ play a 45.5 inch shaft with consistency.
Doug
Sep 6, 2018 at 10:28 am
Exactly on the “long” shafts!
Boyo
Sep 7, 2018 at 8:52 am
Dave’s not home…
Forrester
Sep 6, 2018 at 10:41 am
The theoretical 5’6″ guy has a better, more consistently repeatable swing than you?
Craaap
Sep 6, 2018 at 12:46 pm
Sure, Dave, if you also want to hit it shorter.
golfraven
Sep 8, 2018 at 4:48 pm
Been gaming a 44.5” 913 D3 and after the TS fitting I still walked away with half an inch shorter club but this time at 45”. Its about consistency and I have not seen much of dispersion. So I rather get the ball speed up with that 0.5 inch and maybe an iron less to the green. However, anything above 45” is just bs for folks under 6 feet