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Want to be an elite junior golfer? Play a shorter and easier home course

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Let’s start with a thought experiment: You’re building a long-term plan with your parents to become a world-class golfer. You create a list. How important is being a member of a nice golf course? Is it worth the money to join somewhere swanky, or will the local muni do?

If you are like most junior golfers I have spoken to, facilities matter, and you want to be a member of that 7400-yard course with perfect greens. Based on this preference, I wanted to look at the data; what type of courses produce PGA Tour players? What can we learn from them? With the help of many of my friends in golf, I started to compile a list of PGA Tour players and their home golf courses when they were between 12-16 years old.

Here is what I came up with

  • Justin Thomas – Harmony Landing: 6,645 (130 course rating)
  • Justin Rose – North Hants: 6,250
  • Brooks Koepka – Bear Lakes: 7,439 (141)
  • Jordan Spieth – Brookhaven: 6,820 (133)
  • Rory McIlroy – Hollywood Golf Club: 6,056
  • Bubba Watson – Tanglewood Golf Club: 6,302 (124)
  • Phil Mickelson – Stardust: 6,550 (126)
  • Zach Johnson – Elmhurst: 6,500 (128)
  • Webb Simpson – Raleigh Golf: 6,869 (135)
  • Bryson DeChambeau – Dragon Fly: 7,273 (135)
  • Ryan Moore – The Classic: 6,903 (134)
  • Tiger Woods – Navy Golf Course: 6,780 (129)
  • Ollie Sciednerjans – Bentwater: 6,741 (142)
  • Xander Schauffele – Bernardo Heights: 6,679 (131)
  • Chez Reavie – Dobson Ranch: 6,630 (121)
  • Patrick Cantlay – Virginia Country Club: 6,633 (130)
  • Jason Dufner – Weston Hills: 7,060 (129)
  • Adam Hadwin – Morgan Creek: 6,948 (136)
  • Emiliano Grillio -Chaco Golf Club: 6,749 (130)
  • Charles Howell III – Augusta Country Club: 7,125 (136)
  • Julian Suri – South Hampton: 7,028 (138)
  • Aaron Wise – Eagle Glen: 6,869 (139)
  • Peter Uihlein – IMG Academy: 6,842 (136)
  • Brandon Stone – Centurion: 6,830 (131)

Starting to notice something? Based on the data of these 24 PGA Tour players, their average home course has a yardage of 6,772 and slope of 132. Wowzers! Can’t believe it? It makes perfect sense: To be competitive in golf, you must shoot under par. Shooting under par, like riding a bike, or walking, or writing, is a skill. It is developed through a combination of repetition and feedback.

Easier golf courses allow players the opportunity to shoot lower scores and build confidence. Over time, these skills become habit. When players enter tournaments, it is more likely they shoot under par. Breaking par at your home golf course is only the first step towards becoming an elite junior golfer. The data suggests that players (both boys and girls) need to average approximately 69 per round to win on the AJGA — on 6,800-yard courses for boys and just under 6,000 yards for girls.

No major championship venue has ever had a junior member go on to win, or even play, the PGA Tour. That’s right: the PGA Tour is not filled with junior members from Augusta National. Why? Because while playing Shinnecock Hills is an absolute treat, the course is extremely difficult, and 74 is a great score. Junior members at such courses create habits of shooting 74, and when they enter tournaments, like the AJGA, in general, they get beat.

So where should you be a member if you are a junior golfer with aspirations of college golf or beyond? Great question. In an ideal world the course would have the following:

  1. Unlimited access to a facility that is approximately 6,700 yards long with a slope of about 130. The goal on this golf course is to break par often and work towards a handicap of +3 by your 18th birthday.
  2. Somewhere with other talented players. Although, it would be great if they are other juniors, more importantly you want players of about the same skill who will offer you a competitive match a couple times a week.

As always, if you have any feedback on this article or a story idea, please feel free to reach out to me! Always love hearing from people and helping them connect with schools that meet their academic, athletic, social and financial needs!

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Brendan Ryan, an entrepreneur and scientist, is a passionate golfer who loves his local muni. Armed with a keen interest in the game, a large network of friends in the industry, Brendan works to find and produce unique content for GolfWRX.

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  1. Craig

    Oct 6, 2018 at 7:23 am

    I totally agree with this article. I remember watching the doco The Short Game and those kids were playing ridiculously short courses (3000 yrds), but they learned to go low. I compare to my own junior experience playing off the back tees as a 10 year old, breaking 80 was a miracle, let along 70, when you can only drive it 180 yds on a 400 yd hole. Getting close to shooting par was as stressful as shooting 59.

  2. R k

    Sep 18, 2018 at 12:25 pm

    Nicely done. One must walk before run.

  3. Pissant

    Sep 18, 2018 at 1:37 am

    Completely meaningless article

  4. Scheiss

    Sep 18, 2018 at 1:36 am

    That’s HOLYwood, not Hollywood, ya Yankee moron

  5. Ryan

    Sep 17, 2018 at 9:57 pm

    Since when is a 130 ish 6700 ish course easy?

    Also you are averaging a data set with a huge standard deviation… 7400 on the top end and 6000 on the short end that is a +/- of 700 yards for a total difference of 1400 yards! You can’t draw any conclusions from this data.

  6. Timothy Ahline

    Sep 17, 2018 at 4:17 pm

    Zach Johnson grew up playing Elmcrest Country Club in Cedar Rapids Iowa not Elmhurst

  7. Brandon

    Sep 17, 2018 at 2:55 pm

    Webb Simpson didn’t grow up on Raleigh golf.

    • Reid Thompson

      Oct 5, 2018 at 12:29 pm

      Agreed, pretty sure it was Carolina. Which tips out at 6200 ish. Interesting.

  8. John

    Sep 17, 2018 at 1:00 pm

    Cool article. I don’t have personal experience but I’ve been around enough elite players who have and they all agree, it’s a real thing to get to -4 to -7 and feel comfortable, and getting that comfort at a young age cannot hurt. Obviously I think the perfect situation is to grow up on a course with maybe 12 holes are really “getable”, and 6 of them are stout “par” holes.

  9. JS

    Sep 17, 2018 at 10:53 am

    I have two identical players. One plays a longer, harder course where 74 is a great score and once plays a shorter, easier course where 68 is a good score. According to this article, the player on the easier course will be better prepared for Tour by virtue of being accustomed to breaking par. There’s nothing in the article to support that conclusion.

    First, the article doesn’t show what these golfers shot on those courses. For all the reader knows, some of the golfers on the longer, harder courses could have been breaking par and the some of the golfers on the shorter, easier courses were not breaking par.

    Second, the golfers on the longer, harder could have played from a forward tee, which would make the course both shorter and easier.

    Third, perhaps the reason golfers on shorter courses do better is because they have more opportunity to play shots that are important to scoring. For example, perhaps the short course golfers hit approach shots with wedges and short irons, which are more important to scoring due to ability to hit shots close to the flag, whereas the long course golfers hit approach shots with hybrids and long irons, which are less important to scoring due to the difficulty in shots close to the flag (Even the PGA Tour leader in proximity to the hole from 175-200yd averages a 27′ first putt).

    • A. Commoner

      Sep 17, 2018 at 2:15 pm

      JS raises some valid questions. Overall, I just consider such “insightful” writing as confirmation of the old axiom: “paper will hold still for anything.”

    • Jack

      Sep 18, 2018 at 3:11 am

      I think it’s more start from the shorter tees, and get used to scoring well, and slowly move outwards. Rather than start from the blue tees and shoot 80. Go from the red tees and shoot 70 or lower. Then slowly move to the whites.

      Basically what the author is trying to say. Not just play short courses forever. I don’t know why so many are missing his perfectly logical article.

  10. GK

    Sep 17, 2018 at 1:08 am

    I don’t disagree and it’s an interesting theory as I’ve wondered what is important in courses for juniors. In fairness, Shinnecock, like many major championship venues, probably doesn’t have the best junior program that gives a lot of access to aspiring young players. I would imagine many of these courses would have forward tee options that would meet your suggested criteria but the culture of some of these clubs (And a smaller pool of players) may have a bigger role in the lack of players from major championship venues.

    Although no current PGA players, Olympic has had Johnny Miller, Bob Rosburg and Michael Allen who were junior members that played on tour. It is interesting to note that Miler often states that he developed many skills at the nearby San Francisco Club which kind of fits the criteria you advocate although developing future tour players isn’t their MO.

    Finally, although those courses listed aren’t LA North or Oakland Hills, they aren’t exactly push over courses w/ most slopes in the 130s especially for 12-16 year olds. (I guess right balance b/t challenging and not too challenging). I played golf w/ a D1 head coach from an elite university a few years ago and asked a similar question. Although he didn’t specify re: slope/length b/c he wasn’t asked & that he wished that it wasn’t this way, but most of the kids he recruited were members of a private club.

  11. TwoLegsMcManus

    Sep 16, 2018 at 10:29 pm

    Calculating averages is fine – it’s a good skill to have. Drawing conclusions from “average”, however, does not always make sense. Only a small percentage of people, for example, are exactly average height – even fewer are exactly average weight.

    Two of the longest hitters in golf – Keopka and McIlroy – illustrate the problem. Brooks’ course was 7439, Rory’s 6056. That averages to 6747, but that number says nothing about either course. How often did these players actually play their home course? The course where I “keep my (online) handicap is one I haven’t played in years.

    I think an elite junior golfer would be best served playing a variety of courses; long, short, trees, links, high-end, cheap… and vary their choice of tees to create different challenges. Sticking to one course would seem to be key to be that club’s champion, but not necessarily a game that will translate.

  12. Prime21

    Sep 16, 2018 at 9:39 pm

    Andrew Svoboda played out of Winged Foot. Spend a little more time on research prior to making blanket statements, as a writer, that is part of your job.

  13. Matt Ball

    Sep 16, 2018 at 9:12 pm

    Brendan, Meadowbrook CC outside Richmond at about 6,600 yards par 71 produced Lanny and Bobby Watkins and John Rollins. 3 kids in recent years have gone on to division 1 scholarships. This club has no time restrictions for juniors to play even weekends. Course record 59 just shot by one of those scholarship players now on mini tours. Your article I believe is dead on.

    • Point misser

      Sep 17, 2018 at 7:36 pm

      Lanny & Bobby Wadkins. And that kid who shot 59 needs to tuck in his shirt tail and tighten up his act now that he’s a “pro”

      • Point Misser Missed The Point

        Sep 18, 2018 at 5:30 am

        Shut up Point Misser you moron and tuck your tail in between your legs

  14. Peter

    Sep 16, 2018 at 8:52 pm

    I had a 15 year old girl send me her info last week and she listed her eagles. One hole stated she had driver,sw,putt. Maybe that is overdoing it on the shorter, easier home course?

    • Bryan Montgomery

      Sep 16, 2018 at 9:47 pm

      There is a lot that can be learned from shorter courses. Tour players on the LPGA and PGA have amazing short games. If you are use to playing a course that has you playing long and mid irons at all times you are not getting the wedge work that players on the shorter courses are. This article does a great job of scraping the surface of the data that is available. I would not shy away from someone who is playing a shorter course because in my experience it is easier to teach long game management over the touch that is needed in the short game.

    • Looper

      Sep 17, 2018 at 12:01 pm

      Completely agree Peter. What about talent and skill?

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Vincenzi’s 2024 Zurich Classic of New Orleans betting preview

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The PGA TOUR heads to New Orleans to play the 2023 Zurich Classic of New Orleans. In a welcome change from the usual stroke play, the Zurich Classic is a team event. On Thursday and Saturday, the teams play best ball, and on Friday and Sunday the teams play alternate shot.

TPC Louisiana is a par 72 that measures 7,425 yards. The course features some short par 4s and plenty of water and bunkers, which makes for a lot of exciting risk/reward scenarios for competitors. Pete Dye designed the course in 2004 specifically for the Zurich Classic, although the event didn’t make its debut until 2007 because of Hurricane Katrina.

Coming off of the Masters and a signature event in consecutive weeks, the field this week is a step down, and understandably so. Many of the world’s top players will be using this time to rest after a busy stretch.

However, there are some interesting teams this season with some stars making surprise appearances in the team event. Some notable teams include Patrick Cantlay and Xander Schauffele, Rory McIlroy and Shane Lowry, Collin Morikawa and Kurt Kitayama, Will Zalatoris and Sahith Theegala as well as a few Canadian teams, Nick Taylor and Adam Hadwin and Taylor Pendrith and Corey Conners.

Past Winners at TPC Louisiana

  • 2023: Riley/Hardy (-30)
  • 2022: Cantlay/Schauffele (-29)
  • 2021: Leishman/Smith (-20)
  • 2019: Palmer/Rahm (-26)
  • 2018: Horschel/Piercy (-22)
  • 2017: Blixt/Smith (-27)

2024 Zurich Classic of New Orleans Picks

Tom Hoge/Maverick McNealy +2500 (DraftKings)

Tom Hoge is coming off of a solid T18 finish at the RBC Heritage and finished T13 at last year’s Zurich Classic alongside Harris English.

This season, Hoge is having one of his best years on Tour in terms of Strokes Gained: Approach. In his last 24 rounds, the only player to top him on the category is Scottie Scheffler. Hoge has been solid on Pete Dye designs, ranking 28th in the field over his past 36 rounds.

McNealy is also having a solid season. He’s finished T6 at the Waste Management Phoenix Open and T9 at the PLAYERS Championship. He recently started working with world renowned swing coach, Butch Harmon, and its seemingly paid dividends in 2024.

Keith Mitchell/Joel Dahmen +4000 (DraftKings)

Keith Mitchell is having a fantastic season, finishing in the top-20 of five of his past seven starts on Tour. Most recently, Mitchell finished T14 at the Valero Texas Open and gained a whopping 6.0 strokes off the tee. He finished 6th at last year’s Zurich Classic.

Joel Dahmen is having a resurgent year and has been dialed in with his irons. He also has a T11 finish at the PLAYERS Championship at TPC Sawgrass which is another Pete Dye track. With Mitchell’s length and Dahmen’s ability to put it close with his short irons, the Mitchell/Dahmen combination will be dangerous this week.

Taylor Moore/Matt NeSmith +6500 (DraftKings)

Taylor Moore has quickly developed into one of the more consistent players on Tour. He’s finished in the top-20 in three of his past four starts, including a very impressive showing at The Masters, finishing T20. He’s also finished T4 at this event in consecutive seasons alongside Matt NeSmith.

NeSmith isn’t having a great 2024, but has seemed to elevate his game in this format. He finished T26 at Pete Dye’s TPC Sawgrass, which gives the 30-year-old something to build off of. NeSmith is also a great putter on Bermudagrass, which could help elevate Moore’s ball striking prowess.

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Vincenzi’s 2024 LIV Adelaide betting preview: Cam Smith ready for big week down under

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After having four of the top twelve players on the leaderboard at The Masters, LIV Golf is set for their fifth event of the season: LIV Adelaide. 

For both LIV fans and golf fans in Australia, LIV Adelaide is one of the most anticipated events of the year. With 35,000 people expected to attend each day of the tournament, the Grange Golf Club will be crawling with fans who are passionate about the sport of golf. The 12th hole, better known as “the watering hole”, is sure to have the rowdiest of the fans cheering after a long day of drinking some Leishman Lager.  

The Grange Golf Club is a par-72 that measures 6,946 yards. The course features minimal resistance, as golfers went extremely low last season. In 2023, Talor Gooch shot consecutive rounds of 62 on Thursday and Friday, giving himself a gigantic cushion heading into championship Sunday. Things got tight for a while, but in the end, the Oklahoma State product was able to hold off The Crushers’ Anirban Lahiri for a three-shot victory. 

The Four Aces won the team competition with the Range Goats finishing second. 

*All Images Courtesy of LIV Golf*

Past Winners at LIV Adelaide

  • 2023: Talor Gooch (-19)

Stat Leaders Through LIV Miami

Green in Regulation

  1. Richard Bland
  2. Jon Rahm
  3. Paul Casey

Fairways Hit

  1. Abraham Ancer
  2. Graeme McDowell
  3. Henrik Stenson

Driving Distance

  1. Bryson DeChambeau
  2. Joaquin Niemann
  3. Dean Burmester

Putting

  1. Cameron Smith
  2. Louis Oosthuizen
  3. Matt Jones

2024 LIV Adelaide Picks

Cameron Smith +1400 (DraftKings)

When I pulled up the odds for LIV Adelaide, I was more than a little surprised to see multiple golfers listed ahead of Cameron Smith on the betting board. A few starts ago, Cam finished runner-up at LIV Hong Kong, which is a golf course that absolutely suits his eye. Augusta National in another course that Smith could roll out of bed and finish in the top-ten at, and he did so two weeks ago at The Masters, finishing T6.

At Augusta, he gained strokes on the field on approach, off the tee (slightly), and of course, around the green and putting. Smith able to get in the mix at a major championship despite coming into the week feeling under the weather tells me that his game is once again rounding into form.

The Grange Golf Club is another course that undoubtedly suits the Australian. Smith is obviously incredibly comfortable playing in front of the Aussie faithful and has won three Australian PGA Championship’s. The course is very short and will allow Smith to play conservative off the tee, mitigating his most glaring weakness. With birdies available all over the golf course, there’s a chance the event turns into a putting contest, and there’s no one on the planet I’d rather have in one of those than Cam Smith.

Louis Oosthuizen +2200 (DraftKings)

Louis Oosthuizen has simply been one of the best players on LIV in the 2024 seas0n. The South African has finished in the top-10 on the LIV leaderboard in three of his five starts, with his best coming in Jeddah, where he finished T2. Perhaps more impressively, Oosthuizen finished T7 at LIV Miami, which took place at Doral’s “Blue Monster”, an absolutely massive golf course. Given that Louis is on the shorter side in terms of distance off the tee, his ability to play well in Miami shows how dialed he is with the irons this season.

In addition to the LIV finishes, Oosthuizen won back-to-back starts on the DP World Tour in December at the Alfred Dunhill Championship and the Mauritus Open. He also finished runner-up at the end of February in the International Series Oman. The 41-year-old has been one of the most consistent performers of 2024, regardless of tour.

For the season, Louis ranks 4th on LIV in birdies made, T9 in fairways hit and first in putting. He ranks 32nd in driving distance, but that won’t be an issue at this short course. Last season, he finished T11 at the event, but was in decent position going into the final round but fell back after shooting 70 while the rest of the field went low. This season, Oosthuizen comes into the event in peak form, and the course should be a perfect fit for his smooth swing and hot putter this week.

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The Wedge Guy: What really makes a wedge work? Part 1

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Of all the clubs in our bags, wedges are almost always the simplest in construction and, therefore, the easiest to analyze what might make one work differently from another if you know what to look for.

Wedges are a lot less mysterious than drivers, of course, as the major brands are working with a lot of “pixie dust” inside these modern marvels. That’s carrying over more to irons now, with so many new models featuring internal multi-material technologies, and almost all of them having a “badge” or insert in the back to allow more complex graphics while hiding the actual distribution of mass.

But when it comes to wedges, most on the market today are still single pieces of molded steel, either cast or forged into that shape. So, if you look closely at where the mass is distributed, it’s pretty clear how that wedge is going to perform.

To start, because of their wider soles, the majority of the mass of almost any wedge is along the bottom third of the clubhead. So, the best wedge shots are always those hit between the 2nd and 5th grooves so that more mass is directly behind that impact. Elite tour professionals practice incessantly to learn to do that consistently, wearing out a spot about the size of a penny right there. If impact moves higher than that, the face is dramatically thinner, so smash factor is compromised significantly, which reduces the overall distance the ball will fly.

Every one of us, tour players included, knows that maddening shot that we feel a bit high on the face and it doesn’t go anywhere, it’s not your fault.

If your wedges show a wear pattern the size of a silver dollar, and centered above the 3rd or 4th groove, you are not getting anywhere near the same performance from shot to shot. Robot testing proves impact even two to three grooves higher in the face can cause distance loss of up to 35 to 55 feet with modern ‘tour design’ wedges.

In addition, as impact moves above the center of mass, the golf club principle of gear effect causes the ball to fly higher with less spin. Think of modern drivers for a minute. The “holy grail” of driving is high launch and low spin, and the driver engineers are pulling out all stops to get the mass as low in the clubhead as possible to optimize this combination.

Where is all the mass in your wedges? Low. So, disregarding the higher lofts, wedges “want” to launch the ball high with low spin – exactly the opposite of what good wedge play requires penetrating ball flight with high spin.

While almost all major brand wedges have begun putting a tiny bit more thickness in the top portion of the clubhead, conventional and modern ‘tour design’ wedges perform pretty much like they always have. Elite players learn to hit those crisp, spinny penetrating wedge shots by spending lots of practice time learning to consistently make contact low in the face.

So, what about grooves and face texture?

Grooves on any club can only do so much, and no one has any material advantage here. The USGA tightly defines what we manufacturers can do with grooves and face texture, and modern manufacturing techniques allow all of us to push those limits ever closer. And we all do. End of story.

Then there’s the topic of bounce and grinds, the most complex and confusing part of the wedge formula. Many top brands offer a complex array of sole configurations, all of them admittedly specialized to a particular kind of lie or turf conditions, and/or a particular divot pattern.

But if you don’t play the same turf all the time, and make the same size divot on every swing, how would you ever figure this out?

The only way is to take any wedge you are considering and play it a few rounds, hitting all the shots you face and observing the results. There’s simply no other way.

So, hopefully this will inspire a lively conversation in our comments section, and I’ll chime in to answer any questions you might have.

And next week, I’ll dive into the rest of the wedge formula. Yes, shafts, grips and specifications are essential, too.

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