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TESTING: Fujikura Atmos “Tour Spec” Red vs Atmos Red driver shafts

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For an average golfer, what’s the difference between a regular Fujikura Atmos Red shaft and a “Tour Spec” Atmos Red? That’s what we wanted to find out.

In our new club testing series, average golfers will be hitting either different shafts or different club heads, testing them against each other. The process will simply be to hit an equal number of shots with each shaft or club head, eliminating any outliers, and then report the numbers. These are all one-variable tests. Since the club tests are all done at Club Champion in Royal Oak, Michigan, the testing is under direct supervision of professional fitters.

First, some information about both shafts in this test.

Fujikura Atmos Tour Spec Red 6S facts

Fuji says: “New for 2017, the Atmos Tour Spec line is geared towards the performance golfer looking to keep the ball flighted down with low spin. Continuing with our iconic ‘Tour Spec white’ paint, Atmos is a true tour flighted line of shafts with a simple color coding – red as the higher launching, blue as mid launch, black as the lowest launch – similarities include keeping the handle flexes the same for feel, but adjusting mid and tip sections for launch and spin to achieve your desired ball flight.”

Specs 

Fujikura Atmos Red 6S facts

Fuji says: “New for 2018, we’re excited to introduce the higher launching and softer profile Atmos. The Atmos has a similar design profile to the Tour Spec version, but is geared towards fitting a wider spectrum of golfers. The Atmos has a consistent, smooth feel, and has the red launch profile to signify the higher flight and spin… the blue profile is for mid launch and spin performance.”

Specs

The Test

We had two testers each hit the Fujikura Atmos Red Tour Spec 6S against a Fujikura Atmos Red 6S. Player A is a lefty and a 17-handicap. Player B is a righty and a 9-handicap. Both fight shots to the left (one being a slice, one being a hook, respectively). Here’s what happened when they both hit the shafts:

Player A

 Atmos Red TS Red 6SAtmos Red 6S
Club Speed91.6 mph91.4 mph
Ball Speed128.3 mph127.1 mph
Smash factor1.401.39
Spin Rate5339 rpm5194 rpm
Side129.8 L143.9L
Launch14.8 degrees16.0 degrees
Carry186.6 yards185 yards
Total198.4 yards196.1 yards
Height92 feet97 feet
Attack Angle-3.6 degrees-3.4 degrees

Player B

 Atmos TS Red 6SAtmos Red 6S
Club Speed103.4 mph104.3 mph
Ball Speed150.2 mph150.8 mph
Smash Factor1.45 1.44
Spin Rate2652 rpm2915 rpm
Side74.1 L65.8 L
Launch Angle12.1 degrees11.4 degrees
Carry246.5 yards242.7 yards
Total272.0 yards267.2 yards
Height88 feet89 feet
Attack Angle-0.9 degrees-2.0
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  1. Jim Giles

    Aug 24, 2018 at 12:03 pm

    I was curious on the significant change in Attack Angle for Player B . Did the shaft cause this ? Cuz I am no expert, but wouldn’t that have a lot to do with the resulting Launch Angle (thus flight) being so different. Player B’s stats confused me.

  2. Someone

    Aug 24, 2018 at 11:19 am

    Need more data. Greater sample size. Two players is insignificant especially considering the skill gap.

  3. Bark Chuck

    Aug 24, 2018 at 1:31 am

    Did I miss the type of club head, loft, etc.?

  4. CrashTestDummy

    Aug 24, 2018 at 1:25 am

    For any strong consistent swings, the standard Atmos Red will feel like a noodle and most likely have poor dispersion groupings compared to the TS Atmos Red. Those shafts are polar opposites in specs except for the name.

  5. james

    Aug 23, 2018 at 3:59 pm

    Based on these numbers, one would think the stock shaft is really, really good!. why spend $300+ for the tour spec? does not seem worth it.

  6. Kevin

    Aug 23, 2018 at 1:01 pm

    So even a “mid” and a “high” handicap golfer hit the tour spec shaft further…minimally, but further. If this is truly legit data it would seem there is no need to make both versions. Just make the tour spec and let everyone hit it a little further…

    • Jim Giles

      Aug 24, 2018 at 12:01 pm

      for a Manufacturer in making it, your comment is correct… .but for a consumer, these things are hundreds of dollars different. So I think it provides validation that for the weekend golfer you don’t need to spend $$$ on the Tour Spec shaft to get similar results.

      • Josh

        Aug 25, 2018 at 1:00 am

        Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding

      • The Club Nut

        Sep 3, 2018 at 12:00 pm

        They’re really not that different in price. If youre comparing the Atmos that comes “stock” in the M4 with the shaft they tested, you’d be comparing two different shafts. The graphics may be more similar than any Fujikura stock offering in recent years, but the final product is different. Having physically tested a stick Atmos red and an aftermarket Atmos red, the stock option is lighter flex (at same marked rating) and more tip soft.

  7. Picky

    Aug 23, 2018 at 11:49 am

    You lost me at .620 butt diameter. I’m not spending hundreds of dollars on a shaft that I can’t have a standard size cord grip on.

    • The Club Nut

      Sep 3, 2018 at 12:01 pm

      You can stretch it, or have an undersize built up to standard.

  8. Dan

    Aug 23, 2018 at 11:31 am

    This is a tiny sample size and TXG did a better version of this where they show how it affects the flight

  9. Francis

    Aug 23, 2018 at 11:31 am

    Love this concept. I know you said that the object of the experiment was for “average” golfers, but it would have been even more interesting if you threw in a scratch since the TS is designed for “performance golfer.” I would have liked to have seen the performance difference (if any) between the three handicap levels. Great work!

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Ping Blueprint irons are officially coming to retail

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After what has been much speculation they are here: Ping’s Blueprint forged blades.

Born from the idea of creating a club for the most exacting of golfers, Ping meticulously prototyped and tested in house with their tour staff and other highly skilled players on everything from preferred shots, grind, to blade size and shape. When it comes to shape, the Blueprints are one of the smallest blades on the market, but there’s some reasoning behind this.

From Ping:

“After extensive in-house research with varying head sizes, the findings revealed the theory of “aim small, miss small” was validated by many of the highly skilled players in the test, who produced tighter stat areas when hitting the more compact head.”

Only the bravest golfer will take on this 2-iron

It makes a lot of sense when you consider the fact that the more you concentrate mass, the more that mass will transfer energy when you get close to it right? It was that final design that we saw out on tour around nine months ago that has ended up becoming what we will see at retail. Tried tested and ready for fittings and finding their way into golf bags.

From Ping’s President John K Solheim:

“When we launched it on tour, a few players put it in play immediately and it wasn’t long before we had our first win. Based on a lot of their input, we were able to deliver exactly what they were looking for while expanding our iron offerings into a new category. We’re very pleased with the development process we went through and are looking forward to applying our learnings to future PING products.”

Like everything Ping, the company has gone the extra mile when it comes to engineering every last aspect of these irons. Even something as simple as a tip weight has a calculation attached to it. Just like the G410 irons, the Blueprint irons have a visible tungsten toe weight.

Let me explain: basically every iron on the market utilizes a tip weight, either inserted into the shaft or into a port in the bottom of the hosel. (We’re about to go deep into the weeds from a design standpoint but stick with me). There is 100 percent nothing wrong with OEMs using tip weights to achieve desired swing weight but when you use them you move the CG closer to the hosel/heel side of the club…not on a humanly noticeable level but certainly from a definite engineering perspective.

This is why Ping has always placed the CTP (Custom Tuning Port) in the middle of the club head, directly behind the COG. But with a forged blade this is NOT possible because it’s solid metal, but there is a way to keep that COG EXACTLY where you want it: taking the amount of needed mass, dividing it by two and placing equal amounts in the hosel and in the toe. Simple? Yes. Done by anyone else? No.

Ping Blueprint irons construction

Ping is utilizing a four-step, multi-stage process for the one-piece forging to create the Blueprint forged iron. This process provides very tight dimensional tolerance control within the compact design. The high-strength, 8620 carbon steel (same material used in the Glide forged wedges) increases the iron’s durability compared to other carbon steels, ensuring long-lasting performance. The Blueprint irons go through more than 50 steps in the manufacturing process, including milling faces and grooves to ensure quality control club after club with each and every head checked for absolute accuracy.

Details

  • Available in 2-PW, starting at $230 per club
  • Stock shaft options: True Temper Dynamic Gold 120 (S300, X100), Ping AWT 2.0 (R, S, X) with all other Ping shafts available at additional cost
  • Arccos Smart Sensor grips available at an additional cost

 

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Brooks Koepka’s winning WITB: 2019 PGA Championship

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Driver: TaylorMade M5 (10.5 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana D+ 70 TX

3-wood: TaylorMade M2 Tour HL (16.5 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana D+ 80 TX shaft

Irons: Nike Vapor Fly Pro (3), Mizuno JPX 919 Tour (4-PW)
Shafts: Fujikura Pro 95 Tour Spec X (3), True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 (4-PW)

Wedges: Vokey Design SM7 Raw (52-12F, 56-10S); Vokey SM4 TVD Raw (60-08M)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

Image c/o Vokey Wedge Rep Aaron Dill

Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2 SLT T10

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Cord (Midsize) with one wrap of 2-way tape and one wrap of masking tape

Ball: Titleist Pro V1x

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See more pics of Koepka’s clubs and shafts here.

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Ping G410 LST: Low spin offering joins G410 family

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Ping Golf has today added to its G410 driver family, introducing the Ping G410 LST, which according to the company, is a high-MOI driver engineered to produce low and stable spin.

The new addition from Ping features the same movable-weight technology found in the G410 Plus model. With the G410 LST model, however, the CG position has been moved slightly forward in all three areas (draw, neutral, fade) which aims to promote spin reduction of approximately 200 to 400 rpm, depending on shaft choice and a golfer’s launch conditions.

Each weight position shifts the CG location by 1/10″ in each direction from neutral, influencing left or right shot direction approximately 10 yards, and speaking on the moveable-weight technology featured in the G410 LST, John K. Solheim, Ping President stated

“The addition of the movable-weight technology in our low-spin driver option allows us to fit a wider range of golfers. A perfect example is a high-swing-speed player who battles a miss to the right. In that case, the combination of placing the weight in the draw position and the lower spin greatly improves dispersion and leads to increased ball speed for more distance.”

The club also features Dragonfly Technology on the inside, designed to create an ultra-thin crown structure, saving weight, which is moved to the extreme boundary of the clubhead to increase the MOI by 3% (compared to the G400 LST) for added ball speed and forgiveness.

The G410 LST driver head (450cc) contains a more rounded, pear-shaped design which combined with Turbulator Technology aims to provide for added clubhead speed, while the face of the club sits slightly open and the score-line pattern frames the impact area in a bid to offer players improved alignment.

The lightweight and adjustable hosel of the G410 LST expands from five to eight settings, offering loft (0, +1º, +1.5º, -1º, -1.5º) and lie adjustments (up to 3º flatter than standard) which seek to optimize ball flight.

Speaking concerning the G410 LST’s new technologies and benefits, Solheim said

“The head size is slightly smaller than the Plus model and the CG is positioned to reduce spin several hundred rpms while still providing extremely high forgiveness. The combination of lower spin and more stability plus the ability to dial in the shot shape with our movable-weight technology greatly expands the types of golfers who can benefit from the technology of the G410 LST driver.

As always, we encourage golfers to undergo a thorough custom fitting with a trained PING Fitting Specialist to determine which G410 driver model best fits their game.”

G410 LST Specs: 

  • Loft options: 9, 10.5 degrees
  • Head volume: 450 cc
  • Head weight: 206g
  • Swing weight: D4
  • Std. lengths: 45.75″ (PING Alta CB Red), 45.25” (PING Tour & Aftermarkets)
  • Lie adjustability: Up to 3 degrees (Std: 57.0?)
  • Stock shaft option: PING Alta CB Red (Soft R, R, S, X)
  • No-upcharge shaft options: PING Tour 65, 75 (R, S, X), Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange 60 (R, S, X), Project X Evenflow Black 75 (5.5, 6.0, 6.5)
  • Stock grip: Golf Pride Tour Velvet 360 in six sizes: Blue -1/16″, Red -1/32″, Aqua -1/64″, White Std., Gold +1/32″, Orange +1/16″
  • Arccos Smart Sensor Grips (upcharge): Golf Pride Tour Velvet 360 in two sizes (White Std., Aqua -1/64”)

The G410 LST driver is available for pre-order and custom fitting at authorized PING golf shops around the world beginning today and costs $540.

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