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TESTING: Fujikura Atmos “Tour Spec” Red vs Atmos Red driver shafts

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For an average golfer, what’s the difference between a regular Fujikura Atmos Red shaft and a “Tour Spec” Atmos Red? That’s what we wanted to find out.

In our new club testing series, average golfers will be hitting either different shafts or different club heads, testing them against each other. The process will simply be to hit an equal number of shots with each shaft or club head, eliminating any outliers, and then report the numbers. These are all one-variable tests. Since the club tests are all done at Club Champion in Royal Oak, Michigan, the testing is under direct supervision of professional fitters.

First, some information about both shafts in this test.

Fujikura Atmos Tour Spec Red 6S facts

Fuji says: “New for 2017, the Atmos Tour Spec line is geared towards the performance golfer looking to keep the ball flighted down with low spin. Continuing with our iconic ‘Tour Spec white’ paint, Atmos is a true tour flighted line of shafts with a simple color coding – red as the higher launching, blue as mid launch, black as the lowest launch – similarities include keeping the handle flexes the same for feel, but adjusting mid and tip sections for launch and spin to achieve your desired ball flight.”

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Fujikura Atmos Red 6S facts

Fuji says: “New for 2018, we’re excited to introduce the higher launching and softer profile Atmos. The Atmos has a similar design profile to the Tour Spec version, but is geared towards fitting a wider spectrum of golfers. The Atmos has a consistent, smooth feel, and has the red launch profile to signify the higher flight and spin… the blue profile is for mid launch and spin performance.”

Specs

The Test

We had two testers each hit the Fujikura Atmos Red Tour Spec 6S against a Fujikura Atmos Red 6S. Player A is a lefty and a 17-handicap. Player B is a righty and a 9-handicap. Both fight shots to the left (one being a slice, one being a hook, respectively). Here’s what happened when they both hit the shafts:

Player A

 Atmos Red TS Red 6SAtmos Red 6S
Club Speed91.6 mph91.4 mph
Ball Speed128.3 mph127.1 mph
Smash factor1.401.39
Spin Rate5339 rpm5194 rpm
Side129.8 L143.9L
Launch14.8 degrees16.0 degrees
Carry186.6 yards185 yards
Total198.4 yards196.1 yards
Height92 feet97 feet
Attack Angle-3.6 degrees-3.4 degrees

Player B

 Atmos TS Red 6SAtmos Red 6S
Club Speed103.4 mph104.3 mph
Ball Speed150.2 mph150.8 mph
Smash Factor1.45 1.44
Spin Rate2652 rpm2915 rpm
Side74.1 L65.8 L
Launch Angle12.1 degrees11.4 degrees
Carry246.5 yards242.7 yards
Total272.0 yards267.2 yards
Height88 feet89 feet
Attack Angle-0.9 degrees-2.0
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13 Comments

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  1. Jim Giles

    Aug 24, 2018 at 12:03 pm

    I was curious on the significant change in Attack Angle for Player B . Did the shaft cause this ? Cuz I am no expert, but wouldn’t that have a lot to do with the resulting Launch Angle (thus flight) being so different. Player B’s stats confused me.

  2. Someone

    Aug 24, 2018 at 11:19 am

    Need more data. Greater sample size. Two players is insignificant especially considering the skill gap.

  3. Bark Chuck

    Aug 24, 2018 at 1:31 am

    Did I miss the type of club head, loft, etc.?

  4. CrashTestDummy

    Aug 24, 2018 at 1:25 am

    For any strong consistent swings, the standard Atmos Red will feel like a noodle and most likely have poor dispersion groupings compared to the TS Atmos Red. Those shafts are polar opposites in specs except for the name.

  5. james

    Aug 23, 2018 at 3:59 pm

    Based on these numbers, one would think the stock shaft is really, really good!. why spend $300+ for the tour spec? does not seem worth it.

  6. Kevin

    Aug 23, 2018 at 1:01 pm

    So even a “mid” and a “high” handicap golfer hit the tour spec shaft further…minimally, but further. If this is truly legit data it would seem there is no need to make both versions. Just make the tour spec and let everyone hit it a little further…

    • Jim Giles

      Aug 24, 2018 at 12:01 pm

      for a Manufacturer in making it, your comment is correct… .but for a consumer, these things are hundreds of dollars different. So I think it provides validation that for the weekend golfer you don’t need to spend $$$ on the Tour Spec shaft to get similar results.

      • Josh

        Aug 25, 2018 at 1:00 am

        Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding

      • The Club Nut

        Sep 3, 2018 at 12:00 pm

        They’re really not that different in price. If youre comparing the Atmos that comes “stock” in the M4 with the shaft they tested, you’d be comparing two different shafts. The graphics may be more similar than any Fujikura stock offering in recent years, but the final product is different. Having physically tested a stick Atmos red and an aftermarket Atmos red, the stock option is lighter flex (at same marked rating) and more tip soft.

  7. Picky

    Aug 23, 2018 at 11:49 am

    You lost me at .620 butt diameter. I’m not spending hundreds of dollars on a shaft that I can’t have a standard size cord grip on.

    • The Club Nut

      Sep 3, 2018 at 12:01 pm

      You can stretch it, or have an undersize built up to standard.

  8. Dan

    Aug 23, 2018 at 11:31 am

    This is a tiny sample size and TXG did a better version of this where they show how it affects the flight

  9. Francis

    Aug 23, 2018 at 11:31 am

    Love this concept. I know you said that the object of the experiment was for “average” golfers, but it would have been even more interesting if you threw in a scratch since the TS is designed for “performance golfer.” I would have liked to have seen the performance difference (if any) between the three handicap levels. Great work!

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