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Brandel Chamblee says Tiger Woods may be the biggest underachiever in golf history. Could he possibly be right?



Brandel Chamblee would certainly say he’s done nothing more than offer his honest, reasoned opinions on Tiger Woods throughout his career.

The Golf Channel analysts’s detractors, however, feel Chamblee has an anti-Woods bias at best and makes incendiary remarks that he knows aren’t true for attention, at worst.

The most recent example of Chamblee telling his truth regarding Woods came on the Golf Digest podcast.

“I would argue he got the least out of his talent of any player, maybe in history,” Chamblee said. “What other player would you have imagined was going to win 30 major championships? Twenty-five, 30 major championships and 100-plus events? There’s no other player that any of us would ever have imagined — I think he was better than any of us ever imagined. But once he got going, we thought, well . . . he’s going to be Genghis Khan to the record books.”

Blasphemy! Lunacy! Clickbait take in the extreme! Right? Or does Chamblee have a point?

Certainly, Woods’ three swing overhauls cost him wins and likely major championships. But how many? And certainly, too, Woods’ injuries and the fallout from his infidelity scandal cost him wins. But how many?

Arnold Palmer famously said Woods would win as many majors as Palmer and Jack Nicklaus combined (25). Woods is 11 short of that number. Has there been another golfer in history whose total number of major wins is >10 short of what was expected? Is Brandel right?

Let us know what you think, GolfWRX members.

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  1. Geoffrey Holland

    Aug 13, 2018 at 2:50 pm

    Brandel Chamblee is a giant idiot.

  2. Klaus

    Aug 10, 2018 at 2:17 am

    If Jacks playing against today’s field of players he wins 9 majors tops. And that’s just Major’s – Tigers second only to Snead in tour wins (6 more than Jack).

    Brandlee’s an idiot.

    • Membrane

      Aug 10, 2018 at 2:49 am

      And if Eldrick was playing against today’s field of players he wins 7. And that’s just majors – Eldrick will have won half as many regular Tour events against these guys.

    • OleMan

      Aug 13, 2018 at 11:21 am

      Tiger is a has been! The networks are wasting good TV time showing this guy hitting shots! Almost has NEVER BEEN GOOD ENOUGH!

      • RJ

        Aug 13, 2018 at 8:06 pm

        @Oleman -14 in a major “is a has been”? Why are you so mad at Tiger? If Tiger “is a has been” then all other with less than his record of wins and majors should just retire or quit. Your thoughts?

  3. Klaus107

    Aug 10, 2018 at 2:15 am

    If Jacks playing against today’s field of players he wins 9 majors tops. And that’s just Major’s – Tigers second only to Snead in tour wins (6 more than Jack).

    Brandlee’s an idiot.

  4. Mat

    Aug 9, 2018 at 5:40 pm

    The only “underachievement” is that he couldn’t shut Brandel up.

  5. Terry, this is not a Game

    Aug 9, 2018 at 12:34 pm

    He’s 100% right. Tiger should have Joe DiMaggio’d the record books.

    • Geoffrey Holland

      Aug 13, 2018 at 2:46 pm

      Interesting comment considering that Joe DiMaggio owns very few baseball records.

  6. acew/7iron

    Aug 9, 2018 at 8:31 am

    By comparison..There are a few that overachieved IMO…

    Els comes to mind and the GOAT Jack himself probably pulled out a few that he should not have along the way including that last one at Augusta in his late 40’s.

  7. The Dude

    Aug 9, 2018 at 8:21 am

    Fred Couples is by far the biggest under achiever in the history of golf given his talent and only 1 major.

  8. golferdg

    Aug 9, 2018 at 8:17 am

    He is as bad a journalist as he was a golfer

  9. RocketBall

    Aug 9, 2018 at 3:59 am

    Brandel is trying to make us forget we saw his swing at the Senior British Open. What a sad little man.

    • TONEY P

      Aug 10, 2018 at 7:53 pm

      That was funny. Branded was always jealous of Tiger and how easy he won.

  10. rex235

    Aug 8, 2018 at 10:41 pm

    Lets see if anyone else wins a major on a broken leg first…

    “Underachive” that.

    • rex235

      Aug 8, 2018 at 10:44 pm

      “Underachieve…” on a broken leg?.

      • W

        Aug 9, 2018 at 1:04 am

        Nothing to do with a broken leg. It’s the women

      • Geohogan

        Aug 11, 2018 at 7:53 am

        With all due respect for Bob May, on a broken leg, Tiger beat
        a player who had zero career wins. Brandel is right.. underacheiver.

        • Geoffrey Holland

          Aug 13, 2018 at 2:49 pm

          Tiger didn’t have a broken leg when he beat Bob May. He had a broken leg when he beat Rocco Mediate who had tour wins under his belt.

        • Bob Pegram

          Aug 14, 2018 at 8:45 am

          It was a hairline fracture – a crack. It is still painful, but not a “broken leg” in the usual sense.

  11. Andrew Levy

    Aug 8, 2018 at 9:53 pm

    Brandel loves to stir the pot and he is always on the wrong side to get people talking. Plus his name is Brandel they want to change the name to Branden.

  12. Jim McPherson

    Aug 8, 2018 at 9:47 pm

    Def fell short of expectations established in his prime. Truth has been spoken here.

  13. Caroline

    Aug 8, 2018 at 9:44 pm

    LOL, a guy that got more out of his talent by just making some cuts on the PGA tour (Brandel) knows first hand just how hard it is to even make a top ten in a PGA tournament is going to claim Tiger should have done more??? LOL, maybe I would believe John Daly could have done a little better with his talent…come on Brandel Tiger has done just fine…

  14. Tyler Durden

    Aug 8, 2018 at 9:03 pm

    So Brandel says tiger should’ve won way more majors and gets roasted. Arnie said basically the same thing and nothing.
    GolfWRX commenters are the worst.

  15. Devilsadvocate

    Aug 8, 2018 at 7:15 pm

    As much as branded irritates me sometimes… I absolutely agree with him here. When u take into account the swing change time, the injury time, and obviously what the scandal did to his confidence it really is quite sad to think about what might have been .. that being said if he does manage to somehow win 19, or even 18 really, it would be the best sports comeback story of all time in my opinion

  16. Charlie

    Aug 8, 2018 at 6:39 pm

    I wonder what Brandel’s ratio of Likes to Shanks has been here on GolfWRX. He certainly hasn’t underachieved.

  17. Moses

    Aug 8, 2018 at 6:34 pm

    He’sssssssss baaaaaack!!!!!!!

  18. 2putttom

    Aug 8, 2018 at 3:38 pm

    A sports career is like a box of chocolates

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Lexi Thompson violates Rules of Golf at Indy Women in Tech Championship



During the third round of the Indy Women in Tech Championship, Lexi Thompson unknowingly ran afoul of the Rules of Golf.

Preferred lies–AKA lift, clean, and place–were in effect at soggy Brickyard Crossing. Thompson hit her drive at the par-5 10th hole wide right. It settled in the sixth fairway. Believing she was allowed to lift and clean any ball in the fairway, Thompson began to do so.

The rule, of course, only applies to balls that settle in one’s own fairway. Fortunately for Thompson, an official saw what was happening and stepped in to administer a penalty.

“Thankfully, Marty [the official] intervened before she hit her next shot,” Golf Channel’s Kay Cockerill reported. “Otherwise, she would have been hitting from the wrong spot, and it would have been a two-shot penalty. So, in a sense, it saved her a shot.”

The LPGA issued this statement.

“While playing the third round of the 2018 Indy Women in Tech Championship, Lexi Thompson incurred a one-stroke penalty for breach of the preferred lies local Rule (Appendix IA Part 3b Course Conditions).”

“The Committee adopted the preferred lies local Rule due to the turf conditions of the golf course after receiving over an inch of rain. The LPGA, under the local Rule, restricts the player from preferring her lie when her ball lies in a closely-mown area of a hole other than the one being played.”

“During the play of hole #10, Thompson’s tee shot came to rest in the fairway of hole #6. As Thompson’s ball lay on the fairway of hole #6, she was not entitled to prefer her lie.”

“She preferred her lie in breach of the local Rule but prior to playing her stroke from a wrong place (Rule 20-7), she was questioned by a Rules official regarding her actions. As she had not played her stroke from the preferred spot, she did not receive the general penalty of two-strokes under the local Rule. However, she did incur a one-stroke penalty under Rule 18-2 for lifting her ball at rest without authority.”

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Joe LaCava, Tiger Woods’ caddie, paid a heckler $25 to leave at the WGC-Bridgestone



While Steve Williams would likely have taken a different route, Tiger Woods’ current caddie admitted to bribing a fan to leave his boss alone.

LaCava called into ESPN’s “Golic and Wingo” and told a tale of paying of a heckler at the WGC-Bridgestone Invitational.

LaCava said the man heckled Woods throughout his final round at the Bridgestone, and on the 14th hole, LaCava interceded, telling the man to check out action elsewhere on the course. Interestingly/absurdly, the man said he would be happy to, provided LaCava reimburse him for his ticket.

Here’s the full transcript c/o ESPN.

Mike Golic: “Did you have any issues with the people at Bellerive?”

Joe LaCava: “Not at all, and you hit it right on the head, 99 percent of the guys and women are behind Tiger, pushing for Tiger. They want to see good golf in general they’re not anti-the-other-guys, but they’re certainly rooting for Tiger more so than the other guys. But, funny you guys ask that question. The week before in Akron, I had a little incident with a guy who was harassing my guy on the 14th hole at Akron the last day outside the ropes, roughening him up pretty good. And I said, hey listen bud, why do you gotta go there? Everyone’s having a good time, everyone’s pulling for Tiger. You don’t like the guy that’s one thing, but you don’t to be yelling at my guy, screaming negative stuff like that. And I said at the end of the day, if you affect him, his performance, it effects my bottomline. So he calls me a couple names and I go back and forth with the guy, and I say why don’t you just leave. And he says well if you give me $25 for the ticket that I bought today I’ll leave. And I said here you go, here’s $25.”

Mike: “Did he leave?”

Joe: “So I whip out $25 and he starts to go down the 14th fairway toward the green. I say look pal $25 is $25 you gotta head the other way. So he starts to head the other way, he goes 20 yards down the line, then he calls me a certain other, a swear word. So I run 20 yards back the other way and I’m going face to face with this guy. And all the sudden Tiger’s looking for a yardage, and I’m in it with this guy 20 yards down the line. So some cop has to come in, push this guy outta the way, and take him outta the tournament.

Mike: “So what did Tiger say when you came back to give him the yardage?”

Joe: “Well that’s a great question. We were so far to the right of the trees, and he was on his third shot believe it or not, we were still 150 yards away from the green, and he didn’t really know what happened. He heard the commotion, he heard the guy yelling at him, so we talked about it after the fact, but he didn’t really know how it developed. And he says I was wondering what happened, and he goes normally it wouldn’t that long to get a yardage. I said well a little incident down the road. He didn’t have a problem with it, and actually I gotta standing ovation for kicking the guy outta there.

Security probably should have happened sooner when LaCava was $25 richer.

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A brief cart ride (by his caddie) has big implications for Akshay Bhatia at the U.S. Amateur



16-year-old Akshay Bhatia may be looking for a new caddie for his next event. The rising star of amateur golf was penalized when his caddie accepted a ride on a golf cart at the 14th hole during the round of 64 at the U.S. Amateur.

Bhatia would go on to lose to Bradford Tilley.

The match was all square at the 14th. Chris Darnell, Bhatia’s caddie, made a pit stop at the bathroom after Bhatia hit his approach. While the player walked to the green, Darnell was approached by what he believed was a USGA official driving a golf cart.

“The gentleman was wearing a USGA pullover,” Darnell said afterward. “I asked if I could get a ride to the green to keep up pace, and he said yes. So I hopped on the back, got up to the green, hopped off and thought nothing of it.”

Of course, neither players nor caddies can ride on any form of transportation during the round unless authorized, per the Rules of Golf. Bhatia was penalized accordingly and lost the hole after a (real) official spotted the infraction.

Particularly frustrating for the golfer was the fact that he had birdied the par-5 and believed he was going 1 up on his opponent, only to find out they were all square.

As mentioned, Bhatia would go on to lose in 19 holes.

Adding another layer to this drama, Darnell said Tilley’s caddie had done the same thing earlier in the match.

“I had already seen the other caddie in our group do it on the ninth hole,” Darnell said. “Same thing – USGA pullover, drove him from the bathroom up to the fairway – so I assumed it was fine. I didn’t point it out at the time because everything seemed kosher. He had the USGA stuff on, and I didn’t think anything of it.”

What are the chances Tilley or his caddie admit to the infraction now? And who is this mystery idiot who loves the USGA enough to drape himself in their garb but is daft enough to blatantly break a straightforward rule of competition?

Dumb rule? Certainly in this sense. But so many situations exist in amateur play that you can understand why the USGA would level a prohibition on transportation. Still, shouldn’t there be some room for interpretation? It’s difficult to argue Bhatia himself gained any advantage…

What do you think, GolfWRX members?

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