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Rickie Fowler sings the praises of slow greens. What do you think?

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Following his opening-round 64 at the Aberdeen Standard Investments Scottish Open yesterday, Rickie Fowler had some interesting remarks about his enjoyment of slower greens.

Writing for Golfweek, Geoff Shackelford mentioned Guillane “is playing firm and fast tee-to-fringe, the greens themselves are kept much slower than the typical European Tour course due to the possibility of high winds.”

Rickie Fowler, a past winner of the tournament, suggested slower greens may actually show who the better putters are.

“I think it’s kind of nice because (you) actually get to hit the putt, you’re not just trying to hit it to a spot and letting it work to the hole unless you have a downhill, downwind putt,” he said. ‘“You have to use your imagination as far as creativity and trying to judge how much the wind will affect it. At the end of the day, you just have to hit solid putts.”’

“Slower greens may accentuate a mis-hit putt more. Whereas if you have a downhill putt in the States you kind of just have to hit it to get it going. Here, you mis-hit it a little bit uphill, into the wind and it can be a pretty big difference.”

While Shackelford, advocate for rolling back the ball and against “firm and fast” that he is, saw great important in Fowler’s remarks, he’s not at all wrong to highlight them

What do you think, GolfWRX members? Is it worth reading anything into Fowler’s remarks? Clearly, with current ball distances, pros would be shooting fish in a barrel with their approach shots on greens that stimp at nine or 10, right?

Let us know what you think!

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  1. Raj LP

    Jul 15, 2018 at 2:40 am

    THis is a great point. I am a 7 handicap and I tend to putt a LOT better on fast pure greens than slow pure ones. On fast greens, I can actually putt to a point and let it just roll in. On slow greens I actually have to think about getting it to the hole and a lot more goes into it.

  2. Kevin Arnold

    Jul 13, 2018 at 3:32 pm

    Yes yes yes…..watching the USGA and the 15 stimp country club greens makes putting on pool tables more about luck and is so boring. It’s takes making a solid stroke out of the equation.

    Slow the greens down and make these actually hit putts on center of the face. Then watch them cringe about putts left short, instead of shaky hands scared to putt a 40 footer off the green and wacking it mid roll down the slope.

    • Noa Idea

      Jul 13, 2018 at 6:16 pm

      Slow greens will speed up play — I’m a big fan!

  3. O

    Jul 13, 2018 at 3:16 pm

    Not when the top players of the world consistently shoot 63s with that set up and laugh about how easy the course is!

    • Darryl

      Jul 16, 2018 at 5:38 am

      Winning score was 7 shots lower at the Deere Run.

  4. DB

    Jul 13, 2018 at 2:03 pm

    Completely agree. Slow down the greens AND the fairways.

    I don’t enjoy seeing Putt-Putt trick greens where they tap the ball and it rolls 30 feet. I also am a little tired of seeing drives that run out 40-50 yards.

  5. David

    Jul 13, 2018 at 12:56 pm

    I agree with Rickie. Slower greens also allow for pins to be put in positions with significantly more slope. It is very disconcerting to have a 4 footer on a slow green that you have to play a cup outside the hole sometimes.

    • Fingers

      Jul 13, 2018 at 2:04 pm

      Totally. There is a course near me that keeps their greens on the fuzzy side and while fairly flat for the most part they all have a section that has a “subtle buried elephant”. When ever you have to deal with those it can get tricky, unnerving and can really mess with your head. They require you to put a good roll on the ball. I have seen many guys that stab putts really struggle when their ball jumps a few inches out of their desired line in the first 5-10′

  6. Roy

    Jul 13, 2018 at 12:34 pm

    Yeah, sure, slow greens are fine …. as long as they’re rolled smooth, uniform, consistent, and full. Wait! Just about ANY green is good to putt on if they’re properly (read not cheaply) maintained. Meanwhile, these guys get to putt on the most pristine / consistent green surfaces on the planet. Would love to see how they handle the heat stressed Bent or Mini Verde Bermuda in the middle of the summer at my place. There can e 3+ Stemps difference and greens can be akin to putting on gravel roads at times. Wake me when corporate golf conpanies like Club Corp actually give a damn about their greens year round.

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Tiger weighs in on the distance debate: ‘They should have been worried a long time ago, but the genie’s out of the bag now’

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The distance debate in golf continues to rumble on, and this week, the greatest player of his generation had his say claiming that the game’s governing bodies should have been worried a long time ago about the surge in distance amongst Tour pros.

Asked before this week’s Zozo about the recent urge players have to find more distance, Woods spoke about the importance of length in the game and how it’s more accessible than ever for players to find an extra gear or two off the tee.

“Distance has always been an advantage. Now that we have the tools, that being the launch monitor, the fitting of the golf clubs, the adjustability. I think all that plays into the fact that you’re able to maximize the capabilities of a driver.

There’s no reason why you can’t pick up more yardage, and guys have done that. They’ve changed shafts, they’ve changed lofts, they’ve changed weights on their heads and length of clubs. Driving is such a huge part of the game and it’s so advantageous if you’re able to get the ball out there. It just makes the game so much easier.”

When asked by media if the game’s authorities should be worried about the recent surge in the added distance in the game, Woods claimed that though he would like to be able to see a complete rollback, he doesn’t see it happening.

“They should have been worried a long time ago, but the genie’s out of the bag now. It’s about what do we do going forward, and how soon can they do it. I don’t know if they’re going—you’re not going to stop the guys who are there right now. Guys are figuring out how to carry the ball 320-plus yards, and it’s not just a few of them. There’s a lot of guys can do it. That’s where the game’s going.

There’s only going to be a small amount of property that we can do, we can alter golf courses. I just don’t see how they can roll everything back. I would like to be able to see that, as far as our game, but then we go back down the road of what do you bifurcate, at what level? So that’s a long discussion we’ve had for a number of years, for 20-plus years now, and I think it’s only going to continue.” 

Tiger will tee off for his first round at the Zozo Championship this Thursday at 1.45 PM ET.

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The surprising event Tiger Woods hints at playing before the Masters

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Many people were under the impression that this week’s Zozo Championship would be Tiger Woods’ last stop before heading to Augusta National in three weeks, but not so fast.

According to the Big Cat himself, the Houston Open may well be on the 15-time major champion’s radar, which is the very week before the Masters kicks off.

Speaking to media at Sherwood CC this week, Woods said

“Well, I think my plan is just to play and practice. I don’t know if I’m going to play Houston or not. I’m not playing next week, and we’ll see how this week goes and make a decision from there.”

That event that he has ruled himself out of next week is the Bermuda Championship, and further explaining his preparation before the Masters, Woods brought up the possibility of Houston once more to reporters:

“This entire year has been different for all of us. And my run-up to Augusta is unlike anything I’ve ever experienced. That’s just the way it is. The whole idea is to be ready in a few weeks and whether or not that’s playing one more event, whether that’s Houston or just playing here at Zozo, just making sure that I’m ready for Augusta.”

Woods has never before played the Houston Open, and in 2020 it will be the first event to have fans back on-site since the Tour’s restart, with 2,000 spectators to be allowed through the gates each day of tournament play.

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The 6 best #GolfWRX photos on Instagram today (10.21.20)

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In this segment, we’ll be taking a look at some of the best #GolfWRX tagged photos on Instagram. In case you aren’t already, there’s a whole load of action going on at our page, so follow us: @golfwrx

Let’s get to it then, here are six of the best #GolfWRX photos from the past 24 hours.

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Custom matte black coating with white and pink paint fill on this haywoodgolf signature putter.

Teacher Kerrod Gray on how to hit 3-wood off the ground.

Custom FSU theme Scotty Cameron Phantom X from The Golf Garage.

Bullseye putters. Yay or nay, WRXers?

SIM 3-wood for TW this week, maybe….

Get hashtagging your golf posts #GolfWRX for your chance to feature in our best of Instagram posts in the future!

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