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Bryson does Bryson: DeChambeau spotted using a compass to read greens

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Plenty of armchair humorists and hot take artists remarked on Bryson DeChambeau’s use of a compass during the Travelers Championship this weekend.

Unfortunately (perhaps) for DeChambeau, the PGA Tour spotted the former physics major utilizing the device.

While it’s highly irregular/quite expected from DeChambeau, the powers that be aren’t certain of the legality of compass use.

“They said we just want to let you know we’re investigating this device and seeing if it’s allowable or not,” DeChambeau said.

The SMU alum also threw this bit of shade at the Tour: “People are saying it’s an unusual device, that’s at least what the tour’s saying… It’s funny people take notice when you start playing well.”

Let’s press pause here for a second to address the elephant in the room: What the heck was Bryson doing with the compass-and-yardage-book routine.

Here’s what he told reporters

“Figuring out true pin locations. The pin locations are a little bit off every once in a while, so I’m making sure they’re in the exact right spot.”

True pin locations. Is that like true gravity? Anyway, DeChambeau has reportedly been using the device since 2016… How is this the first we’re seeing of it? Does he only bust out the compass when he suspects

It also wasn’t the first time DeChambeau has used the device, he said, noting that he’d been doing so since the 2016 PGA Tour stop in Las Vegas. Reportedly, the Tour’s investigation concerns whether the compass is an “allowable” device (per Will Gray).

What do you think, GolfWRX members? Rules junkies: Is Bryson in violation? Mathematically inclined/cartographers: Is the technique an asset in cases of “untrue” pins?

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  1. gif

    Jun 26, 2018 at 12:07 pm

    Perhaps his AimPoint green charts show N-arrow to orient the charts… so Bryson is just aligning the charts to the green topography. However I think it’s a lot more sinister… he’s tracking the earth’s geomagnetic lines to determine how the ball may break due to planetary influences.. 😮

  2. Nathan

    Jun 26, 2018 at 11:20 am

    Does someone need to tell him that pin sheets are not actual size and shape?

  3. Caroline

    Jun 25, 2018 at 1:50 pm

    What ever it takes…. Pros have to shoot under par most rounds to make a living…those under par rounds also make money for the PGA Tour, the equipment companies and all the other companies paying for commercials each week. Not surprising to see any player trying to find an edge for his/her game.

  4. joro

    Jun 25, 2018 at 1:16 pm

    Maybe he is checking which way home for when he goes after he misses a cut.

    • Gerald Teigrob

      Jun 25, 2018 at 4:44 pm

      Seriously? How many cuts has he missed? A lot less than Rory or others!

  5. cwt

    Jun 25, 2018 at 12:25 pm

    He should do his homework the night before the tournament when they announce the next day’s pin placement. By the way, don’t some tournaments have the next day’s hole location marked? I’ve seen reports of caddies doing their homework on Friday’s greens for Saturday when they see the location marked.

  6. Q

    Jun 25, 2018 at 10:10 am

    +1 for true gravity comment. No different than plumb bobbing if you ask me

    • Adam

      Jun 25, 2018 at 11:40 am

      -1 isn’t anything unless you’re an Allman Brothers fan. It’s true north you were looking for.
      – another 2 for not knowing either of these details.

      • Jamie

        Jun 25, 2018 at 3:20 pm

        -100 for tongue-lashing someone for not being an Allman Brothers fan.

        • Gerald Teigrob

          Jun 25, 2018 at 4:45 pm

          I agree with Jamie! Never been a big fan of the Allman brothers although I have a feeling Cher knows more about them than I do.

  7. Johnny Penso

    Jun 25, 2018 at 9:42 am

    I love this guy and the way he is taking his own unique approach to tournament golf. If I had said 5 years ago all the stuff he was doing would work and he’d be winning tournaments and in contention nearly every week I would have been laughed out of the clubhouse. He’s my new favourite golfer!!

  8. Jamie

    Jun 25, 2018 at 9:28 am

    So what do you do if you find a hole that not’s perfectly located on an otherwise conceptual plan probably marked NTS, Bryson? Issue a Micrsoft White Paper? FIS(mart)JAM?

  9. Peter

    Jun 25, 2018 at 8:22 am

    I thought they were talking about a magnetic compass and then I see the photo of the needle/pencil compass, gee whiz PGA, it’s like using a ruler, lay off the Kool Aid.

    • Gerald Teigrob

      Jun 25, 2018 at 4:49 pm

      Well said! Next, they might say that flatulating adds an unfair wind advantage. It’s not hurting the integrity of the game and the kool-aid rule aficionados need to find something else to go after since they are apparently bored. As well as the armchair rules officials. Sniffing glue also comes to mind!

  10. jake krayson

    Jun 25, 2018 at 7:13 am

    and in other news,,,both the PGA Tour and the USGA will begin investigating the relative thickness of player’s socks. “We don’t want anyone to feel too comfortable and therefore gain an unfair advantage.”

  11. Richard Douglas

    Jun 25, 2018 at 6:45 am

    The Tour would try to ban his hat if there weren’t so many pictures of Hogan wearing one.

    A compass? How is that an “unusual device”? It determines direction, right? Why wouldn’t a player be entitled to know that? Or is it a GPS that gives coordinates? That should be okay, given all the Garmin watches for sale. (True, the Tour prevents players from using GPS devices to measure distances.)

    When Bryson wanted to putt side-saddle, the USGA ruled his putter non-conforming, but would not commit as to WHY it was non-conforming. They just didn’t like looking at him making putts like that, so they got rid of it.

    The Tour and the USGA. Can any sports organization be as backwards as these two? (Yes, I’m looking at you, R&A….)

  12. Joe

    Jun 25, 2018 at 4:08 am

    Only question the PGA has to answer is this: Does it give him an advantage against his fellow competitor. And the answer is an easy and resounding no. If you allow for yardage books, pin sheets, and green books, you have to allow for accurate measurement of those books to be taken into consideration. If you provide, at all, a graphic that gives an “accurate” distance analog, then you must allow for a player to render their judgement of how accurate that distance is. It’s no different then when Jack Nicklaus began stepping off yardages to get more accurate distances from either 100-150-200 yard markers or sprinkler heads that had measurements. Or if a European player who is not used to Imperial, to have a way to calculate the equivalency into metric. It’s not gaining an unfair advantage in any way.

    I mean, seriously,they are going to let guys use rangefinders in 2019…and they are going to argue against a device that has been around for 1000’s of years.

  13. Brad

    Jun 24, 2018 at 11:17 pm

    The PGA seems to hate Bryson DeChambeau, and they are probably going totally bonkers that the “Mad Scientist” has been so consistently good this season. I’m sure they will rule the compass is not an “allowed device” simply because Bryson is probably the only golfer on tour who could gain any possible advantage from using it.

    If Bryson tried to use an Abacus, they would probably ban that as well…

    • bebop a lula

      Jun 25, 2018 at 7:56 am

      I’m waiting for single length irons to be banned, the Tour do seem to have a thing about him.

      I mean what possible advantage could using a compass a have

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GolfWRX Classifieds Spotlight (06/05/20) – Scotty Cameron, TaylorMade Tour, GC Quad

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At GolfWRX, we love golf equipment plain and simple

We are a community of like-minded individuals that all experience and express our enjoyment for the game in many ways. It’s that sense of community that drives day-to-day interactions in the forums on topics that range from best driver to what marker you use to mark your ball, it even allows us to share another thing – the equipment itself.

One of the best ways to enjoy equipment is to experiment and whether you are looking to buy-sell-or trade (as the name suggests) you can find almost anything in the GolfWRX BST Forum. From one-off custom Scotty Cameron Circle T putters, to iron sets, wedges, and barely hit drivers, you can find it all in our constantly updated marketplace.

These are some of the latest cool finds from the GolfWRX BST, and if you are curious about the rules to participate in the BST Forum you can check them out here: GolfWRX BST Rules

Member jadedennill – Scotty Cameron CX-01

What a great price for a limited edition putter. This Scotty Cameron CX-01 is only 1 of 500 and offers a very unique look in a higher MOI blade design.

To see the full listing and additional pictures check out the link here: Scotty CSX-01

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This ad feels like the classic episode of “The Simpsons,” where the family travels to a quiet east coast beach town and Lisa reinvents herself for the summer. To reinvent her look she takes her mom shopping for clothes and while off-camera you here “Mom come quick BRING MONEY!”

Well, you better bring the money, because state-of-the-art launch monitors don’t come cheap, but you certainly get what you pay for with the GC Quad from Foresight.

To see the full listing and additional pictures check out the link here: GC Quad Launch Monitor

Member TheGriftKings – Unicorn 2015 8.5 M2 Driver

This is still one of the best and most sought after TaylorMade tour issue drivers of all time. This head is in amazing shape—basically new and at 8.5 degrees of loft, it’s even rarer.

To see the full listing and additional pictures check out the link here: TaylorMade M2 Driver

Remember that you can always browse the GolfWRX Classifieds any time here in our forums: GolfWRX Classifieds 

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Check out Tiger Woods’ incredible handicap index history from his entire career

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Ever wondered what Tiger Woods’ handicap index has been throughout his career? Well, one statistician, Lou Stagner of Decade Golf, did some serious number crunching and the results are fascinating. 

From 1996 right through to today, Stagner used course rating and slope for each course in his research and calculated a differential for each round to find out what Tiger’s index would have been each year of his pro career.

You can see the impressive results in the graph below.

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The results show that Woods was at his very best handicap wise in 2008 when he bossed a +9.4 index, his average index was +6.7 throughout his career, his current index is 6.5, and as Stagner noted, he was +7 or better for 35% of his handicap revisions.

It’s also worth noting that the results are not adjusted to tournament conditions. Not bad, eh?

 

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Henrik Stenson: Fan-less Ryder Cup is better than nothing

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On Thursday, ‘Henrik Stenson Almost An Hour’ podcast presented by Callaway Golf aired for the first time, with the Swede sharing his thoughts on his playing schedule going forward, the tour’s return as well as a potential spectator-less Ryder Cup.

On the new bi-weekly podcast, Stenson described the potential of a Ryder Cup with no fans as being “very blunt”, but did stress that even a spectator-less Ryder Cup is better than no Ryder Cup at all.

“For the atmosphere and for the feeling, for us as players that would be, very blunt, it would be something that you can’t really imagine at this point.

Then looking at the bigger picture, if that’s the only way that the Ryder Cup can go ahead, and if it’s not an option to play it next year with crowds, with fans, then I would prefer to play a Ryder Cup than to not play a Ryder Cup.”

Stenson revealed he wouldn’t be returning to the U.S. until mid-July, and he’s expecting the first couple of week’s back to be “messy” as the players and officials adjust to the new conditions.

“I’ll sit out a few weeks and see how everything gets going. I think it might be a little bit more messy the first couple of weeks as well before everyone finds their bearings with testing and everything.

So I’ll watch it from the couch the first couple of weeks and most likely then with the current restrictions I will travel over in mid-July to Lake Nona. I’ll have a couple of weeks of practice and then I’ll tee it up at the WGC FedEx tournament in Memphis.”

Once the 44-year-old does get Stateside again, you can expect to see him often as he plans to play “every week up until Christmas.”

“And once I get over and start playing, I can pretty much play every week up until Christmas. Because (there’s) going to be lots of golf tournaments, and it’s not going to be a shortage. So I’m just kind of tweaking my return a little bit and will probably play a bit more in the fall.”

‘Henrik Stenson Almost An Hour’ podcast presented by Callaway Golf will air every other Thursday here.

 

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