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GolfWRX members debate: What should the World Golf Hall of Fame criteria be?

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There have been a couple of controversial inclusions on the World Golf Hall of Fame. This isn’t to rehash, say, Fred Couples earning a spot, but rather, take a look at entry criteria.

More specifically, GolfWRX member playar32 writes

“I know the actual criteria is 15 tour wins, or 2 majors/Players championship. But what’s YOUR minimum?…For example, if a player won a “B” tournament every year (the one opposite a WGC event), every year in a row for 15 years, but missed the cut in every other event, would you still considered them HOF?”

It’s an interesting point. Specifically, the World Golf Hall of Fame criteria for an active male golfer is as follows.

“A player must have a cumulative total of 15 or more official victories on any of the original members of the International Federation of PGA Tours (PGA TOUR, European Tour, Japan Golf Tour, Sunshine Tour, Asian Tour and PGA of Australasia) OR at least two victories among the following events: The Masters, THE PLAYERS Championship, the U.S. Open, The Open Championship and the PGA Championship.”

Further, a player must be at least 50 or five years removed from competition.

Here are some other WRX members’ takes.

Bladehunter says

“15 tour wins and 2 majors for me. Otherwise almost every 1 major winner out there is in.”

McCann1 says

“If we won’t remember your name without the HOF in 50 years I think you shouldn’t be in.”

Fowlerscousin says

“If any of these three criteria are met: 3 or more majors. Minimum 5 Ryder cup appearances. 15 tour victories.”

Hawkeye77 says

“Whatever the criteria are, don’t ever think about it unless someone whose speech I want to hear gets in.’

Golfer929 has more stringent standards

“20 Wins. 3 Majors. 2 Ryder Cup/President Cup appearances. 100 total weeks inside Top 50 OWGR.”

Golfgirlrobin says

“I’d like to see them go to some sort of point system like the LPGA uses. Factor in everything that’s important and let the chips fall where they may.”

You’ll want to check out the rest of what GolfWRX members have to say in the thread.

There are a ton off questions to consider when thinking about which current/recent players should make the HoF.

A few…

1. Should the standards be on par with other sports? If so, what does that look like?
2. If the WGHOF should be more/less stringent, why?
3. How important are major victories? Why two and not three?
4. Why 15 wins and not 10? Or 20?

All important questions, and ones which the golf fans of the world should be able to weigh in on, rather than merely a selection committee of 16 people.

Let us know what you think, GolfWRX members!

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  1. Mike C

    May 18, 2018 at 9:29 pm

    What do you guys think about David Duval getting into the HOF? 13 wins, 1 major, 1 players, world #1 during Tigers prime, shot perhaps the best of the 59’s prior to the distance evolution with a wound ball and an eagle on the last hole to win. He was a bright star that burned out too quickly but I can’t think of anyone who made the game look easier than DD. I vote yes.

    • Mike

      May 20, 2018 at 9:28 am

      great player but for too short a time for me to consider as HOF material

  2. Jamie

    May 18, 2018 at 7:09 pm

    Under current rules, Tom Weiskopf and Fred Couples are not eligible. Something’s not right about this.

    • Jamie

      May 18, 2018 at 7:12 pm

      PS. I thought the rule is Wins AND Majors, not OR. Maybe I’m wrong.

      • Edward Brumby

        May 21, 2018 at 6:34 am

        Couples has 17 wins (15 PGA, two distinct European), a major, and two Players. So even if combined he easily gets in.

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Tweets of the Week: Stenson snaps, Rose’s shank of the year, and G-Mac loses his temper

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Shane Lowry produced the performance of his life to win the 2019 Open Championship at Royal Portrush, but in a great week of golf, here are some of the things you may have missed, and some of the quirkier moments from the world of golf dished out in the Twittersphere over the past seven days.

Impressions From The Open

Conor Moore on point as always!

Rose’s Shank Of The Year

The Englishman keeping the cameraman on his toes.

Matt Wallace And His Hero

Stenson Snaps

Beautiful technique from the big Swede.

G-Mac’s Frustration

When you find your ball 12 seconds too late…

Zach Appears On Phireside With Phil

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Brooks Koepka expresses his frustration over J.B. Holmes’ slow play at The Open

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Brooks Koepka began 2019 by calling out golf’s authorities for their lack of action over the slow play issue surrounding the game, and on Sunday at the Open Championship, the 29-year-old appeared visibly agitated over the speed of playing partner J.B. Holmes.

The two men teed off at 1.37 PM local time in the final round, and from their opening tee shots of the day, which Holmes would take significantly longer to play than his compatriot, it appeared the two could be in for an uncomfortable day with each other.

For the most part during Sunday’s final round, on the course, Koepka was to keep whatever frustrations which were bubbling under the surface to himself.

However, coming off the 12th green, the four-time major champ was seen staring at a rules official while motioning to his imaginary wristwatch, and on another occasion, the American looked less than impressed as his playing partner went through his deliberate putting routine.

Following their round, the 29-year-old was quick to point out that Holmes is far from being the only slow player on Tour, but explained what his biggest gripe was with the Kentuckian on Sunday at Royal Portrush – his inability to prepare when it wasn’t his turn.

“There are a lot of slow guys out here, that’s not the first time I’ve done it, especially when you’ve got a walking official with you. I’m ready to go most of the time.

That’s what I don’t understand when it’s your turn to hit, your glove is not on, then you start thinking about it, that’s where the problem lies. It’s not that he takes that long. He doesn’t do anything until his turn. That’s the frustrating part. But he’s not the only one that does it out here.”

Holmes’ nightmare performance didn’t help his pace of play as he struggled mightily in the harsh conditions during Sunday’s final round. The 37-year-old shot an 87 – 16 over par to move from third place at the start of the day to fourth last on six over.

Koepka had some sympathy for Holmes’ struggles in the wind and rain in Northern Ireland, but despite this, the Florida native made it clear that he still found the pace at times too slow.

“He had a rough day, but JB is a slow player. We were on pace for 13 holes, but if I’m in the group we’re going to be on pace no matter what. But there were some times where I thought it was slow.”

Koepka’s final round of 74 secured a T4 finish for the four-time major champ to complete an exceptional year at the major tournaments which included a win at the PGA Championship at Bethpage Black in May.

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How much each player won at the 2019 Open Championship

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Irishman Shane Lowry produced a fairytale victory at Royal Portrush, winning by six strokes and claiming the title of 2019 Champion Golfer of the Year. There was no stopping the man from Co. Offaly as he surged to victory on Sunday afternoon in the north of Ireland, and Lowry took home just shy of $2 million in prize money in the process.

This year’s Open Championship prize purse was raised to a total of $10.75 million, with this year’s champion pocketing almost $500,000 more than last year’s winner, Francesco Molinari.

Here we take a look at how much each player who played all 72 holes earned at the 2019 Open Championship.

1: Shane Lowry, 269/-15, $1,935,000

2: Tommy Fleetwood, 275/-9, $1,120,000

3: Tony Finau, 277/-7, $718,000

T4: Brooks Koepka, 278/-6, $503,500

T-4: Lee Westwood, 278/-6, $503,500

T-6: Rickie Fowler, 279/-5, $313,000

T-6: Tyrrell Hatton, 279/-5, $313,000

T-6: Robert MacIntyre, 279/-5, $313,000

T-6: Danny Willett, 279/-5, $313,000

10: Patrick Reed, 280/-4, $223,000

T-11: Tom Lewis, 281/-3, $171,700

T-11: Francesco Molinari, 281/-3, $171,700

T-11: Alex Noren, 281/-3, $171,700

T-11: Jon Rahm, 281/-3, $171,700

T-11: Justin Thomas, 281/-3, $171,700

T-16: Lucas Bjerregaard, 282/-2, $126,313

T-16: Ryan Fox, 282/-2, $126,313

T-16: Sanghyun Park, 282/-2, $126,313

T-16: Rory Sabbatini, 282/-2, $126,313

T-20: Stewart Cink, 283/-1, $91,350

T-20: Matthew Fitzpatrick, 283/-1, $91,350

T-20: Lucas Glover, 283/-1, $91,350

T-20: Louis Oosthuizen, 283/-1, $91,350

T-20: Doc Redman, 283/-1, $91,350

T-20: Justin Rose, 283/-1, $91,350

T-20: Cameron Smith, 283/-1, $91,350

T-20: Jordan Spieth, 283/-1, $91,350

T-20: Henrik Stenson, 283/-1, $91,350

T-20: Erik van Rooyen, 283/-1, $91,350

T-30: Kevin Kisner, 284/E, $69,875

T-30: Webb Simpson, 284/E, $69,875

T-32: Byeong Hun An, 285/1, $56,278

T-32: Kiradech Aphibarnrat, 285/1, $56,278

T-32: Ernie Els, 285/1, $56,278

T-32: Dylan Frittelli, 285/1, $56,278

T-32: Jason Kokrak, 285/1, $56,278

T-32: Joost Luiten, 285/1, $56,278

T-32: Andrew Putnam, 285/1, $56,278

T-32: Bernd Wiesberger, 285/1, $56,278

T-32: Andrew Wilson, 285/1, $56,278

T-41: Patrick Cantlay, 286/2, $36,925

T-41: Justin Harding, 286/2, $36,925

T-41: Benjamin Hebert, 286/2, $36,925

T-41: Innchoon Hwang, 286/2, $36,925

T-41: Russell Knox, 286/2, $36,925

T-41: Matt Kuchar, 286/2, $36,925

T-41: Xander Schauffele, 286/2, $36,925

T-41: Callum Shinkwin, 286/2, $36,925

T-41: Kyle Stanley, 286/2, $36,925

T-41: Aaron Wise, 286/2, $36,925

T-51: Branden Grace, 287/3, $28,317

T-51: Charley Hoffman, 287/3, $28,317

T-51: Dustin Johnson, 287/3, $28,317

T-51: Shubhankar Sharma, 287/3, $28,317

T-51: Matt Wallace, 287/3, $28,317

T-51: Bubba Watson, 287/3, $28,317

T-57: Paul Casey, 288/4, $26,467

T-57: Adam Hadwin, 288/4, $26,467

T-57: Graeme McDowell, 288/4, $26,467

T-57: Thorbjørn Olesen, 288/4, $26,467

T-57: Kevin Streelman, 288/4, $26,467

T-57: Ashton Turner, 288/4, $26,467

T-63: Jim Furyk, 289/5, $25,800

T-63: Mikko Korhonen, 289/5, $25,800

T-63: Romain Langasque, 289/5, $25,800

T-63: Paul Waring, 289/5, $25,800

T-67: Yosuke Asaji, 290/6, $25,088

T-67: Sergio Garcia, 290/6, $25,088

T-67: J.B. Holmes, 290/6, $25,088

T-67: Thomas Pieters, 290/6, $25,088

71: Eddie Pepperell, 292/8, $24,625

T-72: Nino Bertasio, 293/9, $24,438

T-72: Yuki Inamori, 293/9, $24,438

 

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