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Spotted: Nippon “Graphite On Steel Technology” hybrid prototype shafts

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Steel vs. graphite shafts, which is better for your game? It’s a question as old as the invention of graphite shafts for golf clubs.

Well, it appears that Nippon is combining steel and graphite with its new hybrid prototype shaft, with technology called “Graphite On Steel.” Based on the nomenclature and the photos we captured at the 2018 AT&T Byron Nelson on Monday, it seems that there is a layer of graphite surrounding a steel hybrid shaft.

And for what purpose? GolfWRX Members are guessing that the design could be for reduced vibration, or for great stability, but we’re yet to know for sure.

We’ve reached out to Nippon representatives and will update this story with more information as it becomes available. For now, click here for more photos and discussion.

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  1. Dave Bryce

    May 19, 2018 at 1:52 pm

    In the 90s I reshafted the bimatrix shaft for many customers. That shaft incorporated the same principles and proved to be more hype then substance! With that shaft I found the swingweights to be too high!

  2. KenW

    May 16, 2018 at 9:56 pm

    I too have a set of the Aerotech SteelFiber shafts which have steel thread wrapped around a graphite core and they were great, but a couple years ago I put Fujikura’s Metal Composite shafts (MCI) on my Calloway Apex irons and Wow! they are terrific shafts. Like the Nippon shafts, they have a graphite sleeve over a steel core shaft. Don’t know there’s a ton of difference but the Fujikura seem to have the perfect Flex and torque for my swing.

  3. ~j~

    May 16, 2018 at 12:43 pm

    A side from perhaps the steelfibers (never tried), has anyone even had much success intertwining steel and graphite?? Would think the extra labor/technology involved would largely go unnoticed by many and likely to be not worth the production cost.

  4. Buck Futter

    May 16, 2018 at 12:22 pm

    Graphite Hybrid On Steel Technology or GHOST for short
    Should make them in white

  5. Really Big Mike

    May 16, 2018 at 12:00 pm

    This technology looks to be very similar to Aerotech Steelfiber, who advertises that their shafts are longer and straighter with less effort and they avoid injury or aggravating previous injury.

  6. cinch bugs

    May 15, 2018 at 8:34 am

    Don’t knock it till you’e tried it…. just kidding knock away!

  7. Deadpool

    May 15, 2018 at 2:21 am

    Lets just go back to hickory. I like wood. My wood is good.

    • steve

      May 15, 2018 at 3:53 pm

      so yer regressing back to woodies and abandoning stiff steel and floppy graphite?

  8. steve

    May 14, 2018 at 6:08 pm

    SteelFiber shafts have filament-wound steel fibers over and internal graphite shaft… and now Nippon is putting the graphite over the steel shafting. Why are they doing this expensive solution to compensate for the failings of plain graphite shafts with floppy soggy tips with a sloppy dynamic response going through final release and impact?
    For SteelFiber: https://aerotechgolfshafts.com/

    • steve

      May 14, 2018 at 6:15 pm

      Furthermore.. most graphite shafts are oven-cured to harden the epoxy mix holding the graphite fibers. Not with Seven Dreamers graphite shafts which are autoclave cured that sucks out the excess epoxy plastic that causes the tip instability of other graphite shafts.
      Seven Dreamers: http://www.golfwrx.com/489200/a-qa-with-seven-dreamers-about-its-1200-shafts/

      • Deadpool

        May 15, 2018 at 2:22 am

        Yeah I am so intelligent and knowledgeable too, that Google lets me know everything too, steve

        • steve

          May 15, 2018 at 3:50 pm

          go back to the main WRX forum with all the gearheadbaters…

        • steve

          May 15, 2018 at 10:01 pm

          Yer the Google gearheadbater who can only tap twitter-sized blurts from yer shrunken brainlet.. so sooo obvious …. ????

      • Dan

        May 15, 2018 at 3:59 pm

        Does this guy just copy paste this app the time?

        • steve

          May 15, 2018 at 10:00 pm

          I remember all that scientific stuff because my smart brain is not ruined with a twitter blurting mentality…. just go to the main WRX forum and look at the juvenile comments in less than 140 characters… sooo pa thetic…

          • Not Steve

            May 15, 2018 at 11:14 pm

            Your smart brain and scientist stuff is on the wrong site for that you will incurred a stroke penalty and another for slow play

    • Josh

      May 14, 2018 at 11:29 pm

      Steelfiber convert here… I agree why put the graphite on top of the steel? Doesn’t make as much sense as the steel-fiber-weave wrapped around a traditional graphite shaft…

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Forum Thread of the Day: GolfWRX Members love this golf bag

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from Steelhead, who gave us a close look at his new Jones Trouper golf bag, and just like Steelhead, many of our members have been seriously impressed. The thread features plenty of in-hand photos of the new bags, and though many of our members have already dived in and ordered one for themselves, with Black Friday fast approaching, lots have been waiting for this week to get their hands on one.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say on the new golf bags at the link below.

  • Blink3665: “I’ve been lurking on this thread since it started.  With the Black Friday sale, I had to jump.  I grabbed a Navy bag with a few extra goodies (If I’m gonna pay for shipping I might as well grab a few other things, right?)”
  • slide13: “I’d say if you want to carry 14 clubs and don’t want a pretty tight fit, give the Trouper a try. I have the Utility, and it’s a cool bag, but I found it a super tight fit and not great with 14 clubs using midsize grips.  Maybe regular grips help.  I still like the bag, and I don’t mind using just 12 clubs or so which helps a little, but I’d still probably have found another solution if it was my main bag.”
  • Dubv23: “As soon as I pulled the trouper out of the box today I knew it was going to be my favorite bag.  It maintains a lot of the Utility styling but adds a lot of the features many wanted. The great thing is it does not make the bag that much bigger.  Its taller from the bottom of the opening to the top but not much wider and very well thought out. The material is different than past utilities, and I would assume it was to shed weight.  It has a hoofer like feel to the fabric but not so much to make it seem like it’s not a Jones bag. The opening is perfect and holds all 14 clubs perfect, the leg mechanism is smooth and much easier to release than the past, and the putter “well” is slick. “
  • mr.hicksta: “After seeing those additional pics, I’m even more excited about getting mine! Jones Golf doesn’t mess around with shipping, either. Mine looks like it’ll arrive on Monday, which is nice and quick from Oregon to Hawaii!”

Entire Thread: “2019 Jones Trouper Bag”

 

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Forum Thread of the Day: “Guys that shoot under par, what clubs do you use?”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from BiggEm, who asks those GolfWRX members that happen to break par consistently, what clubs they use. Driver and irons are the clubs in question which BiggEm is interested in hearing about, and as well as many posters submitting the clubs they use, an interesting debate regarding “arrow vs archer” has developed, as well as general playing tips from posters while out on the course.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • cm24: “5 years ago, When I was actually playing really well (for me), and I was in the +2 handicap range I was playing a set of Mizuno mp68 irons.  Sold those for AP2s and never have brought my game back.  I went thru 8 sets of irons over the three years after I sold the Mizunos and finally settled on a set of Srixon z965s.  I think those under par days are coming back, my birdies are going up as my proximity to the hole is going thru the roof, and it’s leading to confidence across my game.”
  • SASpeeder: “Not shooting under par quite as regularly anymore but still gaming the same equipment. Driver: Taylor M2 9.5” 2016 model with Diamana BF 60TX shaft. Irons: Miura CB1008 with KBS $Taper S+ shafts”
  • u2hockey14: “Adam Scott went back to his Titleist 910D3 this year due to accuracy issues, and he started to play better instantly. The bottom line is, for accomplished players, if you find a driver you can hit straight and are confident with it, stick with it. The extra 4-8 yards you get with “today’s” technology isn’t worth giving up that confidence and accuracy.”
  • leejohnkieh: “I’ve recently gotten my scores back down to even/under par after I got rid of drivers that didn’t work. For me, it’s all about feel and look. I went from 910d2 to a 17′ M1 to an M2 then to an M3 and now to the Ts3 in a span of 3 years. Tried every shaft known to man and I just could not get by round after round with TM drivers. Wildly inconsistent. I’d play tourneys not knowing where my driver was gonna go that day.”

Entire Thread: “Guys that shoot under par. What clubs do you use?”

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Charles Howell III’s winning WITB: 2018 RSM Classic

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Driver: Titleist TS3 (10.5 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei AV Blue 65

Fairway woods: Titleist TS2 (15, 21 degrees)
Shafts: Fujikura ATMOS Tour Spec Black 8X, Fujikura ATMOS Tour Spec Black 9X

Irons: Titleist 718 T-MB 4-iron, Titleist 718 AP2 (5-7), Titleist 718 CB (8-PW)
Shafts: Project X LZ 6.5 (hard stepped)

Wedges: Vokey SM7 (52, 56, 60 degrees)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold S400

Putter: TaylorMade Spider Tour Red

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Align

Ball: Titleist Pro V1 (proto)

SEA ISLAND, GA – NOVEMBER 17: Charles Howell lll tees off on the eighth hole tee box during the third round of The RSM Classic at the Sea Island Resort Seaside Course on November 17, 2018 in Sea Island, Georgia. (Photo by Ben Jared/PGA TOUR)

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