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Tiger’s take on LeBron, and what it takes to be considered great in sports

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LeBron James and Tiger Woods are both on the shortlist for GOAT status in their respective sports. Even their most ardent detractors–MJ was better! Jack was better!–will grant them that.

While James doesn’t play for one of Woods’ beloved Los Angeles teams, it sounds like TW has kept a close eye on the King’s career and has been following along as he turns in brilliant playoff performance after brilliant playoff performance.

Talking with reporters ahead of The Players, Woods answered a question about LeBron’s greatness with some solid insights.

“First of all, I think that being great is doing something that no one can do, but also what separates those people – the ones that you mentioned, like LeBron or what I’m thinking the M.J. or Gretzky – it’s just the duration. They’re able to do it not just for one year, not just for one game, not just for a little spell. They’re able to do it for a number of years and accumulate highlights that we’ll always look at, and they’re peppered in our memories.

“To dominate something is one thing. Every player out here can have one good week and blow away the field. OK, great. Now, can you do it for month? Can you do it for a year? Now, do it for a decade. Do it for a decade-plus. Then start separating what is truly great, and in our sport, there has been a few guys that have had runs that have lasted for well over a decade and into two. And that’s what separates greatness.

“What LeBron has done for what, 15 seasons now, is just remarkable. Because it’s that type of longevity and to be able to be up for that long a period of time. And to be able to adjust as well because we all know as we age, we’re not going to be as athletic as we used to be. And so you have to do it different ways. And to be fluid and adjust and still be that talented and that good, hats off to not just LeBron but a lot of the people I just named.”

You can see the clip below.

Woods hits the nail on the head with respect to greatness in sport in general and golf in particular, doesn’t he? Every single guy on the PGA Tour can go out and shoot 63. Fewer can consistently put together four good rounds week to week, fewer still year to year.

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  1. Johnny Penso

    May 10, 2018 at 10:47 am

    Can’t disagree with that. Greatness is anchored in longevity and all the great ones, or at least those not plagued with health issues or other demons, had it. Gretzky, Lemieux, Crosby, Orr (injuries), Howe, Bourque etc. etc. etc. Hank Aaron had 40 HR, 96 RBI’s and batted .301…at age 39!! He had 15 seasons with more than 30 homers!!

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Ricky Barnes DQd at the Byron Nelson

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Ricky Barnes took a trip to Dairy Queen at the AT&T Byron Nelson. Barnes was disqualified following his second round 1-over 72. He signed for a three at the par-4 sixth hole, when in fact he had made a par.

Ultimately, he won’t rue his impromptu trip to get a Blizzard: Barnes was 3 over and was in no danger of making the cut.

Because this is the world we live in, Barnes apparently found out about the DQ via LuckyTrout Golf Pool on Twitter.

Of course, no scorecard error will ever top “What a stupid I am,” Roberto De Vicenzo signing for 66 when he shot 65, handing the green jacket to Bob Goalby at the 1968 Masters. Such an unfortunate legacy for a man who won hundreds of tournaments around the world.

Also unfortunate: Ricky Barnes is on the way for being remembered as a man who never lived up to the promise he showed at that same tournament, The Masters, as an amateur.

Let’s hope that changes.

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WATCH/LOOK AWAY: Jordan Spieth misses a 15-inch putt

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Aren’t you glad there isn’t video of all the 15-inch putts you’ve missed? I certainly am.

Unfortunately for Jordan Spieth, his failed attempt from little more than a foot at the Byron Nelson was captured on video, and it will exist on the internet for all eternity.

Spieth, who has struggled with the flatstick lately, stood over a short par putt at the par-4 15th hole, and well…

Spieth is currently 183rd on the PGA Tour this season in strokes gained: putting, losing .412 strokes per round to the field on the greens.

But at least he hit the hole, right?

Here’s the offending weapon: Spieth’s trusty Scotty Cameron 009.

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GolfWRX members debate: What should the World Golf Hall of Fame criteria be?

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There have been a couple of controversial inclusions on the World Golf Hall of Fame. This isn’t to rehash, say, Fred Couples earning a spot, but rather, take a look at entry criteria.

More specifically, GolfWRX member playar32 writes

“I know the actual criteria is 15 tour wins, or 2 majors/Players championship. But what’s YOUR minimum?…For example, if a player won a “B” tournament every year (the one opposite a WGC event), every year in a row for 15 years, but missed the cut in every other event, would you still considered them HOF?”

It’s an interesting point. Specifically, the World Golf Hall of Fame criteria for an active male golfer is as follows.

“A player must have a cumulative total of 15 or more official victories on any of the original members of the International Federation of PGA Tours (PGA TOUR, European Tour, Japan Golf Tour, Sunshine Tour, Asian Tour and PGA of Australasia) OR at least two victories among the following events: The Masters, THE PLAYERS Championship, the U.S. Open, The Open Championship and the PGA Championship.”

Further, a player must be at least 50 or five years removed from competition.

Here are some other WRX members’ takes.

Bladehunter says

“15 tour wins and 2 majors for me. Otherwise almost every 1 major winner out there is in.”

McCann1 says

“If we won’t remember your name without the HOF in 50 years I think you shouldn’t be in.”

Fowlerscousin says

“If any of these three criteria are met: 3 or more majors. Minimum 5 Ryder cup appearances. 15 tour victories.”

Hawkeye77 says

“Whatever the criteria are, don’t ever think about it unless someone whose speech I want to hear gets in.’

Golfer929 has more stringent standards

“20 Wins. 3 Majors. 2 Ryder Cup/President Cup appearances. 100 total weeks inside Top 50 OWGR.”

Golfgirlrobin says

“I’d like to see them go to some sort of point system like the LPGA uses. Factor in everything that’s important and let the chips fall where they may.”

You’ll want to check out the rest of what GolfWRX members have to say in the thread.

There are a ton off questions to consider when thinking about which current/recent players should make the HoF.

A few…

1. Should the standards be on par with other sports? If so, what does that look like?
2. If the WGHOF should be more/less stringent, why?
3. How important are major victories? Why two and not three?
4. Why 15 wins and not 10? Or 20?

All important questions, and ones which the golf fans of the world should be able to weigh in on, rather than merely a selection committee of 16 people.

Let us know what you think, GolfWRX members!

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