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Tiger Woods is 2nd in swing speed, 24th in driving distance. GolfWRX members discuss
GolfWRX member cavemeister took a look at Tiger Woods’ stats, and something didn’t add up for him.
Here’s what he saw.
- Tiger Woods is 24th on the PGA Tour in average driving distance at 306.6 yards.
- Tiger Woods is 2nd on the PGA Tour in average clubhead speed at 122.04 mph
Now, only drives that find the fairway are measured, and swing speed is only recorded a couple of times per round, but what gives, cavemeister wonders in a forum thread.
Not surprisingly, WRX members had a range of opinions for the disparity between TW’s swing speed and driving distance.
Flog2 points out
“distance is only measured when you are on the fairway!”
Woods is doing the above at just over 51 percent this season, so the sample may be small.
Torrujean suggests Woods may not be finding the center of the clubface on some of the measured drives.
“Quality of strike does not match the speed.”
MSUIRONDAWGS says
“You have to understand also, that distance is only measured for official stats on a few holes on Tour. So if he happens to hit 3 wood on one of those holes, the avg distance comes down in the calculation of his 3 or 4 holes that day.”
And of course, there conspiracy theorists, such as QuigleyDU…
“the numbers are not accurate.”
Shot-savior may have the best take
“So many variables:
1. Quality of strike
2. Launch/Spin
3. Type of shot played; high/low, fade/draw
4. Run out versus carry
5. Favorable bounce; catching the slope
6. Landing in fairway first versus hitting in rough then kicking into fairway
7. Riding the wind or knocking it under the wind
8. And so on…
High SS is the best indicator of potential distance. But, it’s conditional and there’s some luck involved to. That’s why we periodically see lower SS players out drive the highest SS players on tour. There are always random outliers not consistent with normal findings.”
See the thread for more replies.
What do you think, GolfWRX members? Is this interesting, or meh? There are clearly a number of possible explanations…which do you find the most plausible?
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Man charged with stealing millions of dollars worth of memorabilia from Augusta National
According to a report from the Chicago Tribune, a man has been charged in Chicago with stealing millions of dollars’ worth of memorabilia from Augusta National.
The man, Robert Globensky, was charged with transporting the memorabilia across state lines.
The report states that between 2009 and 2022, Globensky allegedly transported “millions of dollars’ worth of Masters golf tournament merchandise and historical memorabilia” from Augusta National “and transported to Tampa, Florida, knowing the same had been stolen, converted and taken by fraud.”
The document was filed Tuesday in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois.
Per the court records there is no mention that Globensky worked for the golf club.
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Talor Gooch: 54 holes is more exciting for the fans
Over the past few weeks, two of LIV Golf’s biggest stars, Jon Rahm and Phil Mickelson, have both expressed that they believe LIV could go to 72 holes.
While speaking to BBC Sport, Rahm said he “wouldn’t mind” going to 72 holes.
“If there ever was a way where LIV could go to 72 holes I think it would help all of this argument a lot.”
“The closer I think we can get LIV Golf to some other things the better. I think it would be for some kind of unification to feed into a world tour or something like that.
“I don’t know if I’m alone in this, but I definitely wouldn’t mind going back to 72 holes.”
Phil Mickelson, while speaking after his final round at The Masters, also said he “wouldn’t be surprised” if LIV went to 72 holes.
“I don’t think it makes a difference either way. We’ve got mini-tours playing 54, Champions Tour playing 54. I wouldn’t be surprised if some or all of LIV events went to 72. I don’t know, but it doesn’t matter. I enjoy the competition.”
Another one of LIV’s top players, Talor Gooch, expressed on Wednesday that he feels quite differently.
“It’s just funny to me, this arbitrary number of 72.”
“Why is it not 90? “Why is it not 108? We just decided to make that number the number, for what reason?”
“Everyone’s talked about world ranking points and all this stuff, but no one’s talked about what do the fans enjoy more?”
“People want something that’s going to be more exciting. And I personally think that the 54 holes is more exciting for the fans.”
After Gooch’s comments, I decided to get some fan feedback for myself, making a poll on X. With about 4,500 votes in at the time of writing this, roughly 84% of voters in the poll indicated they’d prefer 72 holes to just 16% saying they’d prefer 54.
Rahm prefers 72 holes
Gooch prefers 54 holesWhere do the fans stand?
— Matt Vincenzi (@MattVincenziPGA) April 17, 2024
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Brandel Chamblee has ‘no doubt’ who started the McIlroy/LIV rumor and why
Earlier this week, rumors began to fly that Rory McIlroy could be making a shock switch to LIV Golf which caused quite the stir on social media.
However, on Tuesday, McIlroy emphatically shut down those rumors, telling Golf Channel’s Todd Lewis at the RBC Heritage at Harbour Town:
“I honestly don’t know how these things get started. I’ve never been offered a number from LIV and I’ve never contemplated going to LIV. Again I think I’ve made it clear over the past two years that I don’t think it’s something for me.
It’s unfortunate that we have to deal with it and this is the state that our game’s in. I’m obviously here today and I’m playing this PGA Tour event next week and I will play the PGA Tour for the rest of my career.”
Golf Channel analyst and longtime LIV critic, Brandel Chamblee, took to social media before McIlroy’s statement to point the finger at “Saudis/LIV,” who he believes started the rumor:
I have no doubt that this rumor was started by Saudis/LIV… to benefit Saudis/LIV after such a poor showing, as a group, at The Masters.
I’d be very surprised if this turns out to be true. https://t.co/SWNgjHtWSM
— Brandel Chamblee (@chambleebrandel) April 16, 2024
When one user pushed back on Chamblee’s claim that LIV golfers had a poor showing at the Masters, Brandel went further into why he believes the opening major of the year was a failure for the breakaway tour.
You think they paid 3 billion for a few top tens and to be +82 as a group at major? A senior citizen beat some of their “stars” and almost all the game’s of LIV players have deteriorated since they sold their souls to the Saudis who only bought a moment in time… nothing else. https://t.co/xERkYsztIJ
— Brandel Chamblee (@chambleebrandel) April 16, 2024
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