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Deja vu: Video review leads to a rules violation on the LPGA Tour

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While it didn’t cost her the tournament (poor final-round play did that), Nicole Broch Larsen incurred the wrath of video review at the Volunteers of America Texas Classic.

Broch Larsen was six under during her Saturday effort amid the weather-decimated tournament. Video review revealed she caused her ball to move at her second-to-last hole of the day.

Unwelcome stuff for Broch Larsen, yes, but making matters worse: an on-course rules official told her there was no infraction. She played on accordingly, and was retroactively hit with a one-stroke penalty. However, as she was following the guidance of a rules official, the LPGA didn’t assess an additional penalty stroke for playing a ball out of position.

You can see the incident in the Golf Channel video below.

The violation of Rule 18-2 is pretty clear, as it’s the act of Broch Larsen addressing the ball that caused it to move, rather than an outside agency. That said, it’s another curious case. To so-called “Lexi Thompson Rule” isn’t in effect, as the movement of the ball was readily apparent to the naked eye.

The tournament was a near washout, adding another layer of oddity to this incident. No golf was played Thursday. Friday’s round got started eight hours late, and the tournament was reduced to 36 holes.

Broch Larsen finished tied for 12th, six strokes behind winner Sung Hyun Park (-11).

Do you think Broch Larsen knew she’d committed a violation, but wasn’t aware she could still be penalized despite what the rules official said? Do you think she was genuinely unsure and trusted the opinion of the official? How did the official get it so wrong? What say you, GolfWRX members?

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  1. Todd Dugan

    May 8, 2018 at 2:41 pm

    Its pure speculation here as to what the conversation was between the player and rules official. Almost certainly, the video footage revealed a reality different than what the player reported. Having said that, the old rule was simple; if you grounded your club, you were DEEMED to have caused the ball to move. Now, maybe you did, maybe you didn’t. Who knows? Finally, there should be NO PENALTY at all for a ball at rest moved.

  2. One Day At A Time

    May 8, 2018 at 1:27 am

    I just want to point out how much perspective shift there would have been if she had called a penalty on herself without a rules official. It’s a bad rule, her intent was clear, but she had an opportunity to highlight those things, and, let’s be honest- did she really need an interpretation of the rule? No.

  3. Law Prof

    May 8, 2018 at 12:44 am

    I don’t think it was a fait accompli that she caused the ball to move. One can address a ball on a hillside and that ball may be about to move at any moment and then it moves completely incidental to addressing it. It wasn’t obvious to me, just jumping right out, that she’d touched the ball. I don’t know, but that’s a tough call.

    • Law Prof

      May 8, 2018 at 12:50 am

      …and yes, I understand she didn’t have to touch the ball to be penalized, but nonetheless, it wasn’t obvious to me that her address of the ball caused it to move. A judgment call. Which should be properly made by the official on the scene, not second-guessed after the fact. And again, at best it’s guesswork, an opinion. Probably she caused the ball to move, but only God knows, and it’s anything but certain.

  4. MacAllan

    May 7, 2018 at 11:01 pm

    Looks like LPGA has become more a video game then a live sport.

  5. Jon

    May 7, 2018 at 9:03 pm

    On that premise, If a rules official gets it wrong does she not get her stroke back later?

  6. Fyearoldgolfer

    May 7, 2018 at 6:31 pm

    Video won’t play, just audio

  7. Wiger Toods

    May 7, 2018 at 5:51 pm

    Hey ref, is that a foul?

    No.

    *game ends*

    Let’s go back and take free throws…

  8. Caroline

    May 7, 2018 at 4:33 pm

    You can bet the 10 or 20 spectators at that LPGA event did not see anything….If rules officials do not mean anything why have them…once a rule official says strike or ball it should be over…this action is just one more reason the LPGA is hurting…

  9. Jack

    May 7, 2018 at 4:19 pm

    Total BS. If the rules official deems it wasn’t an infraction, that is the end of it.

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Ricky Barnes DQd at the Byron Nelson

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Ricky Barnes took a trip to Dairy Queen at the AT&T Byron Nelson. Barnes was disqualified following his second round 1-over 72. He signed for a three at the par-4 sixth hole, when in fact he had made a par.

Ultimately, he won’t rue his impromptu trip to get a Blizzard: Barnes was 3 over and was in no danger of making the cut.

Because this is the world we live in, Barnes apparently found out about the DQ via LuckyTrout Golf Pool on Twitter.

Of course, no scorecard error will ever top “What a stupid I am,” Roberto De Vicenzo signing for 66 when he shot 65, handing the green jacket to Bob Goalby at the 1968 Masters. Such an unfortunate legacy for a man who won hundreds of tournaments around the world.

Also unfortunate: Ricky Barnes is on the way for being remembered as a man who never lived up to the promise he showed at that same tournament, The Masters, as an amateur.

Let’s hope that changes.

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WATCH/LOOK AWAY: Jordan Spieth misses a 15-inch putt

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Aren’t you glad there isn’t video of all the 15-inch putts you’ve missed? I certainly am.

Unfortunately for Jordan Spieth, his failed attempt from little more than a foot at the Byron Nelson was captured on video, and it will exist on the internet for all eternity.

Spieth, who has struggled with the flatstick lately, stood over a short par putt at the par-4 15th hole, and well…

Spieth is currently 183rd on the PGA Tour this season in strokes gained: putting, losing .412 strokes per round to the field on the greens.

But at least he hit the hole, right?

Here’s the offending weapon: Spieth’s trusty Scotty Cameron 009.

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GolfWRX members debate: What should the World Golf Hall of Fame criteria be?

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There have been a couple of controversial inclusions on the World Golf Hall of Fame. This isn’t to rehash, say, Fred Couples earning a spot, but rather, take a look at entry criteria.

More specifically, GolfWRX member playar32 writes

“I know the actual criteria is 15 tour wins, or 2 majors/Players championship. But what’s YOUR minimum?…For example, if a player won a “B” tournament every year (the one opposite a WGC event), every year in a row for 15 years, but missed the cut in every other event, would you still considered them HOF?”

It’s an interesting point. Specifically, the World Golf Hall of Fame criteria for an active male golfer is as follows.

“A player must have a cumulative total of 15 or more official victories on any of the original members of the International Federation of PGA Tours (PGA TOUR, European Tour, Japan Golf Tour, Sunshine Tour, Asian Tour and PGA of Australasia) OR at least two victories among the following events: The Masters, THE PLAYERS Championship, the U.S. Open, The Open Championship and the PGA Championship.”

Further, a player must be at least 50 or five years removed from competition.

Here are some other WRX members’ takes.

Bladehunter says

“15 tour wins and 2 majors for me. Otherwise almost every 1 major winner out there is in.”

McCann1 says

“If we won’t remember your name without the HOF in 50 years I think you shouldn’t be in.”

Fowlerscousin says

“If any of these three criteria are met: 3 or more majors. Minimum 5 Ryder cup appearances. 15 tour victories.”

Hawkeye77 says

“Whatever the criteria are, don’t ever think about it unless someone whose speech I want to hear gets in.’

Golfer929 has more stringent standards

“20 Wins. 3 Majors. 2 Ryder Cup/President Cup appearances. 100 total weeks inside Top 50 OWGR.”

Golfgirlrobin says

“I’d like to see them go to some sort of point system like the LPGA uses. Factor in everything that’s important and let the chips fall where they may.”

You’ll want to check out the rest of what GolfWRX members have to say in the thread.

There are a ton off questions to consider when thinking about which current/recent players should make the HoF.

A few…

1. Should the standards be on par with other sports? If so, what does that look like?
2. If the WGHOF should be more/less stringent, why?
3. How important are major victories? Why two and not three?
4. Why 15 wins and not 10? Or 20?

All important questions, and ones which the golf fans of the world should be able to weigh in on, rather than merely a selection committee of 16 people.

Let us know what you think, GolfWRX members!

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