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A PGA Tour-LPGA Tour tournament is on the horizon…but what should the format be?



Speaking after the two-man competition at the Zurich Classic, commissioner Jay Monahan told reporters we could soon see PGA Tour and LPGA Tour players competing in the same event.

“We’re very interested in getting the men and women together inside the ropes in the same week and in the same competition,” Monahan said. “I think that’s something you’ll see in the future. It’s just a matter of time. That’s really exciting and interesting.”

LPGA Tour commissioner, Mike Whan, is of the same mind. He told Golf Channel earlier in the week.

“We still have significant interest in developing joint events,” Whan said. “We have a team made up of representatives from both organizations who are vetting different approaches. Personally, I don’t care if it’s a full-field official event, some kind of mixed team, or a limited-number, made-for-TV event – as any/all would create significant fan, media, and player interest/excitement.”

As we’ve discussed recently, the 2018-2019 PGA Tour calendar is yet to be finalized. Despite the increased will from both tours, no concrete proposal has emerged for a PGA-LPGA Tour event next year.

In light of this fact, and Mike Whan’s indication that the door is wide open with respect to format, we’d like to know what you’d like to see, GolfWRX members. What format would work best? Any thought to where the tournament should fall in the calendar?

Let us know!


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  1. m c organ

    Apr 30, 2018 at 9:45 pm

    i think the old j c penny format was pretty good…….would love to see a mixed team event

  2. jmvargas

    Apr 30, 2018 at 6:20 pm

    alternate men’s and ladies tees every day–ie–#1 is men’s tees #2 is ladies tees etc…..

    same format as Zurich 2018…

    choose top 72 players each based on world rankings and pair #1 men with #72 ladies,#1 ladies with #72 men etc…down the line..

    total prize money at least $5M…1st prize $1m/2…

    schedule between Masters and US Open..

  3. BillyBogey

    Apr 30, 2018 at 2:51 pm

    Make it same format as the Zurich. Keep it simple.
    Ask some of the Player’s for their input.
    Play 1st. or 2nd. w/e of Dec. Theme it a Fun Event.
    Even have their own Walk Up Music. Cool!!
    Let’s Do It!!

  4. DougE

    Apr 30, 2018 at 12:48 pm

    Stroke play. Same purse for all. Offer respective FedEx and CME Globe points. Mixed 3-somes based on luck of the draw. So there’s potential for some unique groupings. Like maybe Michele Wie, Lexi Thompson and Zack Johnson all in the same group. Men from 7400 yards, Women from 6400. I love Zack, but my money’s on Lexi in that pairing. Not that Tiger would ever play in something corny, but it would be cool to see him in a group with Cheyenne Woods, going head to head with his niece. (He’d eat her lunch.) I would not be surprised to see a woman win the event. In fact, I think it would be pretty cool to watch a tight Sunday finish…and maybe even a playoff, with a top level guy and a top level girl fighting it out, her only advantage being the 1000 yd shorter course. I’d watch, for sure.

    • M Smith

      May 1, 2018 at 4:42 pm

      Because of the physiological differences between men’s and women’s bodies, specifically the type and location of upper body muscles, women have the potential to hit the ball about 85% of the distance of men. So a 7400 yard course for men and a 6300 yard course for women would present an equal challenge. A woman would not have an advantage. It would be equal.

  5. joro

    Apr 30, 2018 at 12:27 pm

    DUH, are they really this stupid? They had one a few years ago sponsored by J C Penny Co. where LPGA and PGA players teamed up. It was canceled eventually for lack of interest, which is where the LPGA is going under Whan if they don’t start enforcing the new slow play and dress code rules. The last Tourney if it had not been for the Korean fans would have had nobody watching.

  6. Ryan

    Apr 30, 2018 at 4:27 am

    Stroke play. Men and woman different tee box.

  7. youknow

    Apr 29, 2018 at 11:30 pm

    Top 100 men play Augusta and Top 100 women watch.

  8. Tommy

    Apr 29, 2018 at 9:39 pm

    I’d love to see alternate shot with mixed pairs. We’d get to see the guys hitting long irons into greens on every other hole for a change. It could be interesting, or very boring seeing them miss greens like the rest of us.

  9. dj

    Apr 29, 2018 at 8:54 pm

    Day 1 foursome, day 2 four ball. It would make an interesting tournament.

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Ricky Barnes DQd at the Byron Nelson



Ricky Barnes took a trip to Dairy Queen at the AT&T Byron Nelson. Barnes was disqualified following his second round 1-over 72. He signed for a three at the par-4 sixth hole, when in fact he had made a par.

Ultimately, he won’t rue his impromptu trip to get a Blizzard: Barnes was 3 over and was in no danger of making the cut.

Because this is the world we live in, Barnes apparently found out about the DQ via LuckyTrout Golf Pool on Twitter.

Of course, no scorecard error will ever top “What a stupid I am,” Roberto De Vicenzo signing for 66 when he shot 65, handing the green jacket to Bob Goalby at the 1968 Masters. Such an unfortunate legacy for a man who won hundreds of tournaments around the world.

Also unfortunate: Ricky Barnes is on the way for being remembered as a man who never lived up to the promise he showed at that same tournament, The Masters, as an amateur.

Let’s hope that changes.

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WATCH/LOOK AWAY: Jordan Spieth misses a 15-inch putt



Aren’t you glad there isn’t video of all the 15-inch putts you’ve missed? I certainly am.

Unfortunately for Jordan Spieth, his failed attempt from little more than a foot at the Byron Nelson was captured on video, and it will exist on the internet for all eternity.

Spieth, who has struggled with the flatstick lately, stood over a short par putt at the par-4 15th hole, and well…

Spieth is currently 183rd on the PGA Tour this season in strokes gained: putting, losing .412 strokes per round to the field on the greens.

But at least he hit the hole, right?

Here’s the offending weapon: Spieth’s trusty Scotty Cameron 009.

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GolfWRX members debate: What should the World Golf Hall of Fame criteria be?



There have been a couple of controversial inclusions on the World Golf Hall of Fame. This isn’t to rehash, say, Fred Couples earning a spot, but rather, take a look at entry criteria.

More specifically, GolfWRX member playar32 writes

“I know the actual criteria is 15 tour wins, or 2 majors/Players championship. But what’s YOUR minimum?…For example, if a player won a “B” tournament every year (the one opposite a WGC event), every year in a row for 15 years, but missed the cut in every other event, would you still considered them HOF?”

It’s an interesting point. Specifically, the World Golf Hall of Fame criteria for an active male golfer is as follows.

“A player must have a cumulative total of 15 or more official victories on any of the original members of the International Federation of PGA Tours (PGA TOUR, European Tour, Japan Golf Tour, Sunshine Tour, Asian Tour and PGA of Australasia) OR at least two victories among the following events: The Masters, THE PLAYERS Championship, the U.S. Open, The Open Championship and the PGA Championship.”

Further, a player must be at least 50 or five years removed from competition.

Here are some other WRX members’ takes.

Bladehunter says

“15 tour wins and 2 majors for me. Otherwise almost every 1 major winner out there is in.”

McCann1 says

“If we won’t remember your name without the HOF in 50 years I think you shouldn’t be in.”

Fowlerscousin says

“If any of these three criteria are met: 3 or more majors. Minimum 5 Ryder cup appearances. 15 tour victories.”

Hawkeye77 says

“Whatever the criteria are, don’t ever think about it unless someone whose speech I want to hear gets in.’

Golfer929 has more stringent standards

“20 Wins. 3 Majors. 2 Ryder Cup/President Cup appearances. 100 total weeks inside Top 50 OWGR.”

Golfgirlrobin says

“I’d like to see them go to some sort of point system like the LPGA uses. Factor in everything that’s important and let the chips fall where they may.”

You’ll want to check out the rest of what GolfWRX members have to say in the thread.

There are a ton off questions to consider when thinking about which current/recent players should make the HoF.

A few…

1. Should the standards be on par with other sports? If so, what does that look like?
2. If the WGHOF should be more/less stringent, why?
3. How important are major victories? Why two and not three?
4. Why 15 wins and not 10? Or 20?

All important questions, and ones which the golf fans of the world should be able to weigh in on, rather than merely a selection committee of 16 people.

Let us know what you think, GolfWRX members!

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