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Scott Van Pelt’s take on renewed fan appreciation for Tiger Woods. Do you agree?

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Tiger Woods has been the most popular and widely rooted-for golfer since turning pro in 1996. This holds true among golf fans and general sports fans alike. And despite what his detractors might say and their arguments as to why this should not be the case, it is. Overwhelmingly so.

In the course of Woods’ latest comeback from injury, beginning at the 2017 Hero World Challenge, we’ve seen a little different flavor to fan adoration, and a little different response from Woods himself.

Michael Williams, speaking with ESPN’s Scott Van Pelt on the 19th Hole podcast, asked Van Pelt for his perspective on the Tiger love.

Van Pelt offered an excellent reply.

“Here’s why in my opinion. At 21, or 25, or 28 whatever stage you want to pick when he’s truly this Superman and he’s flying above everyone else and he’s destroying people, we can’t relate to any of that. None of it is part of the human experience that we know, but at 40-something with a bald spot and with some kids and with some miles on the tires and some bumps in the road that you’ve hit and some other things you’ve run into that were your own mistakes, we can relate to all of that.

“We can relate to the frailty of human condition and we can relate to being fallible, and we can relate to being imperfect and I think that we … When I say we, I mean what I presume we are seeing in golf fans. With golf fans turning on their televisions in record numbers and who bought record numbers of tickets in Tampa, what those people are saying, in my opinion, are we want that guy who we know is fallible and frail and human. We want to see that guy do it again and whether it’s one more time or ten more times we want to see it again, because societally we have this really interesting habit of wanting to tear down what we built up and then wanting to see it get back to that place.

“I think the love of the galleries it’s unreal. Monday he comes out and walks onto the range and you hear this roar and it’s a Monday and he’s walking out to the range and people are cheering. They’re so excited to see him.

“Here’s the thing, I get that there’s pushback. I get that there are people who don’t root for him and that’s fine. You see it on social media, this, that and the other and you don’t have to root for him, but to those people to try to pretend like they’re not in a minority is a joke. The overwhelming majority of people that are watching, are watching to see one guy and it’s Tiger Woods.”

What do you think about SVP’s take, GolfWRX members? Has he hit the nail on the head in describing this new flavor of Tiger fandom? Is is the enthusiasm merely the product of absence making fans hearts grow fonder?

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  1. Alex

    Apr 11, 2018 at 3:45 pm

    I think SVP is right on the money. That’s not to say people should or should not be rooting for him, they just are. And the other players are fine with that because Tiger means more viewers and that keeps the prize money up. It would’ve been one of the greatest sports stories of all time if Tiger had won but it was RIDICULOUS that anyone was considering him the favorite. (I’m talking to you, Golf Channel.)

  2. Hilly

    Apr 10, 2018 at 2:59 pm

    I can’t stand when people think Tigers getting too much media attention. Tigers in pretty good shape to make the greatest sports comeback of all time. Absolutely he’s going to get more coverage. Tiger is what the majority of golf fans want to see.

  3. Boyo

    Apr 10, 2018 at 6:39 am

    Shank this.

  4. A. Commoner

    Apr 9, 2018 at 9:28 pm

    Welcome to the Dr. Phil and The Great Karnak Hour.

  5. Warwick Weedon

    Apr 9, 2018 at 2:55 pm

    Van Pelt is right. We all (majority) want to see Tiger playing well again and he has done amazingly well in his comeback.

  6. Dixie doc

    Apr 9, 2018 at 12:03 pm

    Tiger beat Couples and Langer by 1 stroke. I barely saw a flicker of either of them on the screen but I saw an average Joe time after time. It gets old because as much as the media want him to win he can’t right now and there are better players who are worth watching.

    • Andrew

      Apr 9, 2018 at 12:18 pm

      Agreed. The media’s coverage was completely pathetic lapdog. They wanted so much for Rory to be the story come Sunday too. Congrats Patrick for not giving them what they want.

  7. Rev G

    Apr 9, 2018 at 9:54 am

    If your a person who only watches golf when Tiger is on or only goes to a tournament when Tiger is there, then you are not a golf fan – you are just a Tiger fan. There’s nothing wrong with that it’s just true. There are many many golf fans who don’t want to watch golf when he’s in a tournament because he gets all the attention and the announcers seem to talk about only him and the coverage of the tournament is decreased to focus on him. Yes this group of people is probably a minority – but it is still a large amount – and they are golf fans. I love watching Tiger because he is a great golfer, but I want coverage of all the other golfers too. And it can get very annoying when the coverage is solely on him. Many people, particularly older, more conservative people – turn off the TV when the coverage becomes Tiger only. Part of that is the annoyance of Tiger centered coverage and part of that is because they don’t like him because of his personal life mistakes. These people would much rather watch Rickie Fowler and Jordan Spieth.

  8. Bagger Vance

    Apr 9, 2018 at 8:42 am

    Scott Van Putz is wrong.

  9. G

    Apr 9, 2018 at 7:30 am

    Who wanted to see a guy playing at even par or worse while the leaders were -10 and better in the final round. Most golfers want to see the best golfers in the world playing not some has-been trying to make a comeback. This obsession with Woods will cost the PGA tour in the long run.

    • Paul

      Apr 9, 2018 at 12:30 pm

      Who do you suggest they show in featured groups at 11:00 on a Sunday? Keep in mind everyone teeing off at that time is +4

    • Boyo

      Apr 10, 2018 at 6:40 am

      Wahh wahh wahh

    • Anser

      Apr 10, 2018 at 8:50 am

      The answer to your question… is most people that aren’t hardcore golf fans. He’s still the one who moves the needle.

      Jordan and Justin could walk down any mall in America and people would be clueless who they were.

  10. Illin'

    Apr 9, 2018 at 2:02 am

    No. Eldrick will always and forever be a sick adulterer. We should all let his kids know that so that they suffer for his ills.

    • Common sense

      Apr 9, 2018 at 1:19 pm

      Why would you make his kids suffer for his discretions? How does that even make any sense?

      • Way

        Apr 9, 2018 at 7:02 pm

        Why not. It’s a sick world out there that lets these sickos live just because they have money and the law wrote down who can and will shut up

        • Tim

          Apr 9, 2018 at 7:10 pm

          Your a complete ignorant buffoon and I only pray to God you are not a parent. If u are it’s your precious kids that everyone needs to worry about!

    • Boyo

      Apr 10, 2018 at 6:41 am

      Let ye who have no sins cast the first stone, you pos.

    • TigerJr

      Apr 10, 2018 at 7:04 am

      I hope I meet your daughter some day ;o)

  11. Joe A

    Apr 8, 2018 at 8:27 pm

    I don’t care if Tiger is playing or not, but it’s all the media hype that goes with it is impossible to get through for people who want to enjoy golf for golf’s sake and not be inundated by Tiger news 24/7. How many players who were 16 shots out of the lead got interviews on a Sunday? How many people got multiple replays and coverage for being that far out? None but Tiger.

    It’s just too much. Not knocking his contribution to the game, but seriously.

  12. Jacko

    Apr 8, 2018 at 8:12 pm

    Scott Van Pelt is an annoying person. Tiger was great in his day but now he is more an older journey man golfer. TV should focus on players playing well not some guy 18 shots back with a hit or miss back.

    • Warwick Weedon

      Apr 9, 2018 at 2:52 pm

      You don’t get it Jacko. The world wants to see the 2nd greatest golfer that ever lived!

      • RS

        Apr 10, 2018 at 5:25 am

        Jack Nicklaus hit the first tee shot, so there’s #2 still in action. Tiger is #1 without question.

    • Boyo

      Apr 10, 2018 at 6:43 am

      Jacko me off.

  13. Joe

    Apr 8, 2018 at 1:13 pm

    I think golf is fine with or without Tiger there is no denying his popularity and I would be happy to celebrate his winning the Masters again- the hard work it takes, the nerve it takes, we should all be happy with whoever wins this great(est) tournament.

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The Houston Open could be permanently closed

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The Houston Open looks to be in trouble. While, the PGA Tour won’t release the 2018-2019 schedule until some time around The Players Championship, word regarding schedule changes is already filtering out…and of course speculation abounds.

Unfortunately for the Houston Open, the long-standing Tour stop’s future looks to be in jeopardy on the heels of some recent news. First reported by Houston’s ABC 13 and later by Joel Beall of Golf Digest: The Golf Club of Houston, which has hosted the tournament since 2003, no longer wants to host the competition.

“We received notice this week from the Golf Club of Houston regarding the club’s decision to no longer host a PGA Tour event,” a Houston Golf Association statement said. “The Golf Club of Houston has been a great venue for the Houston Open dating back to 2003 and we look forward to maintaining a great relationship with the club.”

The tournament’s future has looked bleak since 25-year sponsor, Shell, ended its duties in 2017. Additionally, the Golf Club of Houston has been substantially renovated in recent years to provide players conditions similar to what they’ll face the following week at Augusta National.

However, knowing the tournament will move out of the pre-Masters calendar position, clearly didn’t sit well with GCH, and the club is finished playing host.

Thus, any future Houston Open needs a new course and new sponsor, which is, at the very least, a tremendous ask roughly a year out from the potential competition.

RELATED: Detroit could be getting a PGA Tour event

 

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Good? Bad? Hilarious? GolfWRX members discuss hypothetical two-man teams

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In its second year, the Zurich Classic’s team format is a new and curious beast amidst the medal play that dominates the PGA Tour. The two-man team format got GolfWRX member AceCatKY thinking.

He writes

“What would be some of the best/worst/funniest pairings of two PGA golfers for a two-man event? Current and past golfers can be paired together so you could have Old Tom Morris and Patrick Reed if you wanted…I think DJ/DeChambeau would be hilarious for the dichotomy it would present…What do you guys/gals think?”

Oh boy, what a superb hypothetical; imagine the possibilities: good, bad, and ugly! Naturally, GolfWRXers were quick to weigh in.

Bye writes

Sergio and Tiger would be interesting.

Seve and Phil could have been the most entertaining pairing in history.

jonsnow says

Bubba Watson & Steve Elkington

Patrick Reed & Rory McIlroy

Danny Willett & Smylie Kaufman

Cardoustie says

Lumpy and Jesper

Tom Watson and Gary Player

Seve and Azinger

Robert Rock and Ollie Schneiderjans

Frankensteins Monster says

Ian Poulter/Patrick Reed

Todd Hamilton/Danny Willett

Tony Finau/Colt Knost

Robert Rock/Ben Crane

Michelle Wie/Tad Fujikawa

Check out the rest of the replies in the thread, or let us know your hypothetical two-person squads below. 

 

 

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From Master P to Metallica: Check out team walk-up songs for the Zurich Classic

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It’s the list you’ve been dying for since you heard the Zurich Classic of New Orleans would feature golfer walk-up music.

OK, you’re at least mildly interested in what, say, Jon Curran and Keegan Bradley will be walking out to (the answer: “Shipping Up To Boston,” by the Dropkick Murphys, appropriate for a pair of sons of New England).

Here’s the official list, per the PGA Tour (not every team is included). As you can see, it’s a mix of classics, local references, hip-hop, and a surprising dose of metal.

Team                                         Song                                      Artist                                       
William McGirt/Sam Burns Callin’ Baton Rouge Garth Brooks
Kevin Na/Byeong Hun An Make ’em say Uhh Master P
Chris Kirk/J.T. Poston Crazy Train Ozzy Osbourne
Chez Reavie/Lucas Glover For Whom the Bell Tolls Metallica
Martin Piller/Joel Dahmen Lovumba Daddy Yankee
K.J. Choi/Charlie Wi Gangnam Style PSY
Ryan Armour/Johnson Wagner Enter Sandman Metallica
C.T. Pan/Zac Blair Half Time Ying Yang Twins
Tyrone Van Aswegen/Retief Goosen Africa Toto
Tom Hoge/J.J. Henry Right Now Van Halen
Shawn Stefani/John Rollins Thunderstruck AC/DC
Tony Finau/Daniel Summerhays Doo Wa Ditty (Blow That Thing) Zapp & Roger
Keith Mitchell/Stephan Jaeger Pizza Guy Touch Sensitive
Ben Silverman/Matt Atkins Enter Sandman Metallica
Zach Johnson/Jonathan Byrd Thunderstruck AC/DC
Patrick Reed/Patrick Cantlay Eye of the Tiger Survivor
Greg Chalmers/Cameron Percy Down Under Men at Work
Keegan Bradley/Jon Curran Shipping up to Boston Dropkick Murphys
Brendan Steele/Jamie Lovemark California Love Tupac
Charley Hoffman/Nick Watney California Love Tupac
Billy Horschel/Scott Piercy Young Forever Jay Z ft. Mrs. Hudson
Cody Gribble/John Peterson Careless Whisper George Michael
Steve Stricker/Jerry Kelly As Good As I Once Was Toby Keith
Chris Stroud/Brian Stuard Enter Sandman Metallica
Sergio Garcia/Rafa Cabrera Bello The Best Tina Turner
Kevin Tway/Kelly Kraft Gucci Gang Lil Pump
D.A. Points/Kyle Thompson Working for the Weekend Loverboy
Mac Hughes/Corey Conners Big League Tom Cochrane & Red Rider
Justin Thomas/Bud Cauley Circle of Life Carmen Twillie
Shane Lowry/Padraig Harrington Beautiful Day U2
Russell Knox/Martin Laird Flower of Scotland
Gary Woodland/Daniel Berger Forever Drake
Brandon Harkins/Lanto Griffin Started From the Bottom Drake
Kevin Kisner/Scott Brown Slippery Migos
Andrew Landry/Talor Gooch Big Poppa Notorious BIG
Jason Day/Ryan Ruffels Down Under Men at Work
Justin Rose/Henrik Stenson Gold Spandau Ballet
Matt Every/Sam Saunders Running With the Devil Van Halen
Jon Rahm/Wesley Bryan DNA Kendrick Lamar
Emiliano Grillo/Peter Uihlein Mi Gente (Remix) J Balvin, Willy William, Busta K.
Jamie Donaldson/Ross Fisher Sweet Disposition The Temper Trap
Harold Varner III/Robert Garrigus Ebony and Ivory Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder
Alex Cejka/Ben Crane Here I Go Again Whitesnake
Abraham Ancer/Roberto Diaz Mexico Lindo y Querido Vicente Fernandez
Xinjun Zhang/Zecheng Dou Believe in Myself Zero Point Band

See what GolfWRX members think about the song selections in the forums.

 

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