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USGA Distance Report: Jimmy Walker, Lucas Glover sound off



We heard what the USGA had to say about distance in the game on Monday. Most significantly with respect to the pro game, the governing body stated, “any further significant increases in hitting distances at the highest level are undesirable,” while pledging further review.

Largely skeptical responses from the PGA Tour, the PGA of America, and Titleist followed soon thereafter.
Now, some players are keen to do anything but roll back the ball of incredulity, instead, (to mix ball metaphors), Jimmy Walker and Lucas Glover are running with the ball.

Walker, in an Instagram post Tuesday, suggested the USGA’s data doesn’t paint the full picture.
His, which also references Rule 14-1b, reads in part

“Too many variables in an outdoor sport to grasp what is actually happening,” Walker said. “What I do know is the USGA does not have their fingers on the pulse of the game. Taking away a putter that helps many many people enjoy the game is wrong. Rolling back the golf ball 20 percent is another bad idea. Ask the normal golfer how much they would enjoy the game if they flew it 20 percent shorter. I’m asking. Would you enjoy that? Changing golf for the masses because a small few who play it a different level is wrong. The greats and USGA have it wrong.”

Walker was joined by a fellow major winner, Lucas Glover, in voicing his disapproval. Glover tweeted

The plot thickens, and the debate continues. Expect to hear plenty more responses to the USGA’s report with player interviews at the Valspar Championship beginning today.

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  1. John

    Mar 9, 2018 at 12:00 pm

    Jimmy Walker hit the nail on the head. I agree completely & have stated the same thing myself. You can’t punish 99% of the golfers because a small minority hit the long ball.

    • bill

      Mar 11, 2018 at 4:40 am

      jIMMY missed the point. USGA is proposing to regulate the ball used by tours, not the balls used by everyday players. Older courses are running out of real estate to lengthen courses to accommodate driving distances by tour level club head speeds

  2. blake

    Mar 9, 2018 at 9:25 am

    i will play golf even less if they do this. F the usga.

    • Glenn D

      Mar 10, 2018 at 10:47 pm

      This shows how ignorant some people can be. I don’t think the everyday playerscourses are being lengthened to accommodate them. It’s mainly for the pros. The answer isn’t 8,000 yd courses….. cost to maintain and slower play will be the result.

  3. GolfGui

    Mar 7, 2018 at 11:08 pm

    Yes, the way these guys train and the level of athlete has changed through the years. It is also true there’s Trackman and 3D analysis. These things can’t be stopped. It’s not a legit argument to change anything. What can be changed, probably tomorrow if need be, is the ball. Change the compression, the aerodynamics and the ball doesn’t fly as far. Many Tour guys against rollback try to make an argument that the amateur would be hurt most by this, but no one is calling for a throttled back ball for amateurs, just Tour guys, so that’s not a good argument. Nor is it a good argument to say the USGA allowed it in the first place, so they don’t have a right to correct their mistakes (cough cough Lucas Glover). Also, the idea of tightening fairways goes against the very nature of the game, which is strategy and angles. I know Jimmy Walker says he hits his 8i the same distance he did when he was 24… Fine, the problem is that 8i you’re hitting is into a Par 5, which when you were 24, that same hole you probably were hitting a 5i or more. The way I understand the science behind the modern ball, the faster one swings, the more one gains from the longer clubs… And by a lot. But when players get to the shorter irons / Wedges the modern ball doesn’t react much differently than balls from 10/15 yrs ago. To me that completely sounds like a compression / aerodynamic issue in regards to the ball. Throttle the ball back 10% (10% off an average Tour Drive) for Tour guys and be done with it. They still will be the best players in the world and courses all over the planet will remain relevant without needing major reconstruction.

    • DougQ

      Mar 8, 2018 at 11:18 am

      I get what your saying but it’s not the ball. Each ball it hit with the iron byron and can’t go further then the distance cap of 02′. Also guys could hit the ball further but going to less spin, but the mid 2500 is sweet spot for distance and accuracy which they figure out long ago. Use 1000 spin and your accuracy is like long drivers.
      So what do you do get a ball that goes less and less distance every few years to make up for the increases athleticism. Guys will keep getting taller and fitter as it’s an advantage.
      Making a shorter hitting ball will only absolute the short hitters like Kuchar type.

      At the end of the day golf is a game and which the least strokes wins, who cares the par of the distance, it’s just ideology stuff. It’s still easier to make a par on a 525 yard par 4 then to birdie the same hole as a 530 yard par 5.

      • Daniel

        Mar 11, 2018 at 5:10 am

        Its easier to make 4 on a 525 yard hole than to make 4 on a 530 yard hole… ummm doubt 5 yards makes that big of a distance.. kind of a stupid comment

  4. TheOtherPhilM

    Mar 7, 2018 at 4:56 pm

    The lack of logic in the responses to a proposed ball wind back from the pga and pros like Walker/ Glover is staggering. Plenty of reports show that amateurs are not reaping the benefits of new equipment and balls like the pros are. It will not make much difference to amateurs if the ball is wound back. What is bad for golf is the increasing gap between pros and amateurs and the costs of increasing ball distances. Talk of bigger stronger players as the cause of distance gains rather than equipment is also nonsense, the fact that Champions tour players are hitting 20% further in their sixties compared to their 30s tells the real story no one should hit further when they are 30 years older in the normal course of events.

    • UNMgolf

      Mar 7, 2018 at 7:15 pm

      you’re probably old. old people think this way.

    • BD57

      Mar 7, 2018 at 7:39 pm

      What’s “nonsense” is the “get off my lawn” response of people such as yourself.

      From what I’ve heard, when comparing “apples to apples” – that would be driving distances in 2016 vs. 2017 at events contested on the SAME COURSE BOTH YEARS – and there’s practically no difference whatsoever.

      Apparently, the driving distances at Augusta in 2017 were little different than 2016 as well, but the distances at the US Open, British Open & PGA were longer in 2017 than 2016, with the US Open being significantly so, and accounting for the lion’s share of the “huge jump.”

      The typical tour pro in the 70’s wasn’t the size of Dustin Johnson, Justin Rose, Rory McIlroy, etc., they certainly didn’t have the benefit of multi-material clubheads, graphite shafts and so on, and they didn’t train the way the guys train now. The notion that “It’s just the ball” – THAT is a “lack of logic.”

      As is the idea that somehow, manufacturing a ball which steals distance from the most expert players will leave the rest of us alone, that it “won’t make much difference.” Steal 20% of the total distance . . . . you turn a good amateur’s 250 yard drive into a 200 yard “bomb,” his 6,500 yard course into a 5,200 yard “monster.” When the typical am takes a mighty swipe and can’t hit the ball out of his shadow – golf is going to become a far less attractive game for a lot of people than it is now.

      This notion that we have to make the game less enjoyable for MILLIONS because, somehow, we’re having a problem maintaining “Old Man Par” as a standard for he best players in the world on the 100 golf courses in the world where they play . . . . how shortsighted.

      How foolish.

  5. DeezNutz

    Mar 7, 2018 at 2:46 pm

    Just grow the rough out.
    Pebble is a short course.
    guys light it up in Pro-Am because it set up for Bill Murray.
    During the US Opens there you can win with Par.

  6. MVB

    Mar 7, 2018 at 2:42 pm

    USGA put a distance cap on balls and equipment in 2002 or 03.
    There is a sport science show on ESPN where Rory hit a persimmon with an old balata and he loses like 15 yards.

    Its just old dudes that don’t understand science and body physics.
    Now golfers are athletes, taller bigger and train specifically for golf.

    I think the distance cap on equipment was good, it can’t increase.

    What they gonna say when some Anthony Davis looking guy makes it to the PGA.
    You’re too tall create too much leverage we’re gonna give you a different ball?

  7. dat

    Mar 7, 2018 at 1:27 pm

    Mark Crossfield had a great video the other day on this. The two data collection periods were not even close to one another for this YOY comparison. One was primarily on wet, shorter, narrower course. The other was on firm, long and more open courses. Gee, I wonder why there was a 17 yard increase? Must be the golf ball!

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Check out the betting markets for the potential Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson “The Match” Part 2



“The Match” Part 2 may have only just been teased by Phil Mickelson this week on his social media account, but that hasn’t stopped bookmakers from pricing up some exciting betting markets for the potential showdown. have chalked up Woods as favorite to exact revenge on Lefty, but the company have also priced up markets on the total curse words used between the two, the number of Tiger twirls we will potentially see, and much more.

Here’s a full list of the betting markets have created ahead of the potential Woods-Mickelson “The Match” Part 2:

How many holes will be conceded?

  • Under 2½ holes 4/11
  • Over 2½ holes 2/1

Match Winner

  • Tiger Woods 20/33
  • Phil Mickelson 5/4

Number of 3-putts recorded by Tiger and Phil

  • Under ½ 3-putts 5/12
  • Over ½ 3-putts 33/20

Which pairing will win Tiger vs Phil II?

  • Tiger Woods / Peyton Manning 5/9
  • Tiger Woods / Tom Brady 2/3
  • Phil Mickelson / Peyton Manning 11/10
  • Phil Mickelson / Tom Brady 7/5

Which player will make the most birdies?

  • Tiger Woods 10/13
  • Phil Mickelson 10/11

Will a Play Off be needed to decide the winner?

  • No 1/3
  • Yes 5/2

Will Hole No. 18 be played?

  • Yes 10/13
  • No 10/11

Will there be a Hole In One?

  • No 2/55
  • Yes 17/2

Will Tiger Woods wear a red shirt?

  • Yes 2/5
  • No 17/10
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The 6 best #GolfWRX photos on Instagram today (4.1.20)



In this segment, we’ll be taking a look at some of the best #GolfWRX tagged photos on Instagram. In case you aren’t already, there’s a whole load of action going on at our page, so follow us: @golfwrx

Let’s get to it then, here are six of the best #GolfWRX photos from the past 24 hours.

Beautiful custom work on these Mizuno MP64’s from The Golf Garage.

‘Sweet Swingin’ Strawberry’ headcovers added to Bettinardi’s Thursday release!

One of the most underrated irons of all time says our Ryan Barath.

‘Lightly Seasoned’

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Fancy looking long neck lefty flat-stick from SGC Putters.

Colorful Squareback Scotty.

Get hashtagging your golf posts #GolfWRX for your chance to feature in our best of Instagram posts in the future!

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14 players disqualified from mini-tour event for playing from the wrong tees




Despite the Coronavirus pandemic, there is still golf being played in some regions of the US in mini-tour events, and Tuesday during an event on the Outlaw Tour saw a significant rules controversy.

Per Ryan French (Twitter’s Monday Q Info), 14 players during round one of the Outlaw Tour’s Verrado Founders Championship were DQ’d from the event after playing from the wrong set of tees on one hole.

Despite the 14-men playing from a distance longer than they should have, there is no dispensation from the rule despite it being clear there was no intent to gain an advantage on their competitors.

Following the opening round, tournament director Jesse Burghart released a statement on Facebook where he defiantly stuck by his decision to disqualify the 14 players.

“I stand by my decision to uphold the integrity of the game and the Rules of Golf…Penalty for breach of rules is disqualification. It’s very black and white and one of the most important rules to follow.

I’ve heard all the name calling and peanut gallery remarks. At the end of the day we are supposed to be professional golfers. Ultimately it’s your decision to be one or not.

Sheriff Out”


One of the players DQ’d because of the error was James Feutz who backed the Tour’s decision on his social media, but explained how he feels some compensation should be given “considering how many people made the same mistake and the current world situation.”

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