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GolfWRX members have plenty to say about Justin Thomas’ comments on ‘unacceptable’ fan behavior

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At last week’s Genesis Open, after two days of golf grouped with Tiger Woods and Rory McIlroy, Justin Thomas had seen all the boorish fan behavior he could take, and he decided to say something about it.

And GolfWRX members had a strong response to Thomas’ reponse, as it were. First, here’s what JT had to say last week.

“Yeah, it was pretty wild this first couple days. It was all right for a little bit today, but there at the end it got a little out of hand…I guess it’s a part of it now, unfortunately. I wish it wasn’t. I wish people didn’t think it was so amusing to yell and all that stuff while we’re trying to hit shots and play.”

“I don’t know – I guess they just think it’s funny,” Thomas said. “It might be funny to them, and obviously people think of it differently and I could just be overreacting. But when people are now starting to time it wrong and get in people’s swings, is just completely unacceptable really. We’re out here playing for a lot of money, a lot of points, and a lot of things can happen. And you would just hate to have, hate to see in the future something happen down the line because of something like that.”

You can almost hear the “he’s absolutely right” and “spoiled pro athlete” contingents readying their arms!

Cool Percussion is in the second squadron, and he started a thread with this venomous post.

“Is Justin Thomas justified in his complaints? On one hand, I can see how large galleries can be a distraction to golfers. (I know if I had to play in front of one it would cost me more than “a half shot per round”)

“On the other hand: POOR BABY! Aww poor little Justin is playing in front of a big-boy gallery now. Boo Hoo. Waaaaahhhhh!!! It must be so hard for you to be paired with Tiger and have to deal with the kinds of galleries that he has had to deal with FOR VIRTUALLY HIS ENTIRE CAREER! Grow-up you spoiled, whiny brat.”

“Here’s an idea, Justin: continue to play like you did this week—keep yourself off the top page of the leaderboard—and then no one will want to come see you and you won’t have to deal with large crowds anymore.”

Now, it has to be said, there’s a difference between large crowds, the Tiger Woods crowd, and idiots who yell during a golfer’s backswing. Thomas seemed mostly upset about the latter. Cool Percussion seems to be conflating all three.

Alikane responds with

“I think he has a legitimate complaint. None of the players like distractions when they are hitting shots. Distractions can alter outcomes of tournaments.”

blink 3665 defends JT in this hot take

“I don’t have a problem with his complaint. He didn’t say that a large gallery was the source of his frustration. It was the yelling and pictures while swinging. His quote seems to have a friendly, but annoyed, demeanor. If anything I think he would be in the right to voice more frustration than he did.

“Yes, the large galleries are something that groupings with TW will have to deal with, but that doesn’t give them the right to affect the games of the players by distracting during a swing.

“So why should anyone have to put up with that? Why does his stance against “loud, annoying, drunk, inconsiderate dbs” mean he is a “spoiled whiney brat”? I think that makes him normal.”

Kjboisen doesn’t agree with the percussionist

“Dislike your perspective that JT needs to get used to those larger galleries. I don’t think that is the problem. it’s the drunken morons who yell on backswings and on important putts. If there is going to be noise, make it a constant noise. If there is supposed to be relative silence, and I hear someone yell some B.S on my backstroke for an important putt, it would bother me too.”

“I don’t think the crowds bother anyone unless someone on Tour lives under a damn rock and has never played with a group of friends who will do anything to keep a match alive… conditioned to the distracts. But the other BS is unnecessary and more precaution needs to be taken in my opinion. Active crowd patrol and searching for over-rowdy individuals to remove from the situation before it becomes a problem.”

Dciccoritti points out a likely accelerant

“Remove the booze in all sporting events. If you can’t enjoy a sporting event without getting drunk and stupid, you shouldn’t be there in the first place.”

Golfandfishing draws an interesting connection

“Every week there are posts on here calling out the stupidity of people yelling scrambled eggs bababooey get in the hole woohoo and 5 pages of posts then agree it is stupid. Justin Thomas says the same thing and he’s a spoiled brat?”

The thread is currently six pages long and more than 170 replies deep. In other words, the membership has plenty to say on the topic.

What do you think? Check out the rest of the replies and join the discussion.

 

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  1. Paul

    Feb 27, 2018 at 12:14 pm

    This is a systemic sign of where society has gotten to. Many young people have no respect for anyone, including themselves. Add alcohol and the stupid in many of them comes flowing out. You don’t see 50 yr olds yelling and heckling like the younger crowd does. Golf is not the sport for this kind of behavior. Go to a football game, drink and yell your heads off and no one will care. Don’t let these few ruin golf with this obnoxious behavior.

  2. Frank the headcover

    Feb 27, 2018 at 7:52 am

    Having a guy thrown out for rooting for a ball to get in the bunker is absurd..I have had opponents root for my ball to go bad places,,probably fans too!!..might as well ban speakers in golf carts and no tattoos or beer.
    If the guy had yelled at my ball I would have laughed!!

    As long as nobody’s swinging and its not disrespectful, let it fly!!

  3. sushiBC

    Feb 26, 2018 at 11:00 pm

    i really don’t understand……. most people on these forums complain about the idiocy of fans’ behaviour (like the ones that yell out something unique and stupid right as ball is hit) but then people attack JT when he complains about the same stuff they complain about.

    it’s really bizarre.

  4. JP

    Feb 26, 2018 at 4:36 pm

    People do anything for a social media likes or to be social media famous…Bar Stool Sports seems to encourage this type of behavior. Just check out some of their instagram posts on foreplaypod. Some of it’s cool and can help grow the game, some of it is drunken morons making fools of themselves…

  5. Sven Olsen

    Feb 26, 2018 at 2:18 pm

    Unfortunately, the misbehavior of some golf “fans” is escalating. We experienced it during the past two Ryder Cups, and sadly, it is, admittedly a few, American fans, who seem to have no idea how to behave on a golf course.
    It is no tennis or hockey match, “dudes”! There is a certain code of conduct in golf – if you cannot accept that, stick to watching golf on TV, and stop irritating both players and other spectators.

  6. M-Herd4

    Feb 26, 2018 at 11:39 am

    He needs to start paying more attention to his own behavior. Intentionally breaking bunker cameras at the Open. Dropping the F-Bomb on national TV then acting like he had no idea there were cameras and mic’s around. He’s the one called Professional right…

    • Big Papa is in the House

      Feb 27, 2018 at 10:19 am

      And you act like either of those things really matter.

  7. Jamie

    Feb 26, 2018 at 2:43 am

    Unfortunately now golf tournaments are full of idiots, the game now is about stadium courses and booze, morons shouting get in the hole on a par 5 tee shot, or the best one, mash potatoes, yes, mash potatoes, what is that supposed to mean !!!!!
    when you watch now, just look into the stands, all you see is so called fans getting drunk
    and having a party, there not watching golf, or die hard golf fans, its no different at most big sporting events worldwide, its the culture now.
    Any pro, not only justin thomas, has a right to be pissed, its a gentlemans game, always has, always will,its not baseball, soccer, nfl, or boxing like it or not, there is no place for it, because you pay to go in the gate, does not give you the right to be a idiot !!
    Get rid of the idiot stadium holes, boos and insults because you miss a par 3 green should be at the fayre, not on a golf course,these players are making career decisions at times, life changing amounts of money, we may say so what, but if we were good enough not one of us wouldnt want to swap places with any of the pros earning a great living playing a game they love, but in the respect we do not have to act like spoilt kids in the play ground.
    Simple, ban booze, cell phones on silent, then see what happens.

  8. Speedy

    Feb 25, 2018 at 12:33 pm

    America worsened when the Russians helped win the Presidency for Trump.

    • JB

      Feb 25, 2018 at 2:18 pm

      Perhaps, but it can also be argued that the Russians saved the World from WWIII had Hillary been elected President. Then Secretary of State Hillary interfered in a Russian election and the anti-Putin Russians rioted in the streets because she encouraged them to riot… and that’s a fact.
      http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/09/world/europe/putin-accuses-clinton-of-instigating-russian-protests.html
      Putin feared POTUS Hillary would have further interfered with the Russian government and that would have led to military confrontations leading to WWIII. So Putin saved the World by supporting businessman Trump who is willing to “make a deal” with the devil. God bless Putin.

    • David

      Feb 25, 2018 at 3:57 pm

      Not relevant to the article. You’re a childish idiot and trying to spread that proven lie on a golf site shows how pathetic you are.

    • Dave

      Feb 26, 2018 at 4:42 pm

      Actually Hillary did more to make that happen than the Russian could have ever accomplished.

  9. JR

    Feb 25, 2018 at 1:35 am

    Get a set of molded silicone deep ear plugs, Justin, and that will cut the volume on the audience. You will still be able to hear your caddie close up. Problemo solved … 😎

  10. SV

    Feb 24, 2018 at 2:48 pm

    Justin Thomas is right about the crowds. Another example of the coarsening of America that has taken place over the last 50 years or so and accelerated in the last 25. Also, this is the “growth” Tiger Woods brought to the game. Unfortunately he did not inspire people to play. He brought out more people to watch, but it was the football hooligan crowd, not people interested in a sport.

  11. Stephen Finley

    Feb 24, 2018 at 1:26 am

    In its quest for endlessly wider markets and more money, the PGA Tour has bought this kind of thing for itself. Golf as it’s played on tour is sometimes barely recognizable as the game it was supposed to be with the effect on character it was always supposed to have. At this point it’s become largely just another pro sport, complete with sex scandals (not many, but still), profanity on camera regardless of kids watching, social-media skirmishes, smack-talking the crowd, you name it. So of course crowds are going to be right in line with that picture. After all, they bought their ticket and their beers, and they’re part of the show, as far as they’re concerned. Civility and adult behavior and speech is for suckers and “PC” types.

    This is not good for the game. It’s great for bank accounts, but not for the game. I wonder if — and desperately hope that — there are still corners of the world where parents raise their kids on a golf course and teach them what the game is really about, how the truest version of it affects your character, how it demands absolute self-honesty, the primacy of consideration and courtesy for other players, the right perspective and behavior with regard to winning and losing, civility and self-control. I really want to believe this.

    No, the game was not literally perfect before this generation of players. There was always the odd incident, whether from players or fans (the crowd’s reaction to Nicklaus at the ’61 U.S. Open comes immediately to mind). But those incidents _were_ rare, and there was no winking at them. There was a consensus that they were wrong.

    But now, apologists for people like Woods try to convince us that this is all because he and other pros today are “just so competitive” compared to the old guard. I don’t know that there’s anything more stupid or more hilarious ever said in the game. When we’re all milling around in the hereafter, you can go talk to Ben Hogan and Jack Nicklaus (and Snead, Nelson, Mangrum, Watson, Trevino, Norman, Irwin, Floyd, whoever) and tell them how they were so behind the curve in competitiveness. I mean, _really_. Just knock it off.

    As to Thomas specifically, it’s too bad about the crowds, but I guarantee you I can find video of him participating in the whole tour-circus thing at least a little from time to time. So I don’t know. You benefit from it, you encourage it at times, I guess you have to take it without a lot of complaining when you get the downside. But regardless, fans at the site ought to act like adults.

  12. PJS

    Feb 23, 2018 at 4:06 pm

    They should have a sign when you walk in. “Idiots, on your i phone, switch that thing on the side so the red shows.” Bang, completely silent photos…

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Adam “Pacman” Jones talks handicap, lowest score, shows off new clubs

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The trick-shot artist, golfing dynamo, and general internet phenomenon that is Matty sat down for a quick nine questions with veteran NFL cornerback Adam “Pacman” Jones, who plays to a 14 handicap.

Check out their conversation below.

Matty also took a peek at the fresh set of clubs in Jones’ bag. It looks like Matty, who is affiliated with Bridgestone Golf, has made sure the veteran cornerback has the company’s latest wares, including custom Tour B X-CB irons and custom KBS Tour shafts.

Hopefully, Matty will follow up with an Adam Jones WOTW (What’s on the Wrist). Holy Rolly, Pacman!

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Tweets of the Week: Best golf posts from Twitter over the last week

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Louis Oosthuizen cried tears of joy after winning the South African Open, while Patton Kizzire and Brian Harman triumphed at the QBE shootout. But those weren’t the only talking points over the last week in the golfing world. Here’s a look at some things you may have missed, and some of the quirkier moments from the world of golf dished out in the Twittersphere.

Uncanny Bubba Impression

He’s nailed impressions of Dustin Johnson and Keegan Bradley in the past, and now Jack Bartlett turned his talents to the mercurial Bubba Watson. The result is both hysterical and scarily impressive.

“Mud Ball!!”

Because the original “mud ball” moment is just as hilarious.

The Turf Chopper

A look into the future of golf on the fairways?

DeChambeau’s New Bag

Bryson showed off his slick new golf bag while in action last week. What do we think GolfWRXers?

Please Replace Divots

A squirrel at the QBE Shootout this week showing more etiquette on the course than some golfers do.

Open Championship Mania

An 11-year old’s mother showed just how much her boy enjoyed his experience at this year’s Open Championship…

…leading to The R&A and Open Championship combining to provide the kid with an experience that he will never forget.

 

 

 

 

 

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Exploring Ireland: Where to golf, drink and stay on the Emerald Isle. Pt. 2. Old Tom Morris Links, Donegal

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In these series of articles, I will be taking you around the Emerald Isle providing you with great golf courses to visit in some of the loveliest spots in Ireland. I’ll also be highlighting the best and most authentic Irish bars in these spots, as well as places to stay, eat and how to get there. Whether you’re taking a golfing holiday to Ireland in 2019 or are interested in doing so sometime in the future, I’ll make sure to let you in on the best places to spend your time.

In Part One of our Exploring Ireland series, we focused on County Wicklow and showcased Woodbrook Golf Club. Now it’s time for Part Two, and we’re taking a trip to the far northwest corner of the island, and into County Donegal.

While it may not be the most accessible destination, Donegal is an absolute must for anyone traveling to Ireland. Voted number one on The National Geographic Traveler’s ‘cool list’ for 2017, Donegal is like no place you’ve ever seen. Full of breathtaking beaches, incredible walking trails, cosy pubs and of course, excellent golf courses, you’re guaranteed to have a great time here.

Old Tom Morris Links, Donegal

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My pick for the top golf course to visit in the county is the Old Tom Morris Links, situated within the Rosapenna Hotel and Golf Resort.

In 1891, while a guest of Lord Leitrim, Old Tom Morris of St. Andrews decided to visit Donegal, and in typical Tom Morris fashion, he believed that it was the ideal location to build a championship course. What Morris created was a course with wide rolling fairways and magnificent greens that have stood the test of time.

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The course was renovated twice before a new Strand Nine opened in 2009 which now plays as the front nine of the Old Tom Morris Links. The addition gives the course a wonderful mix of a traditional and modern links feel.

The challenging course plays over 6,900 yards from the back tees, and only offers up the relief of three par-fives. The challenge can also become even more daunting should the wind blow, and being situated along “The Wild Atlantic Way,” you should expect nothing less.

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While you will no doubt enjoy the stern test and the natural feel of the golf course, visitors will have even more to look forward to should they take the trip here. The course runs along Tramore beach overlooking Sheephaven Bay and offers up sensational views no matter what hole you are on during your round.

The rates to play 18 holes at the Old Tom Morris Links begin at $40 in winter, and $60 during the summer months.

Food & Drink – The Olde Glen Bar, Carrigart

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A 10-minute drive from the course will take you to The Olde Glen Bar a few minutes from Carrigart, which Ulster’s very own Hollywood star and golf fan Jamie Dornan (The Fall, 50 Shades of Grey) called the “best bar in the world.”

The bar first opened in 1768, making it one of the oldest bars in Donegal. The Olde Glen Bar has kept its very traditional feel, and when you get there, you will feel like you’ve been transported back in time. Wooden floors, big open-lit fires, low ceilings and door frames add to the charm of this little bar where there is always something going on.

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There is live traditional music playing in the bar every weekend, and along with the music, The Olde Glen Bar boasts an excellent craft beer, whiskey and gin selection. The bar prides itself on its Kinnegar beer, brewed just up the road, and it’s well worth a try if Guinness isn’t your thing.

The bar also features a highly acclaimed restaurant, offering up dishes such as seatrout, venison, supreme of chicken and plenty of other delights.

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Where To Stay

The obvious choice is the Rosapenna Hotel and Golf Resort itself. This luxury establishment will cater to all your needs and is the ideal place to stay when in the area if you have the money to splash out. A classic double room will set you back around $200 a night, or you can go for the stay and play option which provides you with two nights bed, and breakfast along with a round of golf at both the Old Tom Morris and the Sandy Hills Links for around $300 per person.

If you’re looking for somewhere less expensive or more traditional, then there are plenty of cottages in the area that will add even more character to your adventure. Here’s what you can expect should you wish to stay in an Irish cottage in the area, and it will give you a feel for true Irish life out on the Atlantic Ocean.

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Donegal has lots to offer should you manage to pull yourself away from the course or the bar. Fishing, walking trails, surfing and scuba diving are all favorite activities to do while visiting Donegal. One must visit, however, is Glenveagh National Park, which is a nature reserve with beautiful scenery of mountains, lakes and woodlands. The highlight of the park though has to be Glenveagh Castle, built in 1870.

How To Get There

The lack of quality public transport in the area makes it a little trickier than other spots to get to, but if you’re driving, then there’s no issue at all. The Old Tom Morris Links is a 3 hrs 30mins drive from Dublin City Centre, 4hrs 10mins from Galway City Centre, and 1hr 15mins from Derry City Centre. If you happen to be flying into Donegal Airport, then it will take you around an hour to get to the area.

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