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GolfWRX members have plenty to say about Justin Thomas’ comments on ‘unacceptable’ fan behavior



At last week’s Genesis Open, after two days of golf grouped with Tiger Woods and Rory McIlroy, Justin Thomas had seen all the boorish fan behavior he could take, and he decided to say something about it.

And GolfWRX members had a strong response to Thomas’ reponse, as it were. First, here’s what JT had to say last week.

“Yeah, it was pretty wild this first couple days. It was all right for a little bit today, but there at the end it got a little out of hand…I guess it’s a part of it now, unfortunately. I wish it wasn’t. I wish people didn’t think it was so amusing to yell and all that stuff while we’re trying to hit shots and play.”

“I don’t know – I guess they just think it’s funny,” Thomas said. “It might be funny to them, and obviously people think of it differently and I could just be overreacting. But when people are now starting to time it wrong and get in people’s swings, is just completely unacceptable really. We’re out here playing for a lot of money, a lot of points, and a lot of things can happen. And you would just hate to have, hate to see in the future something happen down the line because of something like that.”

You can almost hear the “he’s absolutely right” and “spoiled pro athlete” contingents readying their arms!

Cool Percussion is in the second squadron, and he started a thread with this venomous post.

“Is Justin Thomas justified in his complaints? On one hand, I can see how large galleries can be a distraction to golfers. (I know if I had to play in front of one it would cost me more than “a half shot per round”)

“On the other hand: POOR BABY! Aww poor little Justin is playing in front of a big-boy gallery now. Boo Hoo. Waaaaahhhhh!!! It must be so hard for you to be paired with Tiger and have to deal with the kinds of galleries that he has had to deal with FOR VIRTUALLY HIS ENTIRE CAREER! Grow-up you spoiled, whiny brat.”

“Here’s an idea, Justin: continue to play like you did this week—keep yourself off the top page of the leaderboard—and then no one will want to come see you and you won’t have to deal with large crowds anymore.”

Now, it has to be said, there’s a difference between large crowds, the Tiger Woods crowd, and idiots who yell during a golfer’s backswing. Thomas seemed mostly upset about the latter. Cool Percussion seems to be conflating all three.

Alikane responds with

“I think he has a legitimate complaint. None of the players like distractions when they are hitting shots. Distractions can alter outcomes of tournaments.”

blink 3665 defends JT in this hot take

“I don’t have a problem with his complaint. He didn’t say that a large gallery was the source of his frustration. It was the yelling and pictures while swinging. His quote seems to have a friendly, but annoyed, demeanor. If anything I think he would be in the right to voice more frustration than he did.

“Yes, the large galleries are something that groupings with TW will have to deal with, but that doesn’t give them the right to affect the games of the players by distracting during a swing.

“So why should anyone have to put up with that? Why does his stance against “loud, annoying, drunk, inconsiderate dbs” mean he is a “spoiled whiney brat”? I think that makes him normal.”

Kjboisen doesn’t agree with the percussionist

“Dislike your perspective that JT needs to get used to those larger galleries. I don’t think that is the problem. it’s the drunken morons who yell on backswings and on important putts. If there is going to be noise, make it a constant noise. If there is supposed to be relative silence, and I hear someone yell some B.S on my backstroke for an important putt, it would bother me too.”

“I don’t think the crowds bother anyone unless someone on Tour lives under a damn rock and has never played with a group of friends who will do anything to keep a match alive… conditioned to the distracts. But the other BS is unnecessary and more precaution needs to be taken in my opinion. Active crowd patrol and searching for over-rowdy individuals to remove from the situation before it becomes a problem.”

Dciccoritti points out a likely accelerant

“Remove the booze in all sporting events. If you can’t enjoy a sporting event without getting drunk and stupid, you shouldn’t be there in the first place.”

Golfandfishing draws an interesting connection

“Every week there are posts on here calling out the stupidity of people yelling scrambled eggs bababooey get in the hole woohoo and 5 pages of posts then agree it is stupid. Justin Thomas says the same thing and he’s a spoiled brat?”

The thread is currently six pages long and more than 170 replies deep. In other words, the membership has plenty to say on the topic.

What do you think? Check out the rest of the replies and join the discussion.


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  1. Paul

    Feb 27, 2018 at 12:14 pm

    This is a systemic sign of where society has gotten to. Many young people have no respect for anyone, including themselves. Add alcohol and the stupid in many of them comes flowing out. You don’t see 50 yr olds yelling and heckling like the younger crowd does. Golf is not the sport for this kind of behavior. Go to a football game, drink and yell your heads off and no one will care. Don’t let these few ruin golf with this obnoxious behavior.

  2. Frank the headcover

    Feb 27, 2018 at 7:52 am

    Having a guy thrown out for rooting for a ball to get in the bunker is absurd..I have had opponents root for my ball to go bad places,,probably fans too!!..might as well ban speakers in golf carts and no tattoos or beer.
    If the guy had yelled at my ball I would have laughed!!

    As long as nobody’s swinging and its not disrespectful, let it fly!!

  3. sushiBC

    Feb 26, 2018 at 11:00 pm

    i really don’t understand……. most people on these forums complain about the idiocy of fans’ behaviour (like the ones that yell out something unique and stupid right as ball is hit) but then people attack JT when he complains about the same stuff they complain about.

    it’s really bizarre.

  4. JP

    Feb 26, 2018 at 4:36 pm

    People do anything for a social media likes or to be social media famous…Bar Stool Sports seems to encourage this type of behavior. Just check out some of their instagram posts on foreplaypod. Some of it’s cool and can help grow the game, some of it is drunken morons making fools of themselves…

  5. Sven Olsen

    Feb 26, 2018 at 2:18 pm

    Unfortunately, the misbehavior of some golf “fans” is escalating. We experienced it during the past two Ryder Cups, and sadly, it is, admittedly a few, American fans, who seem to have no idea how to behave on a golf course.
    It is no tennis or hockey match, “dudes”! There is a certain code of conduct in golf – if you cannot accept that, stick to watching golf on TV, and stop irritating both players and other spectators.

  6. M-Herd4

    Feb 26, 2018 at 11:39 am

    He needs to start paying more attention to his own behavior. Intentionally breaking bunker cameras at the Open. Dropping the F-Bomb on national TV then acting like he had no idea there were cameras and mic’s around. He’s the one called Professional right…

    • Big Papa is in the House

      Feb 27, 2018 at 10:19 am

      And you act like either of those things really matter.

  7. Jamie

    Feb 26, 2018 at 2:43 am

    Unfortunately now golf tournaments are full of idiots, the game now is about stadium courses and booze, morons shouting get in the hole on a par 5 tee shot, or the best one, mash potatoes, yes, mash potatoes, what is that supposed to mean !!!!!
    when you watch now, just look into the stands, all you see is so called fans getting drunk
    and having a party, there not watching golf, or die hard golf fans, its no different at most big sporting events worldwide, its the culture now.
    Any pro, not only justin thomas, has a right to be pissed, its a gentlemans game, always has, always will,its not baseball, soccer, nfl, or boxing like it or not, there is no place for it, because you pay to go in the gate, does not give you the right to be a idiot !!
    Get rid of the idiot stadium holes, boos and insults because you miss a par 3 green should be at the fayre, not on a golf course,these players are making career decisions at times, life changing amounts of money, we may say so what, but if we were good enough not one of us wouldnt want to swap places with any of the pros earning a great living playing a game they love, but in the respect we do not have to act like spoilt kids in the play ground.
    Simple, ban booze, cell phones on silent, then see what happens.

  8. Speedy

    Feb 25, 2018 at 12:33 pm

    America worsened when the Russians helped win the Presidency for Trump.

    • JB

      Feb 25, 2018 at 2:18 pm

      Perhaps, but it can also be argued that the Russians saved the World from WWIII had Hillary been elected President. Then Secretary of State Hillary interfered in a Russian election and the anti-Putin Russians rioted in the streets because she encouraged them to riot… and that’s a fact.
      Putin feared POTUS Hillary would have further interfered with the Russian government and that would have led to military confrontations leading to WWIII. So Putin saved the World by supporting businessman Trump who is willing to “make a deal” with the devil. God bless Putin.

    • David

      Feb 25, 2018 at 3:57 pm

      Not relevant to the article. You’re a childish idiot and trying to spread that proven lie on a golf site shows how pathetic you are.

    • Dave

      Feb 26, 2018 at 4:42 pm

      Actually Hillary did more to make that happen than the Russian could have ever accomplished.

  9. JR

    Feb 25, 2018 at 1:35 am

    Get a set of molded silicone deep ear plugs, Justin, and that will cut the volume on the audience. You will still be able to hear your caddie close up. Problemo solved … 😎

  10. SV

    Feb 24, 2018 at 2:48 pm

    Justin Thomas is right about the crowds. Another example of the coarsening of America that has taken place over the last 50 years or so and accelerated in the last 25. Also, this is the “growth” Tiger Woods brought to the game. Unfortunately he did not inspire people to play. He brought out more people to watch, but it was the football hooligan crowd, not people interested in a sport.

  11. Stephen Finley

    Feb 24, 2018 at 1:26 am

    In its quest for endlessly wider markets and more money, the PGA Tour has bought this kind of thing for itself. Golf as it’s played on tour is sometimes barely recognizable as the game it was supposed to be with the effect on character it was always supposed to have. At this point it’s become largely just another pro sport, complete with sex scandals (not many, but still), profanity on camera regardless of kids watching, social-media skirmishes, smack-talking the crowd, you name it. So of course crowds are going to be right in line with that picture. After all, they bought their ticket and their beers, and they’re part of the show, as far as they’re concerned. Civility and adult behavior and speech is for suckers and “PC” types.

    This is not good for the game. It’s great for bank accounts, but not for the game. I wonder if — and desperately hope that — there are still corners of the world where parents raise their kids on a golf course and teach them what the game is really about, how the truest version of it affects your character, how it demands absolute self-honesty, the primacy of consideration and courtesy for other players, the right perspective and behavior with regard to winning and losing, civility and self-control. I really want to believe this.

    No, the game was not literally perfect before this generation of players. There was always the odd incident, whether from players or fans (the crowd’s reaction to Nicklaus at the ’61 U.S. Open comes immediately to mind). But those incidents _were_ rare, and there was no winking at them. There was a consensus that they were wrong.

    But now, apologists for people like Woods try to convince us that this is all because he and other pros today are “just so competitive” compared to the old guard. I don’t know that there’s anything more stupid or more hilarious ever said in the game. When we’re all milling around in the hereafter, you can go talk to Ben Hogan and Jack Nicklaus (and Snead, Nelson, Mangrum, Watson, Trevino, Norman, Irwin, Floyd, whoever) and tell them how they were so behind the curve in competitiveness. I mean, _really_. Just knock it off.

    As to Thomas specifically, it’s too bad about the crowds, but I guarantee you I can find video of him participating in the whole tour-circus thing at least a little from time to time. So I don’t know. You benefit from it, you encourage it at times, I guess you have to take it without a lot of complaining when you get the downside. But regardless, fans at the site ought to act like adults.

  12. PJS

    Feb 23, 2018 at 4:06 pm

    They should have a sign when you walk in. “Idiots, on your i phone, switch that thing on the side so the red shows.” Bang, completely silent photos…

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Check out these limited-edition Ryder Cup Adidas Tour360 shoes



Here are GolfWRX, we love our Ryder Cup swag. Gianni brought you news of the U.S. squad’s apparel and some goodies from Puma last week. Today, we have more Ryder Cup-related gear news for fans of golf’s most storied team competition: Adidas is launching a limited edition Tour360 to commemorate the showdown at Le Golf National.

Available Sept. 24, the shoes draw their inspiration from the famed Ryder Cup trophy. The 10-cleated TPU outsole is designed to look like the wood grain finish at the trophy’s base, and the TPU top plate is shiny and gold like the trophy itself.

While the exterior of the shoe is the same whether your support the United States or Europe, the fortunate souls who snag a pair of the limited-edition shoes will be able to choose their preferred sockliner. One features the American flag and the final scores from every Ryder Cup since 1979, the other, the European flag.

“We know how much the Ryder Cup means to fans all over the world,” said Masun Denison, global footwear director, adidas Golf. “It’s the most competitive event in golf, and brings out a level of emotion that you don’t normally see in the sport. Possession of the Ryder Cup trophy is what both of these teams and fans are after, so we looked to it for inspiration.”

The shoes (MSRP $220) will come with a limited-edition shoe bag and will only available online at

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Rope hat fans, rejoice: Titleist’s Tour Rope Flat Bill is here



The rope hat is having something of a moment, isn’t it? As the mesh trucker fades to the periphery and the outer recesses of hipsterdom where it belongs, the good old-fashioned cotton rope snapback is stepping up to fill the void in vintage-inspired headwear.

Titleist is getting into the rope hat game with its Tour Rope Flat Bill, worn perhaps most prominently by Cameron Smith recently, but seen adorning the heads of Adam Scott, Jason Kokrak, and Rafa Cabrera Bello.

Check ’em out.

The Tour Rope Flat Bill is available on Titleist’s website for $30 now in black/white, navy/white, and white/hunter green colorways.


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GolfWRX Members analyze (and roast) Cosmo Kramer’s golf swing



Kramer Hickok’s win last week on the Tour brought to mind the greatest golfing Kramer of them all: Cosmo Kramer, of course.

Jerry Seinfield’s singular “hipster doofus” next-door neighbor flirted with the great game on occasion, if you recall: Beating ball into the Atlantic (which ultimately factors into George’s great “marine biologist” ruse), Stan the Caddie, playing Westchester, and a handful of other angles.

It’s during the “Marine Biologist” episode that we get a look at Cosmo’s action, and it is something to behold. The fluidity of Snead, here, folks.

We asked our GolfWRX members to fire up their V1 and give us their best breakdown of Kramer’s “driver off the beach” swing. Here are some of the best replies.

BewareTheGlowball writes

“On takeaway the hands get a little too close to the body, which would lead to a tendency to move over the top on the downswing. In this case however, Kramer makes a great move to put the club back on path from the top of his swing. Nearing impact his weight shifts backwards, which he owns and holds it like it was a classic swing of old…Better than about 75% of swings on the driving range when I go out.”

D1bound says: “Looks like he had a seizure.”

Getair23 says: “It’s so bad, he can’t even hit the ocean from the beach!”

ThunderBuzzworth says

“Horizontal takeaway equals more space for that flying elbow and massive hip turn. Then notice his transition and how he violently thrusts his upper body backwards into a silky smooth back-snap finishing with ALL his weight on his rear leg. Considering he is on the beach… take notes on the unorthodox ground impact location which happens to be 10 inches behind the ball to dramatically reduce spin.”

PowderedToastMan knows his Seinfeld: “That swing has the power to kill a whale, literally.”

Nony noke does as well: “Almost as good as Larry David’s swing. Preeettty, preeeettty good.”

And Gioguy21: “Kramer’s reverse C finish is simply poetic – if only he had the man hands necessary to release properly.”

And DavePelz4: “He’s not the Master of his Domain…or his swing.”

ZAP may have the most concise and spot-on breakdown.

“Stack and realaaaaaaaaaaalllllllly tilt.”

Thanks for the analysis, GolfWRX Members! And if anyone else would like to chime in on Cosmo’s club swinging motion, please do. Also, if there’s another swing from the big or small screen you’d like to see scrutinized, let us know.

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