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Who is the best ballstriker you’ve seen in person?



“Ballstriking” is an amorphous term in the world of golf (indeed, it may only be a term in the world of golf). Putting aside the PGA Tour’s official statistical ballstriking category, golfers use the term to refer to the pure-striking flushers of the golf ball.

Thus, there’s an element of subjectivity in any evaluation of “the best ballstriker” a golf fan has ever seen. Certainly, the best striker has command of his clubface, and thus his ballflight. He or she is likely consistent in shot dispersion and generates an ample amount of power. Beyond that? Different ballstrikes for different folks.

Tmartin89 started a forum thread asking his fellow GolfWRX members about the best ball striker they’ve ever seen.

He writes

“I was lucky enough to caddie at the 2008 Open at Royal Birkdale for a friend of mine who made it through local qualifying. I was on the range and saw Garcia, Jimenez, Stenson plus a bunch of other top players hit balls but the best ball striker I saw was Greg Norman.”

Cardoustie says

“Johnny Miller and Moe Norman. Moe beside me on the range. Johnny at the Canadian Open and in a lesson.”

Moe Norman beside you at the range? What an experience! Caniac6 adds

“I followed Nick Price years ago. I’m not sure of the event, it was either the GGO or the Kemper. He shot 30 on the front 9, and never made a long putt. I talked with his caddie after the round, and he said he hits it like that all the time. Now that I think of it, it was the Kemper one of the first years at Avenel.”

Widow-maker says

“George Knudson. I followed him in a US Open qualifier at Detroit Golf Club in 1970. He hit every fairway on the front 9, and all 9 greens and shot 1 under. His ball flight on his driver was exactly the same on every drive he hit.”

Excellent responses and plenty of interesting first-hand observations in this thread that’s less than a week old and more than 110 replies deep.

Check out the thread.


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  1. Joe D

    Feb 1, 2018 at 12:03 am

    Gloria Alred

  2. Jon W

    Jan 31, 2018 at 1:04 pm

    Watched Tom Lehman hit 6 irons on the range at the 1999 Ryder Cup for a half an hour. He probably hit 40 identical shots. Hi soft draw….not sure if hes the best ball striker, but pretty impresssive.

  3. Harry Adam

    Jan 31, 2018 at 1:01 pm

    Sandy Lyle. Rated by Seve as the best striker of his era. He didn’t half give it a thump, and with such a sweet sound.

  4. Paul Vicary

    Jan 31, 2018 at 11:33 am

    Moe Norman. No doubt in my mind. Anyone who was fortunate enough to see him play or practice would have to agree.

  5. M-Herd4

    Jan 31, 2018 at 10:17 am

    We live a block away from a course that used to host the B.C. Open and now hosts the DSG Open so I’ve seen a lot of players over the last 35 years or so. Most recently I’d say Kenny Perry is right up there with the best I’ve seen. Couples moves it pretty good too especially back in the day when he won the B.C. Open.

  6. Patricknorm

    Jan 31, 2018 at 9:13 am

    I’ll say Moe Norman only because when I saw him he hit the ball exactly as he predicated. As many of you know Moe was not normal, possibly autism, there are theories, but I’m answering the question as it is asked.
    Is Norman the best golfer I’ve ever seen ? Of course not. That would go to Tiger and then Jack. I didn’t see Hogan either. Interesting questions. Good for this time of year when there’s a ton of snow on the ground.

  7. frank cichon

    Jan 30, 2018 at 11:42 pm

    Back in the late 1950’s I was lucky enough to caddy in a tournament back in Ontario for Sam Young. ( Sam was one of the assistant Pros at Weston Golf Club in Toronto at the time) He told me that we would be in the same group as the best ball striker in the world. As it turned out I had never heard of Moe Norman…nor did I appreciate his talent…too young I guess…but about 10-12 years later I lived in Newmarket, Ont…just north of Toronto and played at a club at Lake Simcoe quit often with my first wife> I think it was Gilford golf club and the family that owned it let Moe play all the golf he wanted. It was a treat to watch him hit a ball….many a night after work he would cut in front of us & hit 3 balls as we were on the green By the time we got to the tee box (no more than 80-90 yds from the green) we just putted out on he was out of sight …most of the time his 3 drives were within 2 steps. I moved to Vancouver in 1975 and had a great time watching hime play Capilano Golf club in West Vancouver in the late 1970’s…the year before the Senior Tour was formed. He remembered me from Lake Simcoe and I walked down a few fairways with hime talking about the family back in Lake Simcoe.He hit the ball as PURE as humanly possible! George Knudsen was another Guy I saw in person play about a dozen times…I would rank him a close second to Moe. I should add I have been to over 15 PGA Tour events so I did see good ones…Tom Weiskopt …Lee Trevino… As a side note…..I could not believe JB Holmes on the 72 hole at Torrey Pines…..he should read a book about Moe Norman… If Moe had an empty course in front of him he would shoot in the 60″s over 90% of the time but do it in less than 2 hours 100% of the time….FACT!

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Stephen Curry sponsors the creation of golf program at Howard University



NBA star and avid golfer Stephen Curry has donated a seven-figure sum to Howard University in a move that will see men’s and women’s golf teams at the school for at least the next six years.

As the Washington Post reported on Monday, this will be the first time the school will compete at the Division I level in the sport, and the university plans to have the teams ready to compete for the 2020/21 academic year.

Curry’s donation was partly inspired by Howard senior and golfer Otis Ferguson IV, and speaking on bringing golf back to Howard, the 31-year-old stated

“Golf is a sport that has changed my life in ways that are less tangible, but just as impactful. It’s a discipline that challenges your mental wherewithal from patience to focus, and is impossible to truly master, so when you hear about these passionate student athletes who have the talent but don’t have a fair shot at the game, it’s tough. I feel really honored to play a small role in the rich history of Howard University.”

Howard University’s previous collegiate golf team competed in Division II before disbanding three decades ago, and Curry’s donation is set to be paid out over six years in order for the golf team to become self-sustainable.

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Here is where each player will start the Tour Championship



Justin Thomas’ win at last week’s BMW Championship now gives him the lead in the FedEx Cup playoff race heading to the revamped Tour finale. The 26-year-old will start the Tour Championship at 10-under par, with his closest challenger Patrick Cantlay beginning the event two strokes further back at eight-under par.

Here are the starting positions for the 30 players at this week’s Tour Championship.

  • -10: Thomas
  • -8: Patrick Cantlay
  • -7: Brooks Koepka
  • -6: Patrick Reed
  • -5: Rory McIlroy
  • -4: Jon Rahm, Matt Kuchar, Xander Schauffele, Webb Simpson, Abraham Ancer
  • -3: Gary Woodland, Tony Finau, Adam Scott, Dustin Johnson, Hideki Matsuyama
  • -2: Paul Casey, Justin Rose, Brandt Snedeker, Rickie Fowler, Kevin Kisner
  • -1: Marc Leishman, Tommy Fleetwood, Corey Conners, Sungjae Im, Chez Reavie
  • Even Par: Bryson DeChambeau, Louis Oosthuizen, Charles Howell III, Lucas Glover, Jason Kokrak

The Tour Championship takes begins on August 22 from East Lake GC in Atlanta, GA, with the winner receiving $15 million.

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How much each player won at the 2019 BMW Championship



Justin Thomas produced a masterclass at Medinah Country Club to take home the BMW Championship title and with it claim the winner’s check worth just over $1.6 million. In what was a crucial week in the FedEx Cup race, Patrick Cantlay who finished runner-up to Thomas collects a check for just under $1 million and will head to Atlanta for the Tour Championship one place back of the 26-year-old.

With players battling for a place at East Lake and no cut in place, here’s a look at what the 69 players in action earned at last week’s BMW Championship.

1: Justin Thomas $1,665,000.00

2 Patrick Cantlay 999,000.00

3 Hideki Matsuyama 629,000.00

4 Tony Finau 444,000.00

T5 Jon Rahm 351,500.00

T5 Brandt Snedeker 351,500.00

T7 Corey Conners 298,312.50

T7 Lucas Glover 298,312.50

T9 Kevin Kisner 259,000.00

T9 Adam Scott 259,000.00

T11 Tommy Fleetwood 196,100.00

T11 Rickie Fowler 196,100.00

T11 Sungjae Im 196,100.00

T11 Louis Oosthuizen 196,100.00

T11 Kevin Tway 196,100.00

T16 J.T. Poston 148,000.00

T16 Rory Sabbatini 148,000.00

T16 Vaughn Taylor 148,000.00

T19 Jason Kokrak 112,110.00

T19 Marc Leishman 112,110.00

T19 Rory McIlroy 112,110.00

T19 Patrick Reed 112,110.00

T19 Xander Schauffele 112,110.00

T24 Paul Casey 78,856.25

T24 Joel Dahmen 78,856.25

T24 Brooks Koepka 78,856.25

T24 Webb Simpson 78,856.25

T28 Byeong Hun An 65,675.00

T28 Abraham Ancer 65,675.00

T28 Si Woo Kim 65,675.00

T31 Wyndham Clark 53,650.00

T31 Emiliano Grillo 53,650.00

T31 Joaquin Niemann 53,650.00

T31 C.T. Pan 53,650.00

T31 Ian Poulter 53,650.00

T31 Gary Woodland 53,650.00

T37 Billy Horschel 40,700.00

T37 Charles Howell III 40,700.00

T37 Ryan Moore 40,700.00

T37 Scott Piercy 40,700.00

T37 Jordan Spieth 40,700.00

T37 Tiger Woods 40,700.00

T43 Keegan Bradley 30,525.00

T43 Adam Hadwin 30,525.00

T43 Troy Merritt 30,525.00

T43 Ryan Palmer 30,525.00

T43 Andrew Putnam 30,525.00

T48 Bryson DeChambeau 23,865.00

T48 Shane Lowry 23,865.00

T48 Phil Mickelson 23,865.00

T48 Collin Morikawa 23,865.00

T52 Jason Day 21,571.00

T52 Dylan Frittelli 21,571.00

T52 Matt Kuchar 21,571.00

T52 Keith Mitchell 21,571.00

T52 Justin Rose 21,571.00

T57 Jim Furyk 20,627.50

T57 Dustin Johnson 20,627.50

T57 Graeme McDowell 20,627.50

T57 Chez Reavie 20,627.50

T61 Max Homa 20,072.50

T61 Francesco Molinari 20,072.50

T63 Rafa Cabrera Bello 19,702.50

T63 Sung Kang 19,702.50

T65 Cameron Champ 19,240.00

T65 J.B. Holmes 19,240.00

T65 Adam Long 19,240.00

68 Harold Varner III 18,870.00

69 Nate Lashley 18,685.00

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