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With club fitting and club building, there are a lot of factors that can be measured and taken into account. When it comes down to it, though, there are three critical factors that will create the biggest effect on your ball flight. They are known as the 3 L’s: length, lie and loft.

In this video, I explain why the three L’s are important and why you should always ask for your measured specs.

 

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Ryan Barath is a club fitter and master club builder who has more than 15 years experience working with golfers of all skill levels, including PGA Tour professionals. He studied business and marketing at the Mohawk College in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada, and is the former Build Shop Manager & Social Media Coordinator for Modern Golf located in Toronto. He now works independently from his home shop in Hamilton and is a member of advisory panels to a select number of golf equipment manufacturers, including True Temper. You can find Ryan on Twitter and Instagram where he's always willing to chat golf, from course architecture to physics, and share his passion for club building, and wedge grinding.

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  1. frank

    Feb 6, 2018 at 2:04 pm

    If someone does not have access to Trackman or other photographic devices, what is the next best option to determine proper lie angle? You mentioned that a lie board is not recommended?

  2. St. Donald

    Jan 13, 2018 at 12:39 pm

    I did no say Haiti was a sh••hole country… even though it’s TRUE.

  3. x-out

    Jan 12, 2018 at 5:12 pm

    If your swing is inconsistent a fitting will not rescue your incompetence. If you are consistent you may improve your swing with a fitting to enable you to generate more power or control in your swing.
    The old Ping fitting diagrams which measures your ground to wrist joint and your body type is a good start for most golfers without messing around with a costly fitting.
    The danger with a dynamic fitting is that it will destabilize your swing and you have to evolve a new swing dynamic to be consistent again.

  4. John Comninaki

    Jan 12, 2018 at 8:53 am

    In my opinion club length does not fit neatly into toe strikes=longer, heel strikes=shorter. This may apply in a one hour club fitting, but 35 years of teaching has shown me once the player has become accustomed to the new length, the player often returns to the same swing pattern that created the toe and heel strikes. I think it is important to be fitted by someone who knows the players game or the player can return to for follow up and tweaking. Thanks for your videos, lots of good information!

  5. Darren

    Jan 12, 2018 at 8:04 am

    Good video, do you as a fitter still use wrist to floor measurements? And could you do a actual fit on camera to show how you plan and execute that !

    • Ryan Barath

      Jan 12, 2018 at 9:13 pm

      Hi Darren, glad you enjoyed the video.
      I don’t often use wrist to floor and rather use the players current clubs as a baseline and get the specs from there. After that its a matter of going through the fitting process and finding out what combination of specs and components are going to end up offering the best results.

  6. Darren Merrihew

    Jan 11, 2018 at 9:31 pm

    Length of iron question. Does a club that is too long or too short cause heel strikes?

    • Ryan Barath

      Jan 12, 2018 at 9:09 pm

      Typically a club that is too long will cause heel strikes.

  7. Cons

    Jan 11, 2018 at 6:04 pm

    I question flatter lie angles on wedges just to hit half shots better as players hit wedges typically with the steepest attack angle, which in most cases makes the ball go more right.

    • Ryan Barath

      Jan 11, 2018 at 7:11 pm

      My philosophy on flatter wedges isn’t just me. There are lots of coaches & fitters that also promote this view based on solid Trackman / other system data. Although shorter clubs, the likelihood of hitting full shots with a wedge is quite low compared to other clubs in the set and since the face is opened up so often you need a flatter lie to prevent the launch direction to be to far left of target.

    • Edward Pollack

      Jan 12, 2018 at 11:44 am

      Where along the winding road did you decide to correlate start direction with Angle of Attack? You literally made that up. I honestly don’t think that is anywhere else on the internet. Impressive stuff.

  8. the Y

    Jan 11, 2018 at 2:17 pm

    Why is Mizuno the best iron ??

  9. BIGSEAN

    Jan 11, 2018 at 10:47 am

    good stuff here!

  10. Carmen Sandiego

    Jan 11, 2018 at 9:48 am

    Hamilton, Ontario what! Brantford native here (home of the great one)

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