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Tiger’s short game “a lil off” during Monday’s practice round (updated with video)

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Update: 11/28 at 10:45 a.m.

Here’s a video recap of Tiger’s Monday practice round. Fast forward to 1 minute 30 seconds for a montage of his short game shots.

All reports thus far regarding the state of Tiger Woods’ game and health have been glowing ahead of the 2017 Hero World Challenge. That includes comments from Tiger himself, Brad Faxon, on-course reports and his Monday practice round playing partner Patrick Reed. Apparently, Woods outdrove bomber Dustin Johnson “half the time” during a Sunday practice round, and outdrove Reed all day at Albany in the Bahamas on Monday. He’s also feeling “pain free,” in his own words, which Woods himself finds “remarkable.”

After Woods’ Monday practice round with Reed, however, we spoke to a source who was inside the ropes for the duration of the 9 holes; he expressed concern about Woods’ short game.

“Off the tee was really good,” said our inside source. “Irons pretty solid. Short game was a lil off. So we’ll see come competition time.”

Here’s a look at his chipping motion that was posted on Twitter on Monday.

Remember, the last time we saw Woods in competition he suffered from yip-like symptoms with his wedges. He also hasn’t played in a golf tournament since February in the Dubai Desert Classic, so a rusty short game would certainly be expected.

If Woods’ short game really is “a lil off,” as one insider says, he still has time to work out the kinks before Thursday’s 12:05 p.m. start time with playing partner Justin Thomas.

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  1. Steve Wozeniak

    Nov 28, 2017 at 4:21 pm

    He has not changed a damn thing……still a big wipe…..might be able to play a course that you can hit it anywhere like this one. Funny how people say his short game will come around when he gets confidence…..WOW…..such a simple fix too, if he can find someone that understands the golf swing.

    Steve Wozeniak PGA

  2. Tommy

    Nov 28, 2017 at 4:13 pm

    So what, since he doesn’t hole out a tough chip shot, he’s “struggling”?1

  3. Shallowface

    Nov 28, 2017 at 9:27 am

    Saw a few shots on TV yesterday. Results weren’t great but they weren’t “ginchy” looking in the least. Regardless of what some commentators have said short game yips can be overcome. Tiger’s short game may never be what it was (G.O.A.T.) but it can be very good going forward. I expect he’ll figure it out.

  4. Largechris

    Nov 28, 2017 at 7:34 am

    Hope I’m wrong but that’s looks like a nervy stab.

    I don’t particularly believe in the mental damage / baggage theory, I think confidence is more related to practice and testing it in competition.

  5. Dennis Clark

    Nov 28, 2017 at 7:10 am

    Short game at that level is CONFIDENCE! If he gets his inner self belief back, he’s back.

    • John K

      Nov 28, 2017 at 7:11 pm

      Dennis, when someone that is as educated as you are makes this comment I take it as gospel! Agreed 100%.

  6. freowho

    Nov 28, 2017 at 5:51 am

    He has an open stance with the ball back in the stance which causes him to be too steep and spin the ball too much. He needs to close the stance, put the ball forward and get the ball to float and trickle like a putt. Watch Stan Utley.

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GolfWRX members have plenty to say about Justin Thomas’ comments on ‘unacceptable’ fan behavior

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At last week’s Genesis Open, after two days of golf grouped with Tiger Woods and Rory McIlroy, Justin Thomas had seen all the boorish fan behavior he could take, and he decided to say something about it.

And GolfWRX members had a strong response to Thomas’ reponse, as it were. First, here’s what JT had to say last week.

“Yeah, it was pretty wild this first couple days. It was all right for a little bit today, but there at the end it got a little out of hand…I guess it’s a part of it now, unfortunately. I wish it wasn’t. I wish people didn’t think it was so amusing to yell and all that stuff while we’re trying to hit shots and play.”

“I don’t know – I guess they just think it’s funny,” Thomas said. “It might be funny to them, and obviously people think of it differently and I could just be overreacting. But when people are now starting to time it wrong and get in people’s swings, is just completely unacceptable really. We’re out here playing for a lot of money, a lot of points, and a lot of things can happen. And you would just hate to have, hate to see in the future something happen down the line because of something like that.”

You can almost hear the “he’s absolutely right” and “spoiled pro athlete” contingents readying their arms!

Cool Percussion is in the second squadron, and he started a thread with this venomous post.

“Is Justin Thomas justified in his complaints? On one hand, I can see how large galleries can be a distraction to golfers. (I know if I had to play in front of one it would cost me more than “a half shot per round”)

“On the other hand: POOR BABY! Aww poor little Justin is playing in front of a big-boy gallery now. Boo Hoo. Waaaaahhhhh!!! It must be so hard for you to be paired with Tiger and have to deal with the kinds of galleries that he has had to deal with FOR VIRTUALLY HIS ENTIRE CAREER! Grow-up you spoiled, whiny brat.”

“Here’s an idea, Justin: continue to play like you did this week—keep yourself off the top page of the leaderboard—and then no one will want to come see you and you won’t have to deal with large crowds anymore.”

Now, it has to be said, there’s a difference between large crowds, the Tiger Woods crowd, and idiots who yell during a golfer’s backswing. Thomas seemed mostly upset about the latter. Cool Percussion seems to be conflating all three.

Alikane responds with

“I think he has a legitimate complaint. None of the players like distractions when they are hitting shots. Distractions can alter outcomes of tournaments.”

blink 3665 defends JT in this hot take

“I don’t have a problem with his complaint. He didn’t say that a large gallery was the source of his frustration. It was the yelling and pictures while swinging. His quote seems to have a friendly, but annoyed, demeanor. If anything I think he would be in the right to voice more frustration than he did.

“Yes, the large galleries are something that groupings with TW will have to deal with, but that doesn’t give them the right to affect the games of the players by distracting during a swing.

“So why should anyone have to put up with that? Why does his stance against “loud, annoying, drunk, inconsiderate dbs” mean he is a “spoiled whiney brat”? I think that makes him normal.”

Kjboisen doesn’t agree with the percussionist

“Dislike your perspective that JT needs to get used to those larger galleries. I don’t think that is the problem. it’s the drunken morons who yell on backswings and on important putts. If there is going to be noise, make it a constant noise. If there is supposed to be relative silence, and I hear someone yell some B.S on my backstroke for an important putt, it would bother me too.”

“I don’t think the crowds bother anyone unless someone on Tour lives under a damn rock and has never played with a group of friends who will do anything to keep a match alive… conditioned to the distracts. But the other BS is unnecessary and more precaution needs to be taken in my opinion. Active crowd patrol and searching for over-rowdy individuals to remove from the situation before it becomes a problem.”

Dciccoritti points out a likely accelerant

“Remove the booze in all sporting events. If you can’t enjoy a sporting event without getting drunk and stupid, you shouldn’t be there in the first place.”

Golfandfishing draws an interesting connection

“Every week there are posts on here calling out the stupidity of people yelling scrambled eggs bababooey get in the hole woohoo and 5 pages of posts then agree it is stupid. Justin Thomas says the same thing and he’s a spoiled brat?”

The thread is currently six pages long and more than 170 replies deep. In other words, the membership has plenty to say on the topic.

What do you think? Check out the rest of the replies and join the discussion.

 

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Another rules incident for Lexi Thompson

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For Lexi Thompson and the LPGA Tour, the day they hoped would never come has arrived. Lexi Thompson made a rules blunder and nearly signed for an incorrect scorecard for her second round of play at the Honda LPGA Thailand.

Details are scant, but based on a report from Keeley Levins at Golf Digest, it seems Thompson’s ball came to rest near an advertising sign at the 15th hole. Believing the sign was a moveable obstruction, Thompson moved the sign. And, well, you know where this is going. The sign was an immovable obstruction. It’s unclear who Thompson consulted before making her decision, but it doesn’t appear she sought out a rules official.

Unaware that she was in violation, Thompson was told of the two-stroke penalty while she was in the scorers’ tent. After the rules official’s intercession, Thompson signed for a second-round 68, rather than 66.

The LPGA issued this statement

“During the second round of the Honda LPGA Thailand, Lexi Thompson incurred a two-stroke penalty on hole 15 for breach of the Local Rule regarding temporary immovable obstructions as prescribed in Appendix 1. The Supplementary Rules of Play for the Honda LPGA Thailand state that advertising boards are temporary immovable obstructions.”

Now, opinions on what befell Thompson at the 2017 Ana Inspiration range from “she was a victim” to “her cavalier ballmarking finally caught up with her.” Regardless of where you sit in that continuum, you’d have to expect Lexi Thompson would be calling in a rules official in any potentially dubious situation, or at the very least, giving the local rules a close read.

Ultimately, you’d have to think the takesmiths will remain largely entrenched in their post-Ana rules fiasco positions on this one. What say you, GolfWRX members?

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Retired pro cricketer blasts Kevin Na for slow play. Is he right?

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A tweet and follow-up video from a retired English cricketer are making the rounds in the golf social mediaverse and snackable content realms. And while most agree that it’s not a good look for golf when Kevin Pietersen, who has more than three million Twitter followers, mocks Kevin Na for taking a small eternity over a putt and slow play is an issue on Tour, Pietersen may not exactly be hitting the mark.

Anyway, here’s the tweet and succeeding tutorial.

What do you think, GolfWRX members? Surely it’s hyperbole to call the putt a “tap-in,” no? But given the length of the putt, how excessive is the amount of time Na took?

And for the millionth time, expecting players like Kevin Na (who prefers a…deliberate pace) to play quickly because it’s courteous, isn’t going to happen. Pro golf is the man’s job, and he clearly believes he does it best when he does it slowly with great deliberation. Expecting Na, or any other player of a similar mindset, to change without outside influence (slow play penalties) is unrealistic.

In other words, Pietersen ought to include @PGATour in his tweet as well.

Update: Na posted this defense/explanation on Instagram. 

 

 

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