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Another controversial Grayson Murray tweet. Does he have a point or nah?

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Not another “Grayson Murray’s incendiary tweet” post… Yes, WRXers, we’re at this grim place again. But rather than piling on Mr. Murray, as other outlets are keen to, let’s examine what he said and consider the merit of what he had to tweet.

Murray is nary more than week into his return to Twitter, and already he’s courting controversy. In response to Golf Channel’s Will Gray tweeting about the Bernhard-Langer-was-robbed conclusion to the Charles Schwab Cup,

Here’s the since-deleted tweet.

He then followed up with this response to a response, as it were.

Of course, Murray caught plenty of flack and will certainly be getting a call from the good folks in Ponte Vedra. However, it’s worth asking: Do other pros feel this way about the PGA Tour Champions?

The senior circuit, that is, as televised, widely promoted competition is kind of an odd thing. Doubtless, the over-50 set should have a place to play. But in an environment where PGA Tour events can’t all lock up sponsors, it’s a bit strange to see 1,000 ads for the Charles Schwab Cup and an inferior product to PGA Tour, European Tour, and Web.com Tour golf.

But hey, if the sponsorship dollars flow and the viewers view, carry on.

As to Murray’s point about the relevance of the big names on the PGA Tour Champions. While it may be disrespectful and inappropriate, it nevertheless has a measure of validity.

All of this said, you have to wonder how long Murray can afford to keep up his personal quest for honesty and a lack of duplicity on Twitter. Literally, as those PGA Tour fines add up.

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  1. TheCityGame

    Nov 16, 2017 at 1:49 pm

    Grayson Murray doesn’t realize when he takes a shot at the Champions Tour, he’s taking a shot at guys I grew up idolizing. . .guys like Esteban Toledo and Fran Quinn.

    That said. . .until one of you gets a T9 at the Safeway Open, you might want to lay off Grayson.

  2. DoubleMochaMan

    Nov 15, 2017 at 8:17 pm

    This Mr. Grayson seems to have no empathy. I hope he doesn’t have a Grandpa who loves to play golf and watch the Champions Tour. At the rate Grayson is not making money on the pro tour he’ll be quite happy to hit the Champion’s Tour when he comes of age. I will be there to remind him of what he said so many years prior.

  3. Ben Jones

    Nov 15, 2017 at 3:07 pm

    Let’s see Murray tee it up against Langer and then talk. Cinderella boy wishing he had Langer’s ability.

  4. Dirk Digger

    Nov 15, 2017 at 9:03 am

    Who is Grayson Murray? Is he Bill Murray kid? Well, he needs a spanking!

  5. Dirk Digger

    Nov 15, 2017 at 9:03 am

    Who is Grayson Murray? Is he Bill Murray kid? Well, he needs a spanking!

  6. Andrew

    Nov 15, 2017 at 12:24 am

    Torrey Pines subsidizes the rest of the San Diego goat tracks. Should they be closed?

  7. chopper

    Nov 14, 2017 at 7:14 pm

    I watch a fair amount of golf, and I am pretty sure that if it were not for his Twitter vomit, I would have never heard of Grayson Murray. In other words his opinion of relevancy is not relevent.

  8. Gary Herron

    Nov 14, 2017 at 5:29 pm

    IMO the Champions (Senior Tour) or whatever you want to call it , it lost it’s appeal when they made it nearly in possible for Journeyman Golfers to qualify for the PGA events. Bring back Larry Lorette, Ben Smith , Robert Landers and the Iron workers, Driving Range owners , Auto Mechanics who added color and human interest stories to the game. Now they game is saturated with PGA pros that are looking for retirement income or hoping to achieve the glory they failed to get on the regular tour.

    • RHJazz

      Nov 14, 2017 at 9:18 pm

      Completely agree. It’s become a closed club that’s probably the hardest tour to get into. Used to be fun to think you could make a run at it – I mean at 50 I’ve got much more time and money to play golf! I loved the stories of guys getting there first chance at professional golf as seniors. Not so interested anymore and I certainly don’t daydream about it…

  9. orangeology

    Nov 14, 2017 at 3:00 pm

    what a big deal. the era of the sea of SNS. Paige Spiranac plays golf with her boobies, this Gray Who guys plays golf with his fingers. whether you value the fedex ranking or those numbers of likes and RTs, up to you. right?

  10. scott smith

    Nov 14, 2017 at 11:51 am

    I agree 100% with Graysons comments however in his position probably keeping them to himself was the right thing to do…and I`m 59 years old if that means anything.

  11. Henry

    Nov 14, 2017 at 11:46 am

    This grayson guy who ive never heard of is obviously attention seeking. Clearly. And reporters like urself are actually tryinf to make him sound clever when in fact what he said is pretty stupid. Cus honestly, id rather watch Langer play over him anyday of the week. Grayson who?

  12. M-Herd4

    Nov 14, 2017 at 10:43 am

    Nah. I really enjoy watching/following the Champions Tour. I just enjoy watching players make this great/difficult game look easy. At 48 years old now I relate more to the over 50 crowd and even quite a few of the LPGA players more than I do some young 20 something who just likes to create a stir on social media. And technically, the PGA Tour doesn’t subsidize itself. The PGA Tour Champions is a branch of the PGA Tour. Whether the PGA Tour makes any revenue off of the Champions Tour is a different story.

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Is this the worst “my clubs were stolen” story ever?

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Tom Owen. Remember the name, because this unfortunate gentleman may have the worst tale of club theft in recent memory.

Now, the experience of having one’s bag pilfered, never to be seen again, is awful. Your clubs are simply gone, and you have no idea who took them and where they went. Tom Owen had the first part of that experience, however, he knows exactly where his clubs are…and he can’t (legally) do anything about it.

Therese Henkin New Zealand’s Howick & Pakuranga Times originally reported the story.

Mr. Owen’s bag, with its thousands of dollars of equipment and his cell phone, was lifted December 15th from Howick Golf Course at Musick Point, New Zealand.

“They took everything, all my clubs, my bag, trundle, golf balls and my mobile phone which was tucked away inside the bag,” he told the paper.

However, as this is the 21st century, Owen was able to track his phone (which was in his golf bag) to a nearby residential address on Pigeon Mountain Road.

Presumably overjoyed, he called the police to report the theft and the location of his stolen property. One can only imagine his despair when he was told the authorities would be unable to lawfully search the premises and thus could not recover his clubs.

After reporting the incident, Owen was surprised to learn that police were not able to search the premises for the goods.

A police spokesperson explained.

“While we understand people may think police can use the tracking system people use on their phones and then send a patrol car to retrieve the property, under the Search and Surveillance Act 2012, police officers do not have the authority to enter a premise based off a locater app on a missing phone. If police resources are available and the technology can pin-point a specific address such as a household, Police are able to knock on the door and make enquiries, but not enter.”

Obviously, Owen isn’t a fan of the law, and he thinks it puts victims in a bad position. He’s right: Knowing the authorities can’t do anything, but knowing where your stolen phone, etc, is, do you risk your life taking the law into your own hands?

“It’s very frustrating to know where your stolen items are and not have anyone do anything about it. If police really can’t act on the information you give them, then something needs to change.”

What do you think, GolfWRX members? Does this make any sense? Do you join Owen in calling for a rewriting of the law?

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Phil Mickelson’s pursuit of average driving, Phil being Phil, and plenty more Mickelsonia from the wires today

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Phil Mickelson. We tend to forget the left-hander remains a divisive, swashbuckling figure as he settles into the home stretch of his PGA Tour career. We pretend that his outrageous risk-taking-masquerading-as-cool-calculation approach to the game is somehow something other than an affront to the plodding, conservative way the game was “meant to be played.” Phil Mickelson: Even those who can’t stand him have to be deeply intrigued by Mickelson the Man and Mickelson the Golfer. How can you not be fascinated? How can you not be frustrated?

The 47-year-old begins his season at the CareerBuilder Challenge this week seeking his first victory since the 2013 British Open. Thus, it’s not surprising to see a rash of Mickelson-related pieces populating the golf newswire today.

Here are a few morsels. Per Cameron Morfit of PGATour.com, Mickelson is pursuing “average” driving this year. The left-hander has historically struggled with the big stick and placed outside the top 100 in strokes gained: off-the-tee last season,

Here’s what Mickelson said about his pursuit of mediocrity off the tee.

“What’s funny is when you’re good at something, chipping, putting, wedges, distance control, all that stuff, it’s easy. It takes me a day or two of practice to get back to kind of an elite level. But to become just an average driver when you’re not good at it, it takes a lot of work. And that’s what I’ve been spending the last few years on, really trying to figure it out. Get the swing plane right, get shallower into the ball, get the weighting of the driver right. The whole mental approach to the driver. Just to get everything dialed in just to be average.”

“I just don’t want to give away shots off the tee. I don’t need to gain shots off the tee; I’ll gain them elsewhere. I feel like the short putting has been addressed. I feel like, and believe, that I’ve had a bit of a breakthrough with the driver. And if that happens, I think 2018 could be a remarkable year, a year where I can win multiple times.”

Golfweek’s Brentley Romine has some interesting remarks from Jon Rahm. Rahm, of course, was coached by Phil’s brother Tim at Arizona State–a job Mickelson left to manage Rahm. Tim Mickelson then ditched that gig to loop for his brother after Bones Mackay dropped his bag to pick up a microphone. In other words, Rahm has seen the pair up close plenty of times, and had this to say about the difference between his approach to the game and that of the variable-obsessed Mickelson

“It’s really fun to hear how they (Phil and Tim) talk to each other, because Tim being my coach at ASU, I don’t need much – “Okay, it’s like 120 (yards), this shot, right?’” Rahm said. “And you have Phil, it’s like, ‘Oh, this shot, the moisture, this going on, this is like 1 mph wind sideways, it’s going to affect it 1 yard. This green is soft, this trajectory. They’re thinking (that) and I’m like, ‘I’m lost.

“It’s funny, he gets to the green and then it’s the same thing. He’s very detail-oriented. He gets there and I’m like, ‘Oh, it’s a foot right.’ And he goes, okay, he reads the green, like, ‘Oh, it’s 1.8 degrees of slope here and this and that. And I’m there listening and I’m like, ‘Man, I hope we’re never paired together for anything because I can’t think like this.’ I would not be able to play golf like that. For me to listen to all that is really fun. And then you hear me and Adam talk, ‘180, a little breeze into, okay, hard six.’ … And it’s just opposite extremes completely.”

Different strokes before making strokes.

Then, there is this piece from Shane Ryan exploring the nature of Phil Mickelson, if you will, and suggesting he could impress this year. Of course, this is a wholly inadequate description of a piece for Golfworld you absolutely must read.

 

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What’s your favorite photo from the history of pro golf?

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Golf history, as we know, is rich. Dramatic storylines, pithy anecdotes, iconic equipment, and storybook shots are all woven into the vibrant tapestry of the game at the professional level.

It’s no surprise, then, that from the rough black-and-white of Old Tom Morris, open-stanced, gazing past the camera to his target, to the present DSLR shots, the history of the professional game is peppered with great photographs.

WRX member Christosterone started a thread with the question, “What’s your favorite tour picture and why?”

He offered this shot of “three reverse-c idols and a Texan.”

Of course, it only took one response, for someone to offer up this classic shot of Arnold Palmer and Ben Hogan. One assumes that the fact that they didn’t care for one another only enhanced their badass postures.

 

Also, dicko999 (who better to post the following?), offered a cropped version of the legendary Presidents Cup streaker shot. Beyond the absurdity of the scene, the facial expressions make this shot great.

Just a fantastic thread that you’ll want to check out–and hopefully add a photo of your own to.

Check out the thread.

 

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