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Tiger Woods: I can’t go back to my 2000 swing, so stop asking me to



We all remember Tiger Woods’ world-beating, fully torqued golf swing under Butch Harmon.

He won 27 times from 1999 through 2002, including seven major championships. Doubtless, this was the best era of Woods’ career. However, in 2003, Woods left Harmon and began rebuilding his swing under Hank Haney.

At that time, and seemingly in every discussion of Woods’ swing since, a chorus of “why did he change” sings.

Woods has alluded to the fact that the stress the swing placed on his left knee, which he rapidly snapped straight during the downswing, was wrecking his knee.

The knee was always suspect. He had a tumor removed from it while at Stanford in 1994, and then a cyst removed eight years later. He also had fluid drained at that time, and likely more than just the one time that’s on the official record.

Thus, Woods felt his only choice was to transition to an action that put less stress on the joint. Accordingly, returning to his Harmon-era swing was never a possibility.

Woods told Geno Auriemma on his “Holding Court” podcast that there’s no possibility of a return to that swing.

“I can’t. My knee is trashed from all those years of playing that way. I’ve had four operations on my knee. Forget when my back was bad; pre-surgery and pre-back problems, people were saying the same thing: ‘Why don’t you go back to 2000?’ I can’t; my knee’s trashed from playing that way, I can’t do that anymore. I have to look for a different way.”

So, while many (hopefully most) people understood Woods knee issues made a return to his 2000 swing an impossibility, Woods’ remarks should put that suggestion to bed forever.

(h/t Luke Kerr-Dineen)

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  1. Bring back 2000s tiger

    Jul 17, 2018 at 11:24 am

    People commenting it was his swing… It was the gym work, look at the transformation from cardio and high rep training to trying to beef up with low reps & high weights. Around the same time he started getting his problems.

    Yoga and a high rep low weight training session would get him back mobile and pain free.

    I have gone from a 14 handicap to 3 in 2 years from changing my workout from high weight to low weight. I feel so much quicker and fitter as I am not carrying around all this extra weight

  2. Paul Booij

    Nov 25, 2017 at 3:26 pm

    I tried his 2000 swing. Distance was awesome. Could shape it both ways for a while. My knee hurt and back as well. I quit and slowed down. Just focus on work now and play a few rounds a year.

  3. UnclePhil

    Nov 9, 2017 at 10:54 pm

    And neither can you go back to being a good person. Who needs ya?

  4. OB

    Nov 9, 2017 at 4:08 pm

    With a bum left knee, Tiger will not be able to drive the ball over 300 yards, and that will relegate him to the bottom of the PGA heap. You can’t compete with only one good knee joint and a suspect knee that could give out at any moment.
    So what is the purpose of trying to return to play tour golf? What is he thinking?

  5. Earl

    Nov 9, 2017 at 1:44 pm

    Are Adam Scott’s knees and back trashed? Stop blaming others. Better yet, disappear so nobody can hear your whining and lying or see your adultery and drug addiction.

    • K_Runkasaurus

      Nov 9, 2017 at 2:19 pm

      Observe everybody: ignorance.

    • Ross

      Nov 11, 2017 at 12:30 pm

      Ah another person who thinks the Woods and Scott swing are the same. Amusing

  6. Milo

    Nov 9, 2017 at 12:36 pm

    Thanks for stating the obvious.

  7. C

    Nov 9, 2017 at 12:04 pm

    That’s fine. Just stop dipping during the downswing and getting stuck at the bottom.

    • H

      Nov 9, 2017 at 12:33 pm

      I think he’s trying to emulate Charles Barkley’s dip and stop style

    • Dr.

      Nov 9, 2017 at 7:30 pm

      He has to ‘dip’ to keep his wonky knees exercised otherwise they go stiff.

  8. weekend duffer

    Nov 9, 2017 at 12:04 pm

    A swing so perfect the human body could not handle it.

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Fancy a punt? Check out these Tiger Woods British Open prop bets



It wouldn’t be a major featuring Tiger Woods without Tiger Woods prop bets, would it? Bettors, as we know, get off the sidelines to shovel cash behind Woods when he tees it up in major championships. This has been historically true. It was true at the Masters. It was true at the U.S. Open.

Accordingly, the good folks at BetDSI are offering a number of Woods wagers you may be keen to punt on…especially if you want a piece of the TW action but aren’t keen to take Woods at 24-1 to win The Open.

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WATCH Phil Mickelson hit a flop shot over a man 2 yards in front of him



On the Gear Dive podcast, Fred Couples told Johnny Wunder that Phil Mickelson is the best judge of a lie (and the shots he can execute from a certain lie) in the game of golf.

This video from Carnoustie yesterday is testament both to that fact and a reminder that Phil Mickelson’s short game is truly singular.

Former European Tour pro Gary Evans was the guinea pig.

Here’s the shot from another angle. That’s gotta be a 64-degree Callaway Mack Daddy PM Grind, no?

Mother of golf gods! Check your trousers, Gary! How crazy is that shot? There’s plenty of puffery when it comes to Phil’s short game, but that shot is simply insane. Would love to see the Trackman data on that flop.

I mean, if Phil doesn’t get the contact he wants and you get hit, you gotta hope to get pelted in the stomach or chest…and not the jewels or the face.

What do you think, GolfWRX members? Would you take Evans place for viral video fame? A few bills from Mickelson’s famed cash wad?

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Want to watch Rickie Fowler drive it 458 yards? Sure you do!



I’m not about to act like Rickie Fowler had some Hulk-meets-Joe Miller moment at the Scottish Open and belted a drive more than 450 yards.

No, Dick Fowler, P.I.,was massively aided by baked out Gullane, the contours of the fairway, and likely a decent tailwind. Obviously. He’d certainly admit that fact, and it’s abundantly clear he smacked his drive down a concrete ski slope.

That said, a 458-yard drive is a 458-yard drive, and it’s a spectacle worth watching.

Check it out.

All credit to the Cobra King F8+ and Aldila NV 2KXV Blue 70X shaft; check out Fowler’s full WITB here.

Fowler finished tied for sixth place at 14-under.

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