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Coming to professional golf: a tournament with no par putts

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Chubby Chandler, Lee Westwood’s former manager and head of International Sports Management, chatted with Golf World’s John Huggan, and you won’t believe what he had to say.

No, Chandler didn’t spill the beans on his split with Westy (confidentiality agreements ensure that will never happen). However, he did reveal something potentially more interesting: A European Challenge Tour event next year where there will be no par putts.

That’s right, in an extreme effort to combat slow play, players will pick up when facing a par putt. Further, as soon as a player doesn’t achieve par, he’ll pocket his ball…even if he hasn’t made it to the green.

“It won’t just be that par doesn’t count. The players will be banned from putting out once they haven’t made a birdie,” Chandler told Huggan. “That way they will all be round in three hours. We will have two points for a birdie, five for an eagle and eight for an albatross. That’s been done before. But no putting for par, which counts as zero. So you can’t knock it out of a bunker to four-feet and putt for par. Not allowed. And that’s where things will speed up.”

“Everybody is in with a chance right to the end,” Chandler says. “That might all turn out wrong. But it could also be really exciting. We’ll see. We’re not changing the game that much. We’re just making it quicker and getting rid of the dull bits. No one really gives a bleep about eight-footers for par.”

What do you think WRXers? Like all potentially great disruptive ideas, this sounds like sheer madness…or it could be brilliant. Will it “all turn out wrong,” or will we see a massively more entertaining product?

 

(h/t Geoff Shackelford) 

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  1. Joey5Picks

    Nov 10, 2017 at 3:49 pm

    I have an idea; once a team is inside the 5 yard line, call it a touchdown! In basketball, only dunks count for 2 pts! Tee shots in the trees can be dropped in the middle of the fairway (no one gives a bleep about punch-outs).

  2. James Browne

    Nov 10, 2017 at 7:15 am

    This will just cause there to be about 20 people tied on the same score at the end of the tournament.

  3. Nick

    Nov 9, 2017 at 7:54 am

    My simple solution to speed the game up is only allow a player to mark his/her ball once on the green (unless directly in another players line). How often do we see a player mark his ball, clean and wipe, as many as three times on a single green?

  4. Sq

    Nov 8, 2017 at 8:16 pm

    YES, YES, YES….bring this to my course immediately!!!!

  5. SK

    Nov 8, 2017 at 3:52 pm

    How about just putting out and no lengthy green re-reading on the second and third putts? That would speed up play and stop macho chatter on the greens while other golfers are waiting in the fairway to get on the green.
    I doubt footprint indentation is significant on today’s green designs so that is not a factor in scoring. Of course one can estimate the lines of putts for others, and there is no need to take the ball out of the hole until everybody putts out. The hole is deep enough to hold 4 balls.
    Other than searching for lost balls, socializing on the greens does slow down play a lot.

  6. Marnix

    Nov 8, 2017 at 2:35 pm

    What is missed in the comments is that this is all about points, and pars earn 0 points – it’s not stroke play! This is somewhat similar to Stableford, where a net double bogey (relative to your handicap) earns 0 points so players in friendly rounds in Europe will often pick up and note a 0 for the hole when the chance for their net bogey is lost. I think it sounds like great fun actually and should indeed make for faster rounds.

  7. Hans

    Nov 8, 2017 at 12:34 pm

    Not only does this totally change the game in a way that takes out a lot of strategy (all the way to the tee box, might as well bomb it almost every time to setup birdie chances, since if you don’t make birdie it doesn’t matter.), but this also may take some of the drama out of ending. Part of the theater of golf is that it’s not just about birdies to make comebacks it’s also about leaders giving up shots. Jordan Spieth wins the US Open after DJ 3putts at Chambers Bay and loses the Masters the next year after blowing at no12, etc. If a leader can go into the back nine with no fear of losing shots, it completely changes the drama of tournament golf. I’m sure some players will like the reduced stress, but for the fans watching, It may suck out a lot of the drama

  8. gretch

    Nov 8, 2017 at 2:35 am

    Tiger woods would have won last years Hero in this format.

    I bet he would think it is stupid too.

  9. TR1PTIK

    Nov 8, 2017 at 1:04 am

    I hope this idea fails miserably…

  10. Robert Parsons

    Nov 7, 2017 at 3:26 pm

    That is the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard.

    How about just put a shot clock on them once they get to their ball? And don’t let Sergio complain about a lie for half an hour. Just give him his one or two options and give him 30 seconds to decide and start the shot clock?

    Nobody earns par the way we do. Period.

  11. golfbum

    Nov 7, 2017 at 3:20 pm

    New to the MASTERS! EVERYONE GETS A FIRST PLACE TROPHY!

  12. Ross

    Nov 7, 2017 at 2:59 pm

    This is a ridiculous idea, golf is more than make Birdie and move on.

  13. Regis

    Nov 7, 2017 at 2:51 pm

    Chandler is a self promoting schill. Years ago he convinced then number 1 Westwood and a young number 3 Rory to boycott The Players in an attempt to shift focus to the Euro Tour and his pocketbook indirectly. Keep shoveling it Chubby

  14. Madre

    Nov 7, 2017 at 2:32 pm

    This only works if everyone is on the green with a descent chance making a par, birdie or eagle putt. If you’re still in the fairway for par and others are on the green for par, how is that comparable play? Not sure how this rewards really good players from lucky hacks.

  15. george

    Nov 7, 2017 at 1:57 pm

    Bushwaaaaa

  16. george

    Nov 7, 2017 at 11:35 am

    Yes, play the game like the amateurs. Every par putt under eight feet is considered holed.

  17. Jacked_Loft

    Nov 7, 2017 at 11:00 am

    Got to love it. Most players will only play a handfull of holes to the end, and the others will complain that they have to stand around and wait.

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Billy Horschel, Brandel Chamblee battle on Twitter re: Tiger’s swing

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Yes, friends, Billy Horschel and Brandel Chamblee traded barbs on Twitter. And while the specific issue, Tiger Woods’ swing, gets the headline, it’s worth noting that Horschel questioned the Golf Channel analyst’s ability to, well, analyze, more broadly.

Before getting to Chamblee’s latest bit of hornet’s nest kicking, it’s worth examining Horschel’s point: As Chamblee is “a ghost on the range,” and doesn’t talk to players about their swings or coaches about what they’re trying to get their players to do, Horschel doesn’t believe he’s qualified to talk about current player swings.

That’s a bold claim, but it’s one that’s almost certainly echoed by many of Horschel’s fellow PGA Tour pros. It’s certainly the way Tiger Woods, who by all accounts despises Chamblee and has lobbied behind the scenes for the analyst’s firing, feels.

Anyway, onto the exchange. Chamblee, not surprisingly, feels Woods’ action before the advent of Trackman. This is, of course, a moot point as Woods himself stated firmly his left knee issues made his early 2000s swing unsustainable. Regardless, Chamblee decided to tell his followers to emulate Woods’ early 2000s action and stay away from his “Trackman drunk” Foley-era swing.

Then, well, you don’t need play-by-play…

Nice to see Chamblee was able to work in his callback “lift your left heel.” A lot to unpack here, WRXers. What do you think?

 

(credit to Golf.com for the screenshotting)

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Who’s the best golfer without a major right now?

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In this week’s episode of “Yo, GolfWRX?!” equipment expert Brian Knudson and Editor Andrew Tursky cover a wide variety of topics including Grayson Murray vs. Bernhard Langer, Breakfast Balls and Tiger Woods rumors. Also, who’s currently the best player without a major?

Watch the video below to see their answers:

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Sergio Garcia is playing Callaway equipment, but he’s not a staffer (yet)

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As we reported last month, Sergio Garcia and TaylorMade ended their 15-year relationship. And as the GolfWRX forums have been speculating, Garcia will play Callaway equipment at the DP World Tour Championship this week.

However, as ESPN reports, Garcia and Callaway are yet to reach an agreement — and it doesn’t seem that an arrangement is imminent. All Garcia was willing to concede was Callaway’s leader-of-the-pack status.

“At the moment it’s the company that’s in front of the other ones,” Garcia said. “What we’ve been testing, the numbers have been really good with the balls that Callaway has brought to me. Now it’s just a matter of trying it on the golf course and trying it in tournament play, and seeing how it reacts and seeing how it feels.”

The decision to test the potential clubs he’s signing on to play in competition is a wise one, certainly.

Garcia’s remarks about parting ways with TMag, however, were a bit curious.

“It wasn’t only my decision,” Garcia said. “I spent 15 years with TaylorMade but unfortunately things come to an end. All companies change and the politics with TaylorMade have changed after leaving Adidas. We couldn’t come to an agreement. I understand that it’s also difficult when you have so many top players, to keep all of them. Unfortunately we were in that package.”

Politics? Package? What exactly went down? We’d have to assume Garcia was trying to leverage his major victory and strong season for a bigger piece of the sponsorship dollar pie. His remarks seem to suggest, however, TMag wasn’t willing to give him as much pie as he was asking for.

We’ll get you Garcia’s full Callaway WITB as soon as we have it.

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