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Coming to professional golf: a tournament with no par putts



Chubby Chandler, Lee Westwood’s former manager and head of International Sports Management, chatted with Golf World’s John Huggan, and you won’t believe what he had to say.

No, Chandler didn’t spill the beans on his split with Westy (confidentiality agreements ensure that will never happen). However, he did reveal something potentially more interesting: A European Challenge Tour event next year where there will be no par putts.

That’s right, in an extreme effort to combat slow play, players will pick up when facing a par putt. Further, as soon as a player doesn’t achieve par, he’ll pocket his ball…even if he hasn’t made it to the green.

“It won’t just be that par doesn’t count. The players will be banned from putting out once they haven’t made a birdie,” Chandler told Huggan. “That way they will all be round in three hours. We will have two points for a birdie, five for an eagle and eight for an albatross. That’s been done before. But no putting for par, which counts as zero. So you can’t knock it out of a bunker to four-feet and putt for par. Not allowed. And that’s where things will speed up.”

“Everybody is in with a chance right to the end,” Chandler says. “That might all turn out wrong. But it could also be really exciting. We’ll see. We’re not changing the game that much. We’re just making it quicker and getting rid of the dull bits. No one really gives a bleep about eight-footers for par.”

What do you think WRXers? Like all potentially great disruptive ideas, this sounds like sheer madness…or it could be brilliant. Will it “all turn out wrong,” or will we see a massively more entertaining product?


(h/t Geoff Shackelford) 

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  1. Joey5Picks

    Nov 10, 2017 at 3:49 pm

    I have an idea; once a team is inside the 5 yard line, call it a touchdown! In basketball, only dunks count for 2 pts! Tee shots in the trees can be dropped in the middle of the fairway (no one gives a bleep about punch-outs).

  2. James Browne

    Nov 10, 2017 at 7:15 am

    This will just cause there to be about 20 people tied on the same score at the end of the tournament.

  3. Nick

    Nov 9, 2017 at 7:54 am

    My simple solution to speed the game up is only allow a player to mark his/her ball once on the green (unless directly in another players line). How often do we see a player mark his ball, clean and wipe, as many as three times on a single green?

  4. Sq

    Nov 8, 2017 at 8:16 pm

    YES, YES, YES….bring this to my course immediately!!!!

  5. SK

    Nov 8, 2017 at 3:52 pm

    How about just putting out and no lengthy green re-reading on the second and third putts? That would speed up play and stop macho chatter on the greens while other golfers are waiting in the fairway to get on the green.
    I doubt footprint indentation is significant on today’s green designs so that is not a factor in scoring. Of course one can estimate the lines of putts for others, and there is no need to take the ball out of the hole until everybody putts out. The hole is deep enough to hold 4 balls.
    Other than searching for lost balls, socializing on the greens does slow down play a lot.

  6. Marnix

    Nov 8, 2017 at 2:35 pm

    What is missed in the comments is that this is all about points, and pars earn 0 points – it’s not stroke play! This is somewhat similar to Stableford, where a net double bogey (relative to your handicap) earns 0 points so players in friendly rounds in Europe will often pick up and note a 0 for the hole when the chance for their net bogey is lost. I think it sounds like great fun actually and should indeed make for faster rounds.

  7. Hans

    Nov 8, 2017 at 12:34 pm

    Not only does this totally change the game in a way that takes out a lot of strategy (all the way to the tee box, might as well bomb it almost every time to setup birdie chances, since if you don’t make birdie it doesn’t matter.), but this also may take some of the drama out of ending. Part of the theater of golf is that it’s not just about birdies to make comebacks it’s also about leaders giving up shots. Jordan Spieth wins the US Open after DJ 3putts at Chambers Bay and loses the Masters the next year after blowing at no12, etc. If a leader can go into the back nine with no fear of losing shots, it completely changes the drama of tournament golf. I’m sure some players will like the reduced stress, but for the fans watching, It may suck out a lot of the drama

  8. gretch

    Nov 8, 2017 at 2:35 am

    Tiger woods would have won last years Hero in this format.

    I bet he would think it is stupid too.

  9. TR1PTIK

    Nov 8, 2017 at 1:04 am

    I hope this idea fails miserably…

  10. Robert Parsons

    Nov 7, 2017 at 3:26 pm

    That is the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard.

    How about just put a shot clock on them once they get to their ball? And don’t let Sergio complain about a lie for half an hour. Just give him his one or two options and give him 30 seconds to decide and start the shot clock?

    Nobody earns par the way we do. Period.

  11. golfbum

    Nov 7, 2017 at 3:20 pm


  12. Ross

    Nov 7, 2017 at 2:59 pm

    This is a ridiculous idea, golf is more than make Birdie and move on.

  13. Regis

    Nov 7, 2017 at 2:51 pm

    Chandler is a self promoting schill. Years ago he convinced then number 1 Westwood and a young number 3 Rory to boycott The Players in an attempt to shift focus to the Euro Tour and his pocketbook indirectly. Keep shoveling it Chubby

  14. Madre

    Nov 7, 2017 at 2:32 pm

    This only works if everyone is on the green with a descent chance making a par, birdie or eagle putt. If you’re still in the fairway for par and others are on the green for par, how is that comparable play? Not sure how this rewards really good players from lucky hacks.

  15. george

    Nov 7, 2017 at 1:57 pm


  16. george

    Nov 7, 2017 at 11:35 am

    Yes, play the game like the amateurs. Every par putt under eight feet is considered holed.

  17. Jacked_Loft

    Nov 7, 2017 at 11:00 am

    Got to love it. Most players will only play a handfull of holes to the end, and the others will complain that they have to stand around and wait.

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This new Miura documentary is must-watch stuff for equipment junkies



Last week, we told you a Miura documentary was on the horizon. Today, it’s here.

The mysterious Japanese company’s wares have had a cult following in the golf equipment space since company founder, Katsuhiro Miura, began forging and hand-grinding clubs in 1957. The three-chapter documentary short begins by looking into company history, building techniques, and Miura’s reputation globally.

“Within Japan, the name Miura, specifically the name of our founder, Katsuhiro Miura, it is a legend,” says Shinei Miura.

Such is the bold, and entirely appropriate, start to Discovering Perfection: The Miura Story, and it only gets more interesting from there.

Just 10 minutes in length, this short documentary is well worth your time. Check it out!

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Is Rory McIlroy right about drunken fan behavior? GolfWRX members debate



Rory McIlroy’s brilliant Sunday performance at the Arnold Palmer Invitational is rightfully in the headlines, but his remarks after his Saturday round continue to spur debate.

McIlroy, it seems, was repeatedly heckled by a likely overserved gentleman. He told ESPN

“There was one guy out there who kept yelling my wife’s name. I was going to go over and have a chat with him. I don’t know, I think it’s gotten a little much, to be honest. I think that they need to limit alcohol sales on the course, or they need to do something because every week, it seems like guys are complaining about it more and more.”

McIlroy is right about “guys complaining more and more.” We’ve already heard from the Ulsterman and Justin Thomas on the issue of fan behavior this year. But is he right to suggest limiting alcohol? Is this more an issue of drunk idiots or idiots generally?

GolfWRX members discussed McIlroy’s remarks in a forum thread salmon1a started.

Christosterone positions golf in the pantheon of sport and says there’s no place for heckling

“What kind of a loser follows Rory around yelling his wife’s name?? One can imagine he was not simply yelling her name…but was saying something crass about her…Either we tolerate the behavior or we don’t…heckling is different from interrupting a stroke…And we all know heckling when we see it..The question is whether or not we allow it…Golf is a concentration sport on par with gymnastics [as related to focus]. Imagine if some idiot was heckling Simone Biles between events…they would be tossed”

Titleist670 on where to draw the line and the fact that heckling is bad for other fans too

“A little good natured ribbing is one thing, but when you start following players around and yelling personal insults I’m fine with getting these people off the course.”

“The other issue is some of the obnoxious folks ruin it for other fans. I’m sure there are kids after the rounds who would like autographs or to see their favorite players, but after 18 holes of dealing with drunks yelling mashed potatoes after every shot, there are guys who probably just want to get the F out of there.”

JaNelson38 puts some of the blame on volunteer marshals

“This is the #1 drawback to having volunteers act as marshals and crowd control…I personally think each venue should provide security each week to help alleviate this problem, even if it costs some purse money.”

Dave230 says the context doesn’t make it appropriate

“You shouldn’t have to listen to somebody pester you shouting your wife’s name all day around the course in any walk of life. It wouldn’t be accepted at anyone’s work. It would lead to a fight at a bar. So why should a professional sportsperson have to suck it up?”

MrWolf thinks something is brewing

“McIlroy is spot on, just like Justin Thomas. Players are clearly unhappy and I doubt it’s just those two…It’ll be interesting to see if this issue comes to a head between the players and the tour. It might be that player power is the only way to force the tour to actually do something about the plethora of d***heads that seem to attend tournaments these days.”

What do you think, GolfWRX members? Page through the 100 replies regarding this ongoing discussion that doesn’t look to be going anywhere anytime soon and offer your take. And if PGA Tour officials are considering action, they’d do well to do the same for a thorough treatment of the issue.

Check out the thread. 

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The 5 best #GolfWRX photos on Instagram today



If you’re on Instagram, you’re hopefully aware that we are ‘gramming it up as well (@golfwrx). And if you’re not following us, well, that hurts our feelings more than a three-putt bogey.

Even if you do follow WRX on Instagram, however, you may not be aware that an abundance of equipment enthusiasts are hashtagging their photos #GolfWRX. We feel it’s only right to feature the best of the WRX-tagged imagery here.

And if you’re not on Instagram, well there’s no way you could see these photos, so think of this series as a handy filter for the best #GolfWRX photos from the past 24 hours.

Chris Trott shows off how he speeds up the drying process on a paintfill when pressed for time

Dave Nguyen with  his #newbabe

Pat Lucci displays his custom Lamont Mann putter cover

The Wedge Wizard reveals his “stone finish”

Andrew Halford‘s beautiful custom Newport 2

Don’t forget to tag your photos #GolfWRX. Golf gods willing, you’ll be featured here in the future!


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