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SPOTTED: Wilson C300 prototype driver and forged irons

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On the range at the 2017 Shriners Hospitals for Children Open in Las Vegas, we spotted new Wilson C300 driver and iron prototypes in staffer Ricky Barnes’ bag. Based on the photos we shot of the clubs, it’s clear the company is sticking with some familiar technologies, including speed slots, and “FLX Face,” which was a technology used in its C200 and D300 irons to boost forgiveness and distance. Based on stampings on the new C300 iron prototypes, the irons are also forged.

Here’s what Wilson had to say about Barnes’ prototypes:

 “A central part of our innovation process is play-testing and refining clubs with our Wilson Advisory Staff before we introduce them to the market,” said Tim Clarke, President of Wilson Golf. “We are excited to introduce our new C300 clubs to golfers by year’s end. Ricky’s feedback has led to something we are very excited about and his use of the C300 Driver reinforces that.”

And here’s what GolfWRX members are saying about the new equipment. Check out more photos of the clubs below.

Wilson C300 driver proto

Wilson C300 Forged iron protos

See what GolfWRX members are saying about the C300 prototypes in our forums.

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  1. Per-Eric Gustavsson

    Nov 7, 2017 at 3:17 am

    The C300 irons look fantastic. I play Wilson V4 and they are really smooth. Hopefully the new ones are as smooth as the V4: s and forgiving as the C200. I also hope that Wilson will build C300 in left version as well and do not abandon us that are left handed.

    It would be nice if someone from Wilson gives us lefties a confirmation that they will give us C300 irons.

    Pelle G, Sweden

  2. Randy Kitts

    Nov 1, 2017 at 3:55 pm

    I recently bought a set of Wilson C200 irons new,at a great price and got back the distance I lost with my 3 year old Ping I 25 irons and they aren’t forged either. They sure are sweet to hit!!!! C300’s look great !

  3. Randy Kitts

    Nov 1, 2017 at 3:51 pm

    Wilson is very under-rated! Even if the face is forged and the rest cast,what difference does it make? You’re going to feel the forged face,not the cast body!!!!! As for the price on the made for TV driver,it’s no different than the other guys(TM,Callaway) After 6 months to a year the price drops rapidly.So what? You don’t have to buy it. Has nothing to do with the quality,it’s just todays marketing!

    • SK

      Nov 8, 2017 at 6:10 pm

      Ummm, no. To feel the forged face impact the feel ‘shock’ must go through the cast body and hosel to get to the shaft and into your hands, where you feel the ‘feel’.
      You can’t just mount a roll forged plate on what is essentially a cast steel club and then claim a soft buttery ‘forged’ feel. Sorry.

  4. Scott

    Nov 1, 2017 at 2:43 pm

    So, these are the RickyB Protos

  5. Rich

    Nov 1, 2017 at 12:43 pm

    These look super. I very interested in the irons .I have the V2 Tour irons and if these are better than those then I’m all in on getting a set..The Driver looks interesting and if it’s better than the Triton it has to be KingKong of golf!!!!!!!

  6. PCR

    Nov 1, 2017 at 11:38 am

    Topline of the iron looks nicer than I remember Wilson’s previous flex face irons. The driver looks nice and compact.

  7. Simms

    Nov 1, 2017 at 1:36 am

    How come you see most Wilson players using Taylormade Drivers? How about that great made for TV driver they sold, I see it for $149 everywhere and even $129 at one place…Wilson hasn’t ever recovered form when they tossed out John Daly after he won the British Open….

    • Thomas A

      Nov 1, 2017 at 10:35 am

      Same could be said for Mizuno, Bridgestone, PXG, and Srixon staffers. Wilson has recovered. Go test them out. I’m playing the FG Tour F5 irons and PMP wedges. They’re awesome.

  8. Ben Jones

    Oct 31, 2017 at 4:49 pm

    Wilson had the original flex face iron with the Reflex.

    • Ron Wolsted

      Oct 31, 2017 at 5:31 pm

      Yah, but this new model has a face-forged faceplate and the rest of the clubhead is cheap cast steel and for top dollar.

  9. RegW

    Oct 31, 2017 at 4:21 pm

    As for the driver, if it’s good enough for Ricky Barnes it should be even better for the average golfer who can’t break 90 in their score or club speed.

  10. RegW

    Oct 31, 2017 at 4:16 pm

    The emblem plaque in the cavity looks chintzy. The slots in the sole will fill with mud and ruin performance. Wonder if it’s 100% forged, or just another club with cast steel body welded to a forged faceplate. Next.

    • ...........

      Oct 31, 2017 at 9:05 pm

      I’m 99% positive the slots are filled with some type of polymer like TM irons.

      • Thomas A

        Nov 1, 2017 at 3:04 pm

        Judging from the photos I’m 100% sure the slots are filled with a polymer.

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Driver: TaylorMade SIM (10.5 @8 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Black 6X (45.5 inches, 59.25 lie, D4)

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3-wood: TaylorMade SIM Titanium (15 @13.5 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei CK Pro White 80 TX (43.25 inches, 58 lie, D4)

5-wood: TaylorMade SIM Max (19 @ 18.25 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei CK Pro White 90 TX

Irons: TaylorMade P7MB (3-PW)
Shaft: Project X Rifle 7.0 (6.5 in PW) 

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 (54-10SB, 60-08LB)
Shaft: Project X Rifle 6.5

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Putter: TaylorMade Spider X Copper (34.25, 2.5 loft, 70 lie)

Ball: 2019 TaylorMade TP5 (#22)

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Cord (58R 1+1, logo down)

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GolfWRX Spotted: 2021 Mizuno ST-Z and ST-X drivers on USGA Conforming List

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When it comes to drivers, Mizuno isn’t usually the company that comes to the top of mind for many golfers, but starting with the ST-190, and then the ST-200 series in 2020, they have quickly changed the perception of their metal woods thanks to wins on tour and more players choosing to put them in play—most recently Brandt Snedeker as a non-contracted player.

This morning, with the update of the USGA and R&A conforming equipment lists, we are getting a sneak peek at what Mizuno will have in store for 2021 with the release of the ST-Z and ST-X drivers.

What we know

Based on the information provided in the USGA submission by Mizuno, the ST-X will only be available in right-handed (10.5 and 12-degree lofts), while the ST-Z will be available in both right (9.5  and 10.5 degrees) and left-handed (9.5 degrees only).

ST-Z

Based on the images from the USGA list and our experience with the Mizuno product line, it appears that the ST-Z is the next step in the evolution of the standard ST200 with no adjustable CG but with a customizable weight in the back of the head.

We haven’t seen any images of a moveable weight driver in this new ST series, so it could be that the G-woods are getting phased out in favor of more internally biased weighting, but since those types of drivers often take a bit more time to get just right, it could be a matter of time before a “G” type driver hits the list.

As for technology, it has Mizuno’s standard wave to create flexibility behind the face, an adjustable hosel, and based on the images, more carbon fiber used around the head compared to previous generations, especially on the sole. I would also expect to hear a new face material or design story to complete the package and to boost MOI and ball speed.

ST-X

Based on the image from the USGA list and our experience, it appears that the ST-X is the next step in the evolution of the ST200-X driver, which is the lighter weight, more upright, and draw-biased driver from Mizuno. Don’t think draw bias always means it’s for higher handicaps either, because Mizuno staff player Chris Kirk got along very nicely with his out on the Korn Ferry and PGA Tours in 2020, including a win.

The tell-tale sign is the more heel biased weight in the back of the driver and what looks to be some sort of textured area to create “visible technology” towards the heel of the clubhead.

Beyond being draw-biased, when it comes to technology, it shares a lot of similarities to the ST-Z with Mizuno’s standing wave to create flexibility behind the face, an adjustable hosel, and more carbon fiber used around the head compared to previous generations, especially on the sole, and in the case of the ST-X, on the sole.

We don’t have any information on the release of these new drivers, but considering Mizuno didn’t adjust product release schedules in 2020, I would imagine it will be doing the same in 2021, and we can expect to hear more about these ST drivers either late 2020 or early into 2021.

To see what other golfers are saying about the newly spotted Mizuno ST-Z and ST-X drivers, check out the GolfWRX forums and join the discussion: GolfWRX – New Mizuno drivers spotted on USGA Conforming List

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5 hybrid vs 5 iron – GolfWRXers discuss

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In our forums, our members have been discussing the logic behind removing their 5 iron from their bag. WRXer ‘rwl’ asks whether any fellow members have experiences doing so, and WRXers have been sharing their thoughts and experiences in our forum.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • RobertL.: “I replaced my 5 iron with a 5 hybrid. I find it far easier to hit than my 5 iron. I also took my 6 iron out of the bag, so now my longest iron is a 7. I now carry a 3, 4, and 5 hybrid since they’re so much easier to hit than long irons. Makes a big difference for this senior golfer.”
  • JohnKHawk: “For last 2 seasons I’ve played with a Cobra F9 5 hybrid. It’s 24 degrees & gaps perfectly between Cobra OS 3-4 hybrid at 20.5 degrees & Apex19 6 iron which is 26.5 degrees. The 5 iron was just getting to be to undependable. Misses with the 5 hybrid were more playable than the 5 iron. Use what works best for your game.”
  • Abe21599: “Never a bad idea to have both a 5i and 5h options in the trunk, just gotta watch lofts.”
  • nitram: “I know it sounds so “old man” but if you want to make a change in your 5-iron slot and can’t seem to get along with a hybrid, give the 9-wood a try. You may be pleasantly surprised.”

Entire Thread: “5 hybrid vs 5 iron”

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