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6 Guidelines for Golf Course Style



Rules. Before we’re even old enough to talk, our lives begin to revolve around rules. Don’t pick your nose. Bedtime. Chores. No Cinemax after 10 p.m. Don’t put that in your mouth (a pretty good rule even when you’re a adult). The thing about rules is that most of them seem like they’re created to keep us from having any fun. That’s just how life is.

When we get older, we have to worry about more rules; and then we start playing golf. The only game known to man that requires a 581-page rule book (plus an appendix). We already have enough rules to follow. So when I sat down to write this, I decided on guidelines instead. Guidelines are much easier to swallow than rules. So, these are not strict “must do’s.” They’re a collection of insights that can help you not look like a fool out there.

In 1991, Eddie Vedder and Pearl Jam convinced every man in America that it was cool to not care how you looked, and since then, we’ve been treated to oversized flannels, baggy cargo pants and men just dressing like lazy slobs in general. Remember Tiger’s huge shirts and trousers that looked like parachute pants in the 90’s? Or the U.S. Ryder Cup Team’s shirts at Brookline that looked like Norman Rockwell had a few too many juleps and hurled on them? Ugh. Fortunately, there’s been a movement since around 2007. Men are starting to care again, and I love it.

For too long, we golfers had few viable options when it came to clothes for the course. Over the last few years, a wave of new companies has come to fix that. Linksoul, Travis Mathew, Devereux, and William Murray have become household golf names. But even the more established companies are stepping up their game, Puma and Ralph Lauren being two of the most notable. Some lesser known, but great lines are Q.E.D. and Rool Golf, as well as Black Clover. And you can never, EVER go wrong with anything from Arnold Palmer Apparel.

Disclaimer: I do not receive any monetary compensation from any of the companies that appear in this article. Just to make that clear.

Plenty of companies are offering modern options for you to look great, so there’s no reason to hit the course looking like you don’t belong… or you don’t respect where you are or the game you’re playing. Golf doesn’t need to be a stuffy dinner party, but it also shouldn’t look like a NASCAR tailgate party. Follow these guidelines, and you’ll never be accused of being ready for either.

1. Fit is (The) King

Arnie always knew how a shirt should fit.

Arnie knew how a shirt should fit.

This should be common sense, but a lot of guys overlook it. The finest shirt in the world will look like absolute garbage on you if it doesn’t fit correctly. Look at the tag, and look for the terms “Athletic Fit”, “Slim Fit,” or “Tailored Fit.” These cuts won’t be boxy or “blousey” like Tiger’s shirts from the 90s. And they’ll make you look slimmer.

Check the sleeves and make sure they don’t pass below your elbows. Just below the bicep is perfect. In shorts, length is paramount. No disrespect to Nike, but their shorts belong in a skate park. Most companies make their shorts too long. Check out Original Penguin for examples of how shorts should fit a grown man, ending just above the knee.

2. Forget about “Tech Fibers”

The biggest problem with the shiny, moisture-wicking performance fibers designed for athletic performance is exactly that. They aren’t designed for anything else. As soon as you step off the course, you look out of place. You can’t toss a cardigan on or a blazer and head to the bar for cocktails and trash talk wearing one; it’s just wrong. Choose something with natural fibers, something that’s actually woven. There’s nothing wrong with a little tech, but if it can’t go from the course to the lounge and then to dinner, it doesn’t need to be in your closet.

3. Respect your Feet


Canoos makes some of the coolest golf shoes around.

Those clunky, chunky, cheap golf shoes you found in the clearance section? That’s disrespect in the highest order. The first things someone notices about a man is his watch and his shoes. They don’t need to be FootJoy Icons (even though it’s a fantastic choice), but there are plenty of high quality options.

Adidas is killing it with old school sneaker styles. And please, PLEASE throw your sandal-spikes in the trash immediately. It’s worse than wearing Crocs if you aren’t a chef. If you really want to pull of the casual look with some character, check out Canoos. Its boat shoes and canvas sneakers are the coolest thing around right now.

4. Accessorize, But at Your Own Risk

Carrera Shades

Carrera Shades

The days of big, gawdy belt buckles are over. Get something nice and slim, or even something with a check or stripe on it. Even the white belt at this point is getting a little blah. Andre 3000 said that every man should have one thing in his wardrobe that “blings.” Not four, just one. That’s a fantastic guideline. Whether it’s your watch, your socks, your belt, or a bracelet, let one thing you wear pop from everything else.

As for sunglasses, unless you’re a track star, a Formula 1 driver, or Henrik Stenson, you don’t need the ultra techy wrap-around sport shades. Stick to something cool. Something smooth. A pair of Persols should do nicely, but there are plenty of cheaper options like something Steve McQueen would’ve worn on the course. Actually, just use Steve McQueen every time you ask, “Should I wear this?” You’ll be just fine.

5. White Pants (When to Stop)

I have a few pair of white trousers. You have to have a couple, because they get dirty in a hurry. I love wearing them, and I love that I see a ton of Tour guys wearing them. They’re incredibly sharp… but there really does come a point in the season when it’s not OK to wear white pants. Fall is for darker colors, earthy tones, and thicker fabrics. It’s rain-pant weather. Fall isn’t for the white pants you wore when playing in San Diego a few months ago. The Labor Day rule no longer applies, but it has been expanded thanks to GQ’s Style Guy, Glenn O’Brien (Miss you Glenn). As a general guideline, once the MLB Playoffs start, put the white pants away and let them sit until spring.

6. Okay, Maybe a Couple Rules


I can’t list these as merely guidelines. It’s 2017, and certain things just should not be a part of your wardrobe. And to be honest, they never should have been in the first place:

  • Jean Shorts: Burn them. Burn. Every. Single. Pair. Now.
  • Ditch the Pleats: Are you smuggling two pigeons in your pants? No, you’re not.
  • Long White or Black Socks (with shorts): Either go for something like Stance Socks or stick with no-shows or ankle socks. If you’re going to show some sock game, better make sure it’s on fleek.
  • Dress Code Disrespect: There are plenty of courses I play that allow T-shirts, and I love playing in a T-shirt and shorts. But if a course has a dress code, just please respect it. Don’t be the guy who shows up in jeans and tries to get away with it by claiming he didn’t know. Don’t be that guy.

Most of us have office jobs or jobs that require wearing some type of uniform. The golf course is one of the remaining outlets for us to express our individual style. So have fun with it and enjoy it. It’s OK to put some thought into what you wear to the course, guys. Don’t let Grunge win.

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Bryan is a former college golfer and aspiring Tour pro, and a very, very amateur writer who has a flair for over-indulgent, drippy commentary. He once came "this close" to getting in a fight with Nick Swisher outside a Cleveland strip club. At least once in his life he's wanted to be a tailor, chef, fireman, Indians 3rd baseman, astronaut, actor, lounge singer, hand model, DJ (Named DJ BPM) motorcycle racer... and Ryan Gosling. He's addicted to watches and shoes, and has three life rules; Do what makes you happy, find the love of a great woman, and wear anything Tom Ford makes. He's really just hoping in ten years when he joins the Champions Tour to be sponsored by a bourbon company and smoke cigars with Miguel Angel Jimenez. His best friends describe him as "Slightly nicer than a grilled cheese sandwich on white bread"...



  1. Cliff

    Nov 6, 2017 at 11:29 am

    Credibility of author was gone once he admitted he owns and wears white pants……

  2. alanp

    Nov 4, 2017 at 3:16 pm

    nice article man. doesnt surprise me it is lost on most of the old dudes. they probably dont listen to music on the course either.

  3. Jimmy Ray

    Nov 3, 2017 at 5:32 pm

    I don’t know why y’all are hating on this article. It brings up some good points that a lot of you should follow. I’ve got a fabric tip for ya. I’m in the apparel business, and I can tell you that most guys don’t understand the difference between “wicking” and “breathable”. They’re not the same. Far from it. Nike DriFit is wicking. As a general rule, it doesn’t breathe (pique’s excepted). That goes for every poly shirt you own (Climacool, etc.), plus the nylon ones (Columbia fishing shirts, etc.). Yes, looks great when sweating and dries quickly. Cool? Not so much. And learn to love the stank, cause you ain’t wearing it more than once before washing. So what’s the alternative? An open weave like a cotton pique, linen or cotton/poly pique. I’m watching cotton make a big comeback, with Linksoul leading the way. Short of an 85 degree sticky day, their 65/35 blend fabric rocks. Will never wear plastic off the course again.

  4. Scott

    Nov 3, 2017 at 3:05 pm

    Spend, spend, spend spend. I am an over 50, happily married, golfer. Who am I trying to impress? Sure, I try to look nice, but I am not going out clubbing after I play. When you tee off before 7:30 in the morning, why wouldn’t I want to a high tech golf shirt? All I am doing, before I get back to the rest of what I need to do for the rest of the day, is golfing. Then guess what, I am putting on lawn mowing clothes, or going to take the kids wherever clothes. Yes, some of my shirts and shorts look better than others, but oh well.

  5. steve mcqueen

    Nov 3, 2017 at 2:51 pm

    If you worried more about your game and less about you clothes you might not be an “aspiring tour pro” anymore.

  6. Ronald Ousterhaus

    Nov 2, 2017 at 1:54 pm

    Great… another elitist article on how to do golf right. I wonder if other sports and recreational activities worry so much about whether you can transition to dinner in a blazer or not (dinner jackets, really?!). I get that a lot of golfers belong to clubs etc., but that is not golf. That’s a lifestyle. Too many people get these confused.

  7. Rano

    Nov 2, 2017 at 8:36 am

    “There’s nothing wrong with a little tech, but if it can’t go from the course to the lounge and then to dinner”

    I don’t know why people insist on wearing the same thing they just wore on the course, out for dinner. Get changed, not only will you look better, you’ll smell better too…

    • Scott

      Nov 3, 2017 at 2:46 pm

      Yes, Rano. it is called a golf shirt for a reason.

  8. C.B.

    Nov 2, 2017 at 2:04 am

    1991? What on earth are you talking about? Grunge? Don’t you know the 60’s? That’s when “wear whatever the heck you want” started. Not in the 90’s! I guess you’re too young to know anything.
    The 90’s in sports clothing and clothing in general all across the globe was all about baggy and large – all you have to do is look at the football (soccer) kits in the 90’s and you’ll know exactly how we got out of the short-shorts of the 80’s and landed there.
    Complete shank to this article. Do be so kind as to never write anything again about fashion.

    • Bryan Metzler

      Nov 2, 2017 at 8:42 pm

      I might not be old enough to remember the 60’s, but I’ve done more than enough research on the evolution of clothing and style over the decades. You’re right about two things. The clothes in the 90’s were WAY too baggy, that’s exactly what I was saying. And, they did wear whatever they wanted in the 60’s. But where you’re mistaken is that the clothing in the 60’s was absolutely about looking good and putting on a show and who had the flashiest outfit or the biggest bell-bottoms. 60’s fashion was all about rebellion from the drab grey button down world of the 50’s, and they wanted everyone to notice them, especially across the pond. The grunge style was a rebellion in the opposite way, trying to look as boring as possible after the “Everyday is a Fashion Show” mentality of the 80’s. I may have forgotten (i.e., been too hungover) to do my homework in Poli-Sci in college, but I paid attention to the stuff that really makes the world go round.

      • C.B.

        Nov 3, 2017 at 3:34 am

        I was talking about the hippies, duh, in counterpoint to how you brought up Pearl Jam and grunge. So no, the 60’s was not all about looking good and clean like James Bond. Early 60’s as it bled on from the 50’s may be, but the mid to late 60’s was grimy and dirty, hippy culture and such bleeding into the 70’s with the tie-dye and whatnot, Woodstock? Not clean and dapper, is it? Easy Rider, the rebel biker imagery and styles? We’re not talking about Flannel Suits there, my friend! In the 90’s yeah we had flannel shirts with grunge and unkept hair, for sure! 80’s was not every day is a fashion show. What on earth are you blethering about? The first 4 years of the 80’s may have been strangely bright and post-punk and color mohawks and heavy metal and big hair bands and such, but after 85? Less so. There was a yearning for the 50’s and it went back to clean cut and straight jeans again, less color crazy – Back to the Future? But, yeah, I am not mistaken. You are. I don’t think you paid attention at all. You missed out on a lot.

  9. Hans

    Nov 1, 2017 at 6:22 pm

    if you live in a hot/humid climate, not wearing tech fabrics isnt really an option. go wet out a cotton shirt with sweat and it wont look good off the course anyway. perhaps for some climates the natural fibers look good off the course advice works, but it just is a big fail anywhere hot/humid.

    • Cameron

      Nov 1, 2017 at 11:06 pm

      Glad someone said it! 35* summer days mean high-tech breathable fabric is a necessity!

  10. James

    Nov 1, 2017 at 3:45 pm

    You lost me when you used “on fleek”

  11. Acemandrake

    Nov 1, 2017 at 3:00 pm

    Dress like an adult and you won’t need any other attire guidelines/rules.

  12. Huh?

    Nov 1, 2017 at 2:46 pm

    Unless you plan to be on “the beach” all day please don’t show up at the course wearing ankle socks. So inappropriate. . .

  13. DoubleMochaMan

    Nov 1, 2017 at 12:05 pm

    I never understand white pants in the off-season, playing in the mud. Or even khakis…

  14. Golfer

    Nov 1, 2017 at 12:04 pm

    Dress for success. (And to feel good) Look the part. You can always be buried in your jeans, t-shirt and ball cap. Don’t rush it.

  15. Andrew

    Nov 1, 2017 at 11:59 am

    Nobody rocks their clothing on and off the course like Adam Scott and Miguel Angel Jimenez. It’s not even a contest. Strive for that.

  16. Andrew

    Nov 1, 2017 at 11:55 am

    “Oooh. White pants! Who’s that?”
    – Trashy bimbo in heals at the Phoenix Open.

    Don’t be that guy, Bryan.

  17. Smith

    Nov 1, 2017 at 11:45 am

    I like everything about this article, but there’s one thing I always find is missing when golf course style discussions take place, and that’s the issue of ankle socks with pants.

    JT is one of the most stylish golfers out there, no doubt, but I hate that he’s always rocking white ankle socks with his outfits. This article takes issue with long socks with shorts – why not the other way around as well?

    • Jacob

      Nov 2, 2017 at 9:55 am

      Agreed. Ankle socks with shorts, crew socks with pants, and no-show socks with the garbage can.

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Don’t Leave Your Common Sense in Escrow Outside the Golf Course Parking Lot



Disclaimer: Much of what follows is going to come off as elitist, harsh and downright mean spirited — a pro looking down from his ivory tower at all the worthless hacks and judging them. It is the opposite. The intent is to show how foolish WE golfers are, chasing around a white ball with a crooked stick and suspending all of the common sense we use in our every day lives.

Much of what follows is not just the bane of average golfers, but also low handicappers, tour players and even a former long-drive champion during his quest for the PGA Tour… and now, the Champions Tour. In other words, if WE take ourselves a bit less seriously and use a bit more common sense, we are going to have more fun and actually hit better golf shots. We will shoot lower scores.

FYI: All of the examples of nutbaggery to come are things I have actually witnessed. They’re not exaggerated for the sake of laughs.

It’s winter time and most of you poor souls are not enjoying the 70-degree temperatures I am in Southern California right now (see, you all hate me already… and it’s going to get worse). That gives us all time to assess our approach to golf. I am not talking course management or better focus; I am talking how WE golfers approach our successes and failures, which for many is more important than the aforementioned issues or the quality of our technique.

Why is it that golf turns normal, intelligent, successful and SANE people into deviant, ignorant failures that exhibit all of the tell-tale signs of insanity? I also forgot profane, whiny, hostile, weak-minded, weak-willed and childish. Not to mention stupid. Why do we seem to leave our common sense and sanity in escrow in a cloud outside the golf course parking lot… only to have it magically return the moment our car leaves the property after imposing extreme mental anguish on ourselves that Gunnery Sergeant Hartman (don’t feel bad if you have to google this) would find extreme?

Smarter people than I have written books on this, but I think they missed a key factor. Clubs, balls, shoes, bags, gloves, tees, the grasses, especially the sand in the bunkers, the Gatorade they sell at the snack bar, hats, visors, over-logoed clothing, golf carts, etc., are all made with human kryptonite. Not enough to kill us, but just enough to make us act like children who didn’t get the latest fad toy for Christmas and react by throwing a hissy fit.

Bob Rotella has said golf is not a game of perfect, and although religious texts say man was made in God’s image, thinking we are perfect is blasphemous. We all play golf like we think there is an equivalent of a bowling 300. We expect to hit every drive 300 yards (the bowling perfect) with a three-yard draw… in the middle of the face… in the dead center of the fairway. All iron shots must be worked from the middle of the green toward the pin and compressed properly with shaft lean, ball-first contact and the perfect dollar-bill sized divot (and not too deep). Shots within 100 yards from any lie should be hit within gimme range, and all putts inside 20 feet must be holed.

We get these ideas from watching the best players in the world late on Sunday, where all of the above seem commonplace. We pay no attention to the fact that we are significantly worse than the guys who shot 76-76 and missed the cut. We still hold ourselves to that ridiculous standard.

  • Group 1: “Monte, you’re exaggerating. No one has those expectations.”
  • Group 2: ”Monte, I’m a type-A personality. I’m very competitive and hard on myself.”

To the first group, the following examples say different. And to the second group, I am one of you. It’s OK for me to want to shoot over 80 percent from the free throw line, but at 50 years old and 40 pounds over weight, what would you say to me if I said, “I’m type-A and competitive and I want to dunk like Lebron James!” Oh yeah, and I want to copy Michael Jordan’s dunking style, Steph Curry’s shooting stroke and Pistol Pete’s passing and dribbling style.” That seems ridiculous, but switch those names to all-time greats in golf and WE have all been guilty of those aspirations.

I don’t know how to answer 18-handicaps who ask me if they should switch to blades so they can work the ball better and in both directions. The blunt a-hole in me wants to tell them, “Dude, just learn to hit the ball on the face somewhere,” but that’s what they read in the golf magazines. You’re supposed to work the ball from the middle of the green toward the pin, like Nicklaus. Well, the ball doesn’t curve as much now as it did in Nicklaus’ prime and most tour players only work the ball one way unless the circumstances don’t allow it. “And you’re not Jack Nicklaus.” Some joke about Jesus and Moses playing golf has that punch line.

Wouldn’t it be easier to get as proficient as possible at one shot when you have limited practice time, versus being less than mediocre on several different shots? This also applies to hitting shots around the greens 27 different ways, but don’t get me started…just buy my short game video. Hyperbole and shameless plug aside, this is a huge mistake average golfers make. They never settle on one way of doing things.

The day the first white TaylorMade adjustable driver was released, I played 9 holes behind a very nice elderly couple. He went to Harvard and she went to Stanford. He gets on the first tee and hits a big push. He walks to the cart, grabs his wrench and closes the club face. She tops her tee shot, gets the wrench and adds some loft. Out of morbid curiosity, I stayed behind them the entire front 9 and watched them adjust their clubs for every mishit shot. It took over 3 hours for a two-some. These are extremely nice, smart and successful people and look what golf did to them. Anyone calling this a rules violation, have a cocktail; you’re talking yourself even more seriously than they were. Old married couple out fooling around, big deal if they broke a rule. No tournament, not playing for money, they’re having fun. They had gimmies, mulligans and winter rules. Good for them.

This is an extreme example of a huge mistake that nearly 100 percent of golfers make; they believe the need for an adjustment after every bad shot… or worse, after every non-perfect shot. How many of you have done this both on the range and on the course?

”(Expletive), pushed that one, need to close the face. (Expletive), hit that one thin, need to hit down more on this one. (Expletive), hooked that one, need to hold off the release.”

I’ll ask people why they do this and the answer is often, “I’m trying to build a repeatable swing.”

Nice. Building repeatable swing by making 40 different swings during a range session or round of golf. That is insane and stupid, but WE have all done it. The lesson learned here is to just try and do better on the next one. You don’t want to make adjustments until you have the same miss several times in a row. As a secondary issue, what are the odds that you do all of the following?

  1.  Diagnose the exact swing fault that caused the bad shot
  2.  Come up with the proper fix
  3.  Implement that fix correctly in the middle of a round of golf with OB, two lakes, eight bunkers and three elephants buried in the green staring you in the face.

Another factor in this same vein, and again, WE have all been guilty of this: “I just had my worst round in three weeks. What I was doing to shoot my career low three times in row isn’t working any more. Where is my Golf Digest? I need a new tip.”

Don’t lie… everyone reading this article has done that. EVERYONE! Improvement in golf is as far from linear as is mathematically possible. I have never heard a golfer chalk a high score up to a “bad day.” It’s always a technique problem, so there is a visceral need to try something different. “It’s not working anymore. I think I need to do the Dustin Johnson left wrist, the Sergio pull-down lag, the Justin Thomas downswing hip turn, the Brooks Koepka restricted-backswing hip turn and the Jordan Spieth and Jamie Sadllowski bent left elbow… with a little Tiger Woods 2000 left-knee snap when I need some extra power.” OK, maybe it’s a small bit of exaggeration that someone would try all of these, but I have heard multiple people regale of putting 2-3 of those moves in after a bad round that didn’t mesh with their downtrending index.

An 8-handicap comes to me for his first lesson. He had shot in the 70’s four of his last five rounds and shot a career best in the last of the five. All of the sudden, those friendly slight mishits that rhyme with the place where we keep our money show up. First a few here and there and then literally every shot. He shows up and shanks 10 wedges in a row and is literally ready to cry. I said, “Go home, take this week off and come back… and what’s your favorite beer?”

He comes back the next week, pulls a club and goes to hit one. I tell him to have a seat. I hand him a beer and we talk football for 15 minutes. Then I pull out my iPad and show him exactly why he is hitting shanks. I tell him one setup issue and one intent change and ask him to go hit one. It was slightly on the heel, but not a shank and very thin. I said to do both changes a bit more. The second one — perfect divot, small draw and on target. I walk over, put my hand up for a high five and say, “Awesome job! Great shot!”

He leaves me hanging and says, ”Yeah, but I hit it in the toe.”

Don’t judge him. Every day I have people with 50-yard slices toned down to 15-20 yards saying the ball is still slicing. These are people who won’t accept a fade, but slam their club when it over draws 15 feet left of the target… and so on. I can’t judge or be angry; I used to be these guys, too. During a one-hour lesson, I often hear people get frustrated with themselves for thin and fat, left and right, heel and toe. Apparently, anything not hunting flags or hit out of a dime-sized area is an epic fail. I also get emails the next day saying the fault and miss is still there.


My big miss has always been a big block, often in the heel. Instead, I now often hit a pull in the left fairway bunker out of the toe. I celebrate like I’m Kool & the Gang and it’s 1999… and I get strange looks from everyone. I can manage a 10-15 yard low, slightly drawn pull. I cannot not manage a 40-50 yard in the atmosphere block… that cuts.

So, now that I have described all of US as pathetic, let’s see what we can do.

  1. Be hard on yourself, be competitive and set lofty goals all you want… but you need to accept at least a one-side miss. If you hate hitting thin, weak fades, you need to allow yourself a slightly heavy over draw. Not allowing yourself any miss will make you miss every shot.
  2. Generally, the better the player, the larger the pool of results that are used to judge success. Pros judge themselves over months and years. High-handicappers judge themselves on their previous shot. Do you think pros make a swing change after 10 good shots and one minor miss? We all seem to think that course of action is astute. Bad shot, must have done something wrong… HULK MUST FIX!
  3. Don’t judge your shots on a pass/fail grade. Grade yourself A-F. Are you going to feel better after 10 A’s, 25 B’s, 15 C’s, 4 D’s and 1 F… or 10 passes and 40 fails? If every non-perfect shot is seen as a failure, your subconscious will do something different in order to please you. Again, 40 different swings.
  4. Improving your swing and scores is a lot like losing weight. No one expects to make changes in a diet and exercise routine and lose 20 pounds in one day, yet golfers expect a complete overhaul in a small bucket. Give yourself realistic time frames for improvement. “I’m a 12. By the end of next year, I want to be an 8.”  That’s your goal, not whether or not your last range session was the worst in a month. It’s a bad day; that is allowed. Major champions miss cuts and all of them not named Tiger Woods don’t change their swings. They try and do better next week… and they nearly always do.
  5. DO NOT measure yourself either on the mechanics of your swing or your scoring results according to some arbitrary standard of perfection… and especially not against tour players. Measure yourself against yourself. Think Ty Webb. Is your swing better than it was 6 months ago? Do you hit it better than 6 months ago? Are you scoring better than 6 months ago? If you can say yes to at least two of those questions, your swing looking like Adam Scott is less relevant than the color of golf tee you use.

That is a winning formula, and just like bad habits in your swing, you can’t wake up one morning and tell yourself you’re no longer into self flagellation. It takes effort and practice to improve your approach and get out of your own way… but more importantly, have some fun.

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15 hot takes from Greg Norman on our 19th Hole podcast



Our Michael Williams spoke with the Great White Shark himself, Greg Norman, for GolfWRX’s 19th Hole podcast. Not surprisingly, the two-time major champion had no shortage of hot takes.

While you’ll want to check out the full ‘cast, here are 15 takes of varying degrees of hotness, from Norman’s feelings about bifurcation to whether he’d pose for ESPN’s Body Issue.

1) He wants bifurcation immediately, rolling back technology for the pros, rolling it forward for amateurs

“I would instigate a bifurcation of the rules. I would roll back the golf ball regulations to pre-1996. I would roll back the technology that’s in the golf equipment for the professionals. And I would open up the technology and give it to the masses because the pros who developed the maximum club head speed of 118, 120 are the ones who maximize what technology is in that piece of equipment. So the person who’s under 100 miles an hour does not hit the ball an extra 30, 35 yards at all. They may pick up a few yards but they don’t get the full benefit of that technology…I would definitely do that because I think we’ve gotta make the game more fun for the masses. “

2) He has no relationship with Tiger Woods and doesn’t plan to watch him play golf

“And this might sound kind of strange. What I’ll say is … I really, in all honesty, I really don’t care what Tiger does with golf. I think Tiger is, golf probably needs him to some degree but golf doesn’t need him, if you know what I mean, because there’s so many other incredibly talented great young players out there, probably a dozen of them, maybe even more, that are equal, if not way better than Tiger, and they can carry the baton of being the number one player in the world. So, I get a little bit perplexed about and disappointed about how some of these guys get pushed into the background by the attention Tiger gets. I hope he does well. If he doesn’t do well, it doesn’t bother me. If he does do well, it doesn’t bother me.”

3) He plays almost no golf these days

“I really don’t play a lot of golf. I played with my son in the father-son at the end of last year, had a blast with him. Played a little bit of golf preparing for that. But since then I have not touched a golf club.”

4) He doesn’t enjoy going to the range anymore

“To be honest with you I’m sick and tired of being on the driving range hitting thousands and thousands of golf balls. That bores me to death now. My body doesn’t like it to tell you the truth. Since I’ve stopped playing golf I wake up without any aches and pains and I can go to the gym on a regular basis without aches and pains. So my lifestyle is totally different now. My expectations, equally, is totally different.”

5) It took him a long time to get used to recreational golf

“But I’ve been in this mode now for quite a few years now so the first couple of years, yes. My body was not giving me what my brain was expecting. So you do have to make those mental adjustments. Look, there’s no difference than when you hit 40, you’re a good player or not a good player. Things start to perform differently. Your proprioception is different. Your body is different. I don’t care how good you are and how great physical shape you are. Your body after just pure wear and tear, it eventually does tend to break down a little bit. And when you’re under the heat of the battle and under the gun, when you have to execute the most precise shot, your body sometimes doesn’t deliver what you want.”

6) He’s a big Tom Brady fan

“I’m a big fan, big admirer of his. He gets out of it what he puts into it obviously…But he’s also a role model and a stimulator for his teammates. No question, when you go to play Brady and the Patriots, you’d better bring your A game because he’s already got his A game ready to go.”

7) He believes we’ll see 50-plus-year-old winners on Tour

“I said this categorically when Tom Watson nearly won at Turnberry in his 50s, when I nearly won at Royal Birkdale in my 50s….if you keep yourself physically in good shape, flexibility in good shape, as well as your swing playing, and your swing. Yeah, maybe the yips come in maybe they don’t, that depends on the individual, right? But at the end of the day, my simple answer is yes. I do believe that’s going to happen.”

8) The Shark logo has been vital to his post-golf success

“But I realized very early on in life too that every athlete, male or female, no matter what sports you play you’re a finite entity. You have a finite period of time to maximize your best performance for X number of years. And with golf, if you look at it historically, it’s almost like a 15 year cycle. I had my 15 year run. Every other player has really has had a 15 year run, plus or minus a few years.”

“So you know you have that definitive piece of time you got to work with and then what you do after that is understanding what you did in that time period. And then how do you take that and parlay it? I was lucky because I had a very recognizable logo. It wasn’t initials. It wasn’t anything like that. It was just a Great Shark logo. And that developed a lot of traction. So I learned marketing and branding very, very quickly and how advantageous it could be as you look into the future about building your businesses.”

9) He’s tried to turn on-course disappointments into positives

“We all … well I shouldn’t say we all. I should say the top players, the top sports men and women work to win. Right? And when we do win that’s what we expected ourselves to do because we push ourselves to that limit. But you look at all the great golfers of the past and especially Jack Nicklaus, it’s how you react to a loss is more important than how you react to a victory. And so, I learned that very, very early on. And I can’t control other people’s destiny. I can’t control what other people do on the golf course. So I can only do what I do. When I screw up, I use that as a very strong study point in understanding my weakness to make sure that I make a weakness a strength.”

10) Jordan Spieth is best suited to be the top player in the world

“I think that Jordan is probably the most balanced, with best equilibrium in the game. He’s probably, from what I’m seeing, completely in touch with the responsibilities of what the game of golf and the success in the game of golf is.”

11) His golf design is built on two pillars

“Two things: Begin with the end in mind and the least disturbance approach. I think we, the industry of golf course design industry, really did the game of golf a major disservice in the 80s and 90s when everybody was leveraged to the hilt, thought they had unlimited capital, and thought they could just go build these big golf courses with big amounts of money invested in with magnificent giant club houses which weren’t necessary. So, we were actually doing a total disservice to the industry because it was not sustainable.”

12) He’s still not happy about having essentially invented the WGC events and not getting credit

“I’ll always be a little bit salty about that because there’s a saying that I keep telling everybody, “slay the dreamer.” I came up with a pretty interesting concept where the players would be the part owners of their own tour or their own destiny and rewarded the riches if they performed on the highest level. And quite honestly, Michael, actually a friend of mine sent me an article, it was a column written, “Shark and Fox Plan to Take a Bite out of the PGA”. And this is written in 11/17/94 and I literally just got it last night. And I’m reading through this article and I’m going, “Oh my gosh, oh my gosh, I was ahead of my time!” I really was ahead of my time.

So, it was very, very kind of like a reflective moment for me. I read it again this morning with a cup of coffee and I did sit back and, I’ll be brutally honest with you and your listeners, and did sit back and I did get a little bit angry because of the way I was portrayed, the way I was positioned.”

13) He was muzzled by the producer at Fox

“I’m not going to dig deep into this, I think there was just a disconnect between the producer and myself. I got on really well with the director and everybody else behind the scenes, some of my thought processes about what I wanted to talk about situations during the day, and it just didn’t pan out. And things that I wanted to say, somebody would be yelling in my ear, “Don’t say it, don’t say it!” So it became a very much a controlled environment where I really didn’t feel that comfortable.”

14) Preparation wasn’t the problem during his U.S. Open broadcast

“I was totally prepared so wherever this misleading information comes saying I wasn’t prepared, I still have copious notes and folders about my preparation with the golf course, with the players, with the set-up, with conditioning. I was totally prepared. So that’s an assumption that’s out there that is not true. So there’s a situation where you can please some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time.

15) He would do ESPN’s Body Issue

“Of course I’d do it. I think I like being fit. I think on my Instagram account I probably slipped a few images out there that created a bit of a stir…And I enjoy having myself feel good. And that’s not an egotistical thing, it’s just none of my, most of my life I’ve been very healthy fit guy and if somebody like ESPN wants to recognize that, yeah of course I would consider doing it.”

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