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Miura Launches MG Collection Irons: CB-2008, CB-1008 and MB-5005

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Miura Golf has launched three new iron models in North America: its CB-2008, the CB-1008 and the MB-5005.

The three irons are part of Miura’s MG, or “Miura-Giken” Collection, which like the company’s recently announced Hayate drivers and fairway woods were previously only available in Asia. The new launch unifies the Miura product line internationally, a key aspect of the company’s recent re-branding efforts. It also sets the stage for a worldwide launch of entirely new Miura product, which is expected in 2018.

In North America, Miura is known primarily for its one-piece forged irons, specifically its blade and blade-like models that target better players. The expansion of the MG Collection gives North American golfers access to two additional better-player irons, as well a mid-sized, multi-material forged iron that can offer golfers additional distance and forgiveness. Learn more about each of the irons below.

Miura MG Collection: CB-2008

The CB-2008 irons have the widest sole of the company’s MG Collection irons (its 20-millimeters wide on the 7 iron), as well as a multi-material construction. Together, the design offers golfers more distance, more forgiveness and more confidence in their game. Compared to Miura’s Passing Point Neo Genesis PP-9005 irons, the CB-2008 irons will offer golfers a more compact size and appearance, as well as a softer feel.

The CB-2008 long irons (5-8) start as a single billet of carbon steel, which is forged into a shape that becomes the body of the club heads. A 4-millimeter forged club face is then welded to the front of the irons to boost performance (see the photos in the gallery above). The short irons (9, PW) use a one-piece, forged construction.

“The CB 2008 epitomizes how advancements in technology can be delivered to golfers of all skill levels,” says Bill Holowaty, COO of Miura Golf. “The midsize clubhead combines a soft carbon forged face and neck with a composite, pocket cavity back. This design allows for a wider sole, lower center of gravity, larger sweet spot and more forgiveness.”

The CB-2008 irons are available in 5-PW and sell for $339 per club.

Miura MG Collection: CB-1008

Like the CB-2008 irons, the CB-1008 irons offer golfers a wide sole (it’s 19 millimeters in the 7 iron). The difference is that unlike the hollow-cavity CB-2008 irons, CB-1008 irons use a one-piece, forged construction that positions mass directly behind the sweet spot of the irons.

The one-piece design of the CB-2008 irons is intended to mimic the feel of the company’s blade irons, while delivering the higher flight and additional forgiveness of Miura’s more forgiving models like the CB-2008 and PP-9005.

The CB-2008 irons are available in 3-PW and sell for $279 per iron.

Miura MG Collection: MB-5005

Miura’s MG Collection MB-5005 irons look and feel much like the company’s traditional blade irons, the company says, but a unique cavity-back structure allows the irons to offer more forgiveness.

Compared to its traditional blade irons, the cuts and channels on the back of the MB-5005 irons trim approximately 15 grams of weight from design, Miura says. The discretionary mass allowed the company to increase the size as the irons, as well as lower the center of gravity, both of which served to expand the sweet spot of the clubs.

The MB-5005 irons are available in 3-PW and sell for $329 per iron.

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  1. rex235

    Jun 27, 2017 at 11:33 am

    Pretty much like most new Miura CNC Milled irons… RH Only.

  2. The dude

    Jun 21, 2017 at 12:19 pm

    Those Pics tell me nothing!!…why no set up pics???….that’s all most good players care about…(how they appear when you set them down). And how are they “softer”???

    • Skip

      Jun 21, 2017 at 5:30 pm

      Check out mcmahongolf on Instagram. They’ve got the 5005 and 1008 from all angles. I found the s25c used in these heads to be softer than the steel used in the North American lines.

  3. Matt

    Jun 21, 2017 at 3:41 am

    Looking a bit like Srixon’s Z iron range.

  4. Max

    Jun 21, 2017 at 12:43 am

    Why wouldn’t I just buy the Japanese version from Tour Spec for over half off these listed prices?

  5. Guia

    Jun 20, 2017 at 7:08 pm

    They look nice, cost too much.

  6. chinchbugs

    Jun 20, 2017 at 6:08 pm

    When did irons start costing more than woods? Oh yeah, 2017. That’s when.

  7. Ude

    Jun 20, 2017 at 1:59 pm

    wicked >>> tora tora tora

  8. IowaHacker

    Jun 20, 2017 at 1:19 pm

    They could do without the ugly MG logo on there and just kept the script-ish Miura. This new logo looks just like the cheap MG Golf products, not something as high quality like these are intended.

    • Was

      Jun 21, 2017 at 2:35 am

      But that logo has been there for years though lol

  9. Matt

    Jun 20, 2017 at 12:39 pm

    I’m sorry, thats some fugly equipment.

    • Brian

      Jun 20, 2017 at 4:09 pm

      What do you play?

      • Matt

        Jun 20, 2017 at 10:37 pm

        MP-4 irons. 2016 M2 driver. Srixon F45 3 wood. UDI 3 iron. Exotics DG Proto putter. Vokey wedges.

      • Matt

        Jun 20, 2017 at 10:47 pm

        In fairness I didn’t click through the photos. Irons aren’t quite as bad as I initially thought. That logo is rough though. I’m not a looks guy anyway, was really just a random comment, if it plays well (and the steel does look pure) I’d game it in a second.

  10. ComeyforPresident

    Jun 20, 2017 at 11:08 am

    Any differences in the manufacturing process between these clubs and those from the JDM?

    • Was

      Jun 20, 2017 at 12:54 pm

      They’re the same clubs. New licensing agreement has made it possible for them to distribute and sell them in the US

      • Bill

        Jul 14, 2017 at 5:12 pm

        They could always distribute in the US but out of BC Canada.

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WRX Spotted: New TaylorMade P790 UDI

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It’s Open Championship week and that means course conditions are the talk of the town. Firm, fast, and windy conditions are expected on the links of Portrush, so we will be seeing a lot of players using driving irons that they might not otherwise play with week to week on the PGA Tour.

Not only are driving irons a hot item for players, but for OEMs launching new and prototype versions including TaylorMade, which has a new P790 UDI in some bags including Mr. Tiger Woods (credit to Rob Brooks on Instagram for the spot).

Like with many clubs just being seeded to tour, we don’t have official comment from the team at TaylorMade…but, like many times before, we have a couple of ideas based off the cosmetics of what might be in store if and when this thing comes to retail.

Some history: It’s been a while since TaylorMade introduced a new UDI (Ultimate Driving Iron) to its lineup.  There was the GAPR Low, which was very UDI “like” but the UDI as a whole never had an adjustable hosel. (There were Tour Issue versions of the GAPR Lo that had a fixed hosel and no adjustability)

The original (2017) P790 UDI

The “just-spotted 2020 (?)” version

The most recent UDI was the original P-790, but this new version has some distinct differences

  • Thinner sole. Based off the pictures, this new P-790 UDI has a thinner sole with more camber to help improve turf interaction. More camber and well-utilized bounce make any club more playable in varying conditions.
  • Shorter blade length. There is no such thing as computer screen calipers but from what we can tell when comparing side by side the new version is shorter. A shorter blade length means a CG closer to the hosel and more workability.
  • Higher toe. Just like the shorter blade length, a higher toe is often more appealing to more players (better players are generally the target for these types of clubs) and what that also “potentially” does is raise the CG. A higher CG will produce lower launching shots BUT with more spin (workability). To counter act the potential extra spin loft adjustments can be made pretty easily, since loft is one of the biggest factors in creating spin.

The one thing that is harder to compared is whats going on inside of this UDI (obviously). There is a screw in the toe, so it can be assumed that there is some sort of foam or material that helps support the face and improve the acoustics of this face thin-faced iron.

Just like we wait for the first group off early Thursday morning at Portrush, we’re just going to have to wait to see what’s really going on this new UDI too.

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Forum Thread of the Day: “Tiger Woods with a new Scotty Cameron at The Open”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from No Gimmes who was quick to spot Tiger Woods preparing for this week’s Open Championship with a new Scotty putter. Woods has also been seen warming up for this week’s event at Royal Portrush with his old faithful on the greens, but our members have been discussing the thinking behind the 15-time-major champion’s potential change, as well as the putter itself.

*Photos from Golf Central’s ‘Live From The Open’ coverage

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • TheMoneyShot: “I’m really surprised he is making the switch. Let’s see if it’s in the bag come Thursday.”
  • Hedgehog: “That topline and the alignment aid and all the smooth lines, gorgeous!”
  • MuniPukeLife: “Makes sense as his trusty NP2 is super light by today’s putter standards.”

Entire Thread: “Tiger Woods with a new Scotty Cameron at The Open”

 

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Mizuno T20 wedges: Let’s get spinning

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Spin.

We’re always trying to reduce it with our driver and increase it with our wedges for maximum control, but with the rules of golf being so strict, how do actually achieve a performance gain? Simple engineering…

This is the Mizuno T20 wedge.

It’s been a few years since we have seen a T (teardrop) wedge from our friends at Mizuno, and there is good reason.

Let’ get into a quick history lesson: before the JPX900 series was introduced, Mizuno had quietly been realigning the product cycles of the MP and JPX lines. You might remember back a few years ago now before the MP18s hit the scene that there was a bit of a lull in the MP line—so much, in fact, there was even a thread here on GolfWRX asking “Is Mizuno not making MP irons anymore?”

It was a naturally curious question to a company that always had very standardized release cycles, but it was a long-term play that has paid off tremendously. We now get “T” wedges with MP irons (MP20s to be exact), and we should (from everything I know) continue to see “S” Silhouette (more rounded profile) wedges with future JPX lines.

Before we get to what’s new, how about we first talk about what will be staying the same

  • Grain Flow Forged HD – like all new Mizuno irons, the T20s are made using the same forging process to increase the density of the material in the clubhead for an improved solid feel.
  • Boron – this little element when added to the 1025e mild carbon steel used in the wedges (we’re talking trace amounts equating to 3ppm – parts per million) increases the strength of the material by 30 percent—how crazy is that for chemistry? This improves groove life and has ZERO effect on club feel.
  • Variable Width & Depth Quad Cut Grooves – Like previous T and S wedges, the T20s will have quad cut grooves that will vary in shape based on the loft of the club. Lower lofted wedges are more narrow and deeper, while higher lofted wedges are wider and more shallow since impact happens at lower speeds this increases spin consistency.
  • Same beautiful Teardrop profile from address

So what’s new?

Flow. Just like the MP20s, engineers are bringing more a more extreme CG (center of gravity) shifting philosophy, or as Mizuno explains it, increased vertical moment of inertia to the wedges. As much as you (well maybe not “you,” depending on who you are) might think “a wedge is just a wedge” and loft is the only deciding factor for spin, you couldn’t be further from the truth. By relocating the CG throughout the set and changing the sweet spot height, engineers can further alter the launch and spin precisely for each loft.

It’s about gear effect—the higher you hit above the CG the less spin the ball with have, and the closer to or lower you make impact compared to the CG the more spin you will create. Either way these are wedges, so a 50 degree, for example, is still going to spin, but it is now more controllable (think less likely to ballon or get too high on full shots). On the other side of the equation, a 60-degree wedge will allow for even MORE trajectory and spin control for the low flying quick checkers with zip.

Now about that spin.

By the Rules of Golf, you can’t make grooves sharper, you can’t increase their volume, and you can only have so much surface roughness (sorry but that old Spin Doctor wedge is HIGHLY NON-conforming). So what do you do? You change the way you think about that surface roughness…

Hydroflow Micro Grooves

Instead of traditional laser etching parallel to the grooves, Mizuno engineers took a concept from the high-performance tire world and went perpendicular to the grooves and parallel to the direction the ball moves up the face to channel moisture away. This directional tread has proven to increase spin on shots especially in conditions with moisture up to 1,200 RPM (on a 60-yard shot), that’s a very tangible number. It’s not just about spin either: the more the friction that can be created also means more control on launch angle and less of a “floating” ball flight. That’s how those low zippers keep zippin’!

Don’t think for a second that Mizuno just changed the etching and was done with it. The process went through multiple iterations to figure out how they could improve its life (beyond the boron) and the solution was to etch before the chroming process to elongate the lifespan. The other groovy take for the T20s is the actual reconfiguration of the grooves. To get the bottom groove closer to the leading edge without having it disorient the overall look of the club and making it appear that the heel or toe is thinner on one side. The lowest groove has been shortened and centered.

All of these refinements; CG, micro-grooves, and reconfigured scoring lines add up to one thing: more control and improved shotmaking with your wedges.

Finishes, specs, and grinds

The wishes of many have been answered when it comes to the T20s, there will be a RAW finish (happy dance time) along with traditional chrome and the signature blue ion. Leftys will only be able to get chrome, but all the same options will be available as far as lofts and grinds.

Coming in lofts from 46-60 degrees, the grind options progress depending on the loft and bounce. Going from full-soled in the lower lofts to more aggressive back edge, and heel-toe relief in the 60 degree. These sole shapes came directly from Mizuno’s craftsman that worked with players and prototypes to determine exactly how the bounce and sole shapes should work in harmony.

All of this has come together to create Mizuno’s finest wedge to date.

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