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FTF: Who is the 3rd-greatest golfer of all time?

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The GolfWRX Forums exist so golfers have access to the latest equipment releases, hottest discussions, real equipment reviews, best instruction, new technologies and everything golf you can imagine. So if you love golf, the GolfWRX forums are your sanctuary.

In the From the Forums weekly feature, we bring you the hottest, most buzz-worthy topics from our forums for your convenience. I’ll be your trusty tour guide to navigate the latest buzz. Here’s a peek behind the curtain into golf’s sanctuary.

Lead tape magic…or not?

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WRXer L3fty writes about his stripeshow peformance at the range after putting lead tape on his irons. Placebo effect, magic of the small sample size, or has he found something that works, he wonders. See if WRXers have had similar experiences and what they have to say. Check out the thread.

Favorite random golf accessory?

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Here’s a good thread: Ask some of the most enthusiastic equipment enthusiasts what their favorite non-golf ball, non-club, non-clothing piece of golf gear is, and why, as pinestreetgolf does in this thread. From stinky towels to training aids, to a beat up scorecard holder, the replies have it all. Check out the thread.

Third-best golfer ever?

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Outside of the Tiger vs. Jack debate, there’s another very interesting question to ask in an effort to power rank the finest players the game has seen. But as we virtually all agree that some combination of Woods-Nicklaus top the list, it begs the question: Who is No. 3? Snead? Hogan? Palmer? Jones? See the debate in this thread.

Results don’t match the quality of the swing

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Best should probably read “best” in this thread, but it’s an interesting question. We know the Jim Furyk’s of the world who have gotten great results with “bad” golf swings. But who fits the bill at the opposite end of the spectrum: Beautiful swings that haven’t gotten the job done in a big way? See the thread.

The triumphant return of The Hammer!

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The greatest product in golf history is back. Jack Hamm unveiled the 2017 edition of The Hammer, the driver that (as far as we know) has never seen a sub-400-yard drive since product launch. Click through for the latest Hammer infomercial and see what praise WRXers are heaping on this non-conforming marvel of R&D. See the thread.

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  1. Burt Baine

    May 31, 2017 at 2:34 pm

    I’m going with Snead and Hogan in a tie.

  2. Progolfer

    May 30, 2017 at 6:37 pm

    #1– Bobby Jones
    #2– Tiger Woods
    #3– Jack Nicklaus

  3. CT

    May 26, 2017 at 3:00 pm

    Moe Norman

    He made one of the greatest golf instruction videos ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oODSnTNXg1g

    • No

      May 26, 2017 at 10:08 pm

      Actually, subsequent analysis of Moe’s swing has shown that he wasn’t doing what he thought he was doing, so not, I will not second what Moe said.

    • Uh

      May 27, 2017 at 11:13 am

      So, that means you are way too old to be on here commenting on things. Why don’t you have some respect for yourself and stop with this nonsense ranting

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Forum Thread of the Day: “How I learned to stop worrying and love single length irons”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from pinestreetgolf who shared his experience using single length irons. In pinestreetgolf’s excellent and thorough write-up, he explains just how single length irons worked for him, despite his previous suspects, and why he feels others should considering making the move to single length clubs in the future.

“First, I made a mistake I am constantly on others for making. I thought all-or-none. The whole “same stance, same swing, same plane” thing isn’t true. However, I decided that since one of them wasn’t true (if the lie changes, it all changes), then none of it was true. That was dumb. It’s about 80% true, and that is a lot. What I mean by that is that I struggle with ball position. Now I don’t. The club always feels the same, so you always just sort of start lining up the same all the time. It’s hard to describe, exactly. When my ball position creeps back, I start to get stuck. Now it doesn’t creep back. I grab the club, and the address position feels natural and easy.

Second, I made the mistake of thinking yardage gaps have to be consistent to be useful. They don’t. As my SL set tends towards its extremes, my gaps get larger. My 5 iron isn’t 10 yards behind my 6. But I know how far it is behind my six and I know I hit the center more often, so effectively, because I get much better contact, my gap is much more consistent even though it is smaller.

Third, I learned to hit a hybrid. I play them through 4 iron. I cannot get a SL 4 iron off the ground consistently, but my gaggle of G30 hybrids from the 2nd swing is fantastic.

Fourth, I kept my PM Grind for in and around the green complex.
Fifth, it makes practice MUCH more effective. Swap them out all the time. Hit a 6, hit a SW, hit a 9, hit a 7, rapid fire.

It took me a long time to get used to them, but the two massive pros are the setup/stance and practice. You set up the same way almost instinctively, and that is HUGE. I also feel like I get a ton more out of practice AND that my practice feels like the course a lot more.

There are some drawbacks. I found three specialty shots I had to add clubs at top and bottom to pull off:
1. A short-game only club, like a PM Grind.
2. Where the last SL doesn’t get airborne anymore. I used 3 hybrids below it. They hit middles of greens.
3. Ground balls – I can’t punch out nearly as well with a SL 5 as a CB 3 or 4. I’ve learned to use my driver on this shot.

If you are thinking about something new for irons and have some cash, I would recommend trying SL. It grew on me. I was wrong about it. The key is to stick with it. Just throw them in the bag for two months and when practicing switch up irons constantly – do NOT just bang one iron with an SL set.

Finally, either get fit or play with lie angle a lot. Mine are +3 up, and I’m only 6′. Feel great, dead even dirt line. But since they are all the same, they better be right. Just my thoughts on SL. They’ll be in my bag for the May – Sept. tournaments. I would highly recommend 1. ignoring my earlier posts on them and 2. trying them.”

Here are what a few of our members have said in response to pinestreetgolf’s post, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • snowman9000: “Some people get hung up on thinking that they aren’t supposed to have a shorter wedge. I kept one, no big deal. As to hybrids, that’s no biggie either. I mean, it’d be great if we could get good results with 13 clubs the same length, but that’s just not possible. Having SL irons is a huge simplification of the game, regardless of the rest of the bag.”
  • ChrisLC40: “OP I love how you summed everything up. I made the switch a little over two years ago and have made huge improvements. At times I think about going back to variable length irons because of the offerings, but OL is so repeatable, and I feel I may go backwards and need to relearn some things.”
  • LONGBALL777: “Welcome to the Dark Side!”

Entire Thread: “How I learned to stop worrying and love single length irons”

 

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Forum Thread of the Day: “Iron type for controlling shots into the wind?”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from eckmanjp who is on the hunt for irons to help with controlling shots played into the wind. Our members give their opinions on what are the best options for eckmanjp, with plenty of different clubs and shafts recommended.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • driveandputtmachine: “Into the wind, spin is NOT your friend. No matter how low launching it will balloon. I was an extremely high spin player, in my search for something lower spinning my three best were…. TM P 790, Cobra Forged TEC, and Ping i500.The final piece is a shaft that spins high enough to hold greens, but not too high to balloon into the wind.”
  • mogc60: “Sounds like you have good clubs and shaft combo for reducing spin. Shafts do make a difference…but don’t cure the upshoot into the wind. Good advice above about more club and swinging slower…speed equals spin. I find the biggest mistake people make into the wind is playing the ball too far back and hitting down too hard. The key is smooth through impact and finishing low in your follow through…not pounding it down…that creates that upshooting shot that the wind destroys.”
  • dpb5031: “Technique plays the major role here, not equipment. Generally, anywhere from 1 to 3 extra club, grip down on the handle, and use what I call a wide-to-wide swing at 3/4 speed. Think limited arm swing (no longer than left arm parallel with the ground in BS) and then cover the ball, keep body turning through it, and finish wide & low, with handle following your rotating trunk around to the left.”
  • rxk9fan: “I think the head/shaft combo can make a huge difference of course along with how you deliver the clubhead into the ball. Take a look at the Titleist shaft chart and see what they are showing. FWIW though, the OP’s current shaft should not be a high launch/high spin shaft. I found both the 716 AP2 and CB to be tough to control spin with, but as suggested it was 100% my delivery at impact. I found the Srixon Z9xx series to spin less but the best thing I did was get to a quality teacher, and we improved a pretty tiny swing flaw that had a big impact on spin. Good luck. I can say I tried to “new club” my way through the spin problem, but three lessons is what it took to fix it.”

Entire Thread: “Iron type for controlling shots into the wind?”

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Forum Thread of the Day: “Anyone jumping on the Hogan bandwagon?”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from tsecor, who pays homage to Ben Hogan Golf Equipment Company, and asks what fellow members think of the club manufacturer. The consensus is very positive, with the value for the quality of irons provided cited as one of the best features of the company.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • bfp9: “I’ve been on the Hogan train since 2006 when I bought Apex Blades (with the dreaded Callaway Forging). Still use them today. Although they are getting long in the tooth. Best Irons for my swing, and my game. And they were $299 new at Golfsmith. Haven’t hit the new stuff, but I certainly wouldn’t hesitate to buy another set of Hogans.”
  • MattM97: “Lefty options are limited, only thing I might consider are the wedges but after shipping, import fee/duty, re-gripping to what I like they are as much or more than most wedges. But I do like what they are offering and are a much cheaper and appealing product for many golfers. So I’ll be a fan, but won’t be a user of Hogan products.”
  • dkelly1269: “I have a set of the FW15s and just picked up a set of the PTx irons. Both are very high quality and very playable at a great price. I’m all in.”
  • tsecor: “I played Hogan Apex PC’s back in the late ’80s when I was a child, and I loved them. My parents bought them for me as a gift for graduation. They were $399 I think……not sure why I ever sold them, but it seems as if the Hogan company is getting back to their roots and the tech they are including in their irons is impressive…to me anyway.”

Entire Thread: “Anyone jumping on the Hogan bandwagon?”

 

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