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Tour Proto No More: TaylorMade launches P750 and P770 Irons

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You may remember that we first spotted TaylorMade’s Tour Proto irons being tested at the 2016 RSM Classic in November. The company announced that the irons will be available for purchase on March 17 with new names: P750 and P770.

P750

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The P750 irons are currently being used by TaylorMade Staffers Jason Day and Justin Rose, who were key in the development of the irons. TaylorMade calls the irons a “true forged blade with a shallow cavity,” and they look the part. The irons are designed with narrow soles, thin top lines, minimal offset and tight leading edges to give better players precise control over their trajectory and shot shape.

To create the P750 irons, TaylorMade uses a new multi-step forging process that delivers “a high-tonnage strike, three times more forceful than a standard forging press.” The company says the result is a more precise club head that requires “minimal hand polishing” after the forging process.

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The faces, grooves and cavities of the P750 irons are CNC milled, and 5-gram tungsten sole weights are co-forged in the irons to put the center of gravity (CG) in a position that TaylorMade says “delivers optimum workability for the best ball strikers.”

They’ll sell for $1600 for eight irons (3-PW) with True Temper’s Dynamic Gold shafts and Golf Pride’s Tour Velvet 360 grips. A variety of custom shaft options, many available at no added cost, will also be offered.

P770

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The P770 irons use a larger, multi-piece design to offer more distance, height and forgiveness to golfers who need it. The irons maintain a tour-quality look, however, with less offset, thinner top lines and shorter blade lengths than their predecessors to maintain workability and feel, according to TaylorMade.

“We spent countless hours working with our PGA Tour players to develop the most complete players iron we have ever created,” said Tomo Bystedt, TaylorMade’s Senior Director of Iron Creation. “Drawing inspiration from some of our most successful irons, P770 challenges the status quo of what a players iron should be.”

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To create the irons, TaylorMade engineers focused on lowering CG while enhancing the forgiveness of the irons. Key to the design is a 70-gram tungsten “wireframe,” which is welded to the face of the 3-7 irons to boost performance (the 8-AW use a one-piece forged construction that delivers improved precision). The tungsten wireframe, which gives the irons their muscular appearance, is lightest at its center and heaviest on its ends to maximize moment of inertia (MOI), a measure of ball speed retention on off-center hits.

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The 3-7 irons also feature a undercut positioned behind the face to boost performance along with shallow face profiles, shorter hosels and tapered face-thicknesses, a design that makes the top of the club faces thinner and the bottom of the club faces thicker to push weight lower in the club head while enhancing sound and feel.

The P770 irons will sell for $1200 for eight irons and are offered in 3-PW, AW with KBS FLT steel shafts (S and X flexes).

Related: In-hand photos of the P750 and P770 irons. 

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  1. LouF

    Aug 5, 2017 at 2:46 pm

    I can buy the P770’s for $1,050. Or APs, $1,050. Apex CF16s, $1,050. Mizunos from $1,000 up. Cobra King Forged, $1,000. Srixon Z765, $1,000. I wouldn’t pick up P750’s could care less what they charge, not aimed at my game.

    But Taylormade is ruining the game and making it unplayable? I don’t even play TM but really? This has been going on for some time, nothing new.

  2. Walter

    May 3, 2017 at 4:51 pm

    I was just at the driving range and someone had left one of these P770 irons behind, it was the 8i with a Steelfiber i95 shaft. So I decided to hit it a few times before I turned it in to the proshop. All I can say is NICE, very nice, felt better than my Mizuno’s. Don’t know what the SW was but it was light, probably guess at a D0. Just comparing to mine which have the Nippon NS 950gh shafts. I wish he had left the whole set I would have loved to hit a few of the other irons too. Might have to watch for a set of these on ebay in the coming years.

  3. good wood

    Feb 5, 2017 at 3:15 am

    I still like my R9 driver and fairway metals better than all the newer stuff. The rocketballz were horrible! My Taylormade sponsored club pro couldn’t even hit them. Several of the guys at PGA superstore in Texas told me to stick with the R9 fairway metals. And the R11s was a total dud also, at least that was what I was told by a vendor that has full access to the tour. And Yes, he showed his badge and lanyard.

  4. JR

    Jan 25, 2017 at 2:35 pm

    I buy as much equipment as the next guy and play to a fairly decent standard (never been higher than six in 45 years playing). In that time the one piece of equipment I’ve bought that I know took shots off my game is my laser rangefinder. So, as much as I like the look of the new TMs, I know they won’t make me swing the club any better. And, at the end of the day, if the swing is defective then no club is going to correct that.

  5. mike

    Jan 20, 2017 at 4:00 pm

    This looks like the cb and mc 2014 with a face lift everyone
    I have the 2014 and will not change for the same thing forged 8-aw like the cb2014 and mc………
    Dang….taylormade are realyy losing it…..bring some mb for lefties at least…….

  6. DJ

    Jan 19, 2017 at 1:35 pm

    stick with what you got and with what works. Bridgestone J40 DPC 5-PW. with 2 extra 6 irons off ebay for practice (punishment). and i got another brand new set (5-PW) in storage for $600 of Amazon 14 months ago.

  7. Jamie

    Jan 19, 2017 at 11:37 am

    why are people getting so butt hurt about the price of these irons? who cares? don’t buy them. do you get hurt when ford sells a truck for 60k? No, you buy their 30k truck. and this isn’t why the game is being “ruined” as so many of you put it. its losing participation because its difficult, expensive, and takes 5 hrs.

    • Buck

      Jan 19, 2017 at 5:02 pm

      First you say that “this (club prices) isn’t why the game is being ruined”, and in the next sentence you claim that participation is dropping because it is too expensive. smh

    • The dude

      Jan 20, 2017 at 6:36 am

      Ding…

  8. NevinW

    Jan 19, 2017 at 11:33 am

    Anything is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. There are plenty of other choices for great clubs that are a lot less money. If they sell them, they will keep making them at that price, if they don’t, they will stop. Either way it has no effect on me or my golf game.

  9. tlmck

    Jan 19, 2017 at 5:54 am

    Buy Malibu TE’s. You’ll be just as satisfied and richer.

    • tlmck

      Jan 19, 2017 at 6:01 am

      Meant Maltby TE. Damned spelling correction.

  10. Sh

    Jan 19, 2017 at 2:38 am

    Calm down, people. $1600 is MSRP. Which means it’ll be $1199 retail. Sheesh.

  11. Charles

    Jan 18, 2017 at 11:53 pm

    What an ego play. “If PXG can do it so can we”. I’d love for someone to explain the $400 price diff between models.

  12. TonyK

    Jan 18, 2017 at 11:30 pm

    1600 Shanks

  13. WolfWRX

    Jan 18, 2017 at 9:22 pm

    $1600 is insulting. No wonder people are quitting the game in droves. This follows on the heels of major price rises by both Mizuno and Titleist in the last six months. It seems golf is in an unsustainable cycle of ever increasing costs and a smaller and smaller market. Perhaps this is the norm now? Gotta keep the shareholders happy after all.

    • The dude

      Jan 20, 2017 at 6:39 am

      Shank

    • JR

      Jan 25, 2017 at 2:51 pm

      Wolf, it isn’t mandatory to pay these prices. I played a second-hand set of Cleveland TA5 irons for 10 years and I’d rate them as highly as anything produced by the big names. The problem we have now is that golf has become a game for ‘posers’ who have to be seen using the latest kit by the ‘designer’ brands – Ping, Mizuno, TaylorMade, Callaway, Cobra and now, it seems, PXG. Guys at my club are wearing Galvin Green waterproofs all year round because they were stupid enough to pay $800 for them and, apparently, want everyone to know it. If you play golf with me I’ll be more impressed if you shoot 69 with a set of irons you spent $300 on than if you shoot 83 with a set of irons you spent $1600 on. If you swing the club like a demented lumberjack trying to hack off his own foot then it doesn’t matter what you spend on equipment – you ain’t gonna get better!

  14. Matto

    Jan 18, 2017 at 9:06 pm

    Go buy some steel billets, hire some forge time, make the multiple dies needed for stamping, buy shafts & grips, import them and tell me how you go price-wise.

  15. The dude

    Jan 18, 2017 at 8:41 pm

    Plenty of people will buy them…..plenty of people buy Rolex watches …..$90k cars…etc…and with Trump in office …we will only be paying a flat 15% fed tax rate. It’s all relative you cheap f*cks!!!

  16. Tom Duckworth

    Jan 18, 2017 at 7:55 pm

    Yea $1600.00 is ridiculous and yes we can thank PXG for that.
    They don’t care if they sell less sets they will make as much off of one set as they use to selling two.

  17. Titlehead

    Jan 18, 2017 at 6:28 pm

    Lefties???

  18. Dude

    Jan 18, 2017 at 5:31 pm

    Why aren’t there slots on the face and sole? I thought that was revolutionary TM tech that would help all players?

    • WolfWRX

      Jan 18, 2017 at 7:51 pm

      Ha – so true. It was obvious those face slots would be gone within a year or two despite the absurd technological claims made at the time.

      • dog

        Jan 19, 2017 at 3:59 am

        slots reduce spin giving higher handicaps more distance hence why they are in their game improvement irons, the players these are targeted towards usually dont need extra distance and definitely dont want want reduced spin with their irons, also why most forged/blade clubs lofts arent as strong as game improvements, slots are irrelevant for low handicaps

        • LD

          Jan 19, 2017 at 5:56 am

          “slots are irrelevant”
          The only part of your post based on truth.

          • dog

            Jan 19, 2017 at 4:10 pm

            Taylormade P750 7 iron loft – 34*
            Taylormade P750 6 iron loft – 30*

            Taylormade RSi 1 7 iron loft – 30.5*

            another part of my post “based on truth”
            do your research before you comment

            • Bud

              Jan 20, 2017 at 4:25 pm

              Jason Day played Psi Tour irons last year which had slots.
              7 iron loft – 34*

              Now he’s switching to clubs without slots. Apparently he doesn’t think they are relevant either.

              • JR

                Jan 25, 2017 at 2:38 pm

                Really? You think Jason Day is playing the irons he wants to play? When you’re being paid $50 million plus a year to promote a manufacturer’s gear you play with what they tell you to play with.

              • rodger Davidson

                Aug 24, 2017 at 7:48 am

                No he didn’t.
                He played with the same irons as he did in 2015, the RSI TP irons. He only had a PSI iron as his 2 iron that he used off the tee.

        • Shankalot

          Jan 23, 2017 at 3:05 pm

          You actually know what you are taking about. Great explanation. I consider you the 1% on this site.

          • mike

            Jan 29, 2017 at 8:04 am

            Yes its true but i can tell you the way these guys play and go to the range and hit thousand of bucket plus there hole season….let me tell you that there club are good to go to the garbage….no groobes anymore….i play 30 game a year and im pretty sure 2 more years and ill be good to change me too my irons….

  19. Mark

    Jan 18, 2017 at 3:09 pm

    $1600? Are they taking the p£$s? They look cheap and nasty not premium product.

  20. DC1

    Jan 18, 2017 at 2:51 pm

    I guess TM has subscribed to the ‘if you don’t ask, you don’t get’ pricing theory. I’m very happy with my cally apex irons from a couple years ago, and will watch these to see how they perform in the hands of regular golfers. On pricing, I have to agree with everyone else that the list prices won’t hold at all…and yes, six months later they will be available for less than half of msrp. That’s just where the market is, unless TM only wants to sell these sticks as very limited editions with fancy colored grips.

  21. Jonny B

    Jan 18, 2017 at 2:30 pm

    $1600 = SHANK

  22. Philip

    Jan 18, 2017 at 2:29 pm

    Are you sure that you were talking to a US representative and not a Canadian who gave you Canadian prices? At this point Miura (before they raise prices for the buy out) are looking affordable.

  23. Ayeayeejeff

    Jan 18, 2017 at 2:03 pm

    Just can’t get behind a domestic set over 1500 stock. really am impressed with the look of both of them though, so from a design aspect well played Tmade, from a marketing standpoint, I hope you didnt mass produce these puppies.

  24. Brian

    Jan 18, 2017 at 1:42 pm

    I am waiting for the typical “6 months and I will buy them for half the price” comment.

  25. ColmMcC

    Jan 18, 2017 at 1:18 pm

    I think I’ll stick to my PS2’s and spend 600 on lessons …. so game improvement and a $1000 saving ….
    Good looking Irons … but I thought mine were for the 4 months it took them to bring out the PSi’s and made mine “old” …. … I still cant manage the churn rate on these clubs .. I had my old coin foirged RAC’s for 13 years – loved them … and guess I will keep my PS2’s for a little longer as they are just bedding in ( or is that I’m just bedding in 🙂 )

  26. Mr.Nodoubt

    Jan 18, 2017 at 1:18 pm

    Sick. Great job Taylormade! A down company charging 1600 for a set of players irons. Genius…

  27. Rich

    Jan 18, 2017 at 1:06 pm

    $1600.00 are you serious!!! If you think spending $1600.00 on a set of irons is going to help your game you are NUTZ!!!!

  28. Deadeye

    Jan 18, 2017 at 1:00 pm

    I’m not even going to bother to reply.

  29. Buck

    Jan 18, 2017 at 12:05 pm

    Well, someone has to pay for all those Tour players they added this year.

  30. Kosko

    Jan 18, 2017 at 12:01 pm

    What has happened to the price of irons for cripes sake…. Always been a Mizuno guy and they are up to 1200…. the days of a <$400 driver and irons under a grand appear to be gone sadly.

    • Buck

      Jan 18, 2017 at 12:09 pm

      Spot on, and the reason why I will be building myself a set of Maltby irons.

      • Teaj

        Jan 18, 2017 at 2:19 pm

        I normally change my irons every year but have kept mine for 2 whole years…. I know right, kind of a big deal. But I am with you once my irons have no more grooves left I will opt to build my own set.

        Heads 4-PW = $242.90
        Shafts (if you don’t want to use your old ones (7 Shafts) = $180.95
        Ferrules = $6.95
        Grips (12) = $40.80
        Epoxy = $16.65
        Grip Tape = $12.60
        Grip Solvent = $9.20
        Tip weight kit = 6.95

        Total with Shafts $517 + $20-40 for shipping and then tax in Canada
        without Shafts $336.05 + shipping and Tax

        Maybe this will be the new way people purchase Clubs

        • James

          Jan 18, 2017 at 3:55 pm

          I’m going to be adding custom-fitting to the list of services I offer over the summer as a coach based near Marbella. I’m absolutely going down the route of component company because the product is just as good, arguably better, but the cost to consumers is so much less as you spell out. It just makes more sense

          • Neil Cameron

            Jan 19, 2017 at 6:29 am

            wishon from Diamond Golf Uk is your best bet

  31. Boobsy McKiss

    Jan 18, 2017 at 11:53 am

    Great looking irons.

    I really wonder goes on in the meetings of these companies when it comes to pricing their stuff. Is the CEO some brash hard head that tells the CFO to take his numbers and shove it? I can’t imagine highly paid CFOs and CMOs coming up with these ridiculous prices.

  32. Smitty

    Jan 18, 2017 at 11:38 am

    $1200 and $1600 for these irons?! GTFOH Taylormade!! I don’t care how good they look or how many hours you put into working with Tour pros. That is absolutely insane.

    • Anthony

      Jan 18, 2017 at 4:58 pm

      That’s nothing!!! In Australia they will be $1999!!!

      • john

        Jan 19, 2017 at 12:04 am

        actually they’re $230 per club in Aus in AUD (which is $1610 AUD or $1210 USD), golf stuff is often cheaper here but don’t tell anyone coz then they wont be able to scream about the australia tax

  33. Clay

    Jan 18, 2017 at 11:26 am

    That i200 is looking better and better.

  34. birdy

    Jan 18, 2017 at 11:25 am

    i like the look but the price is ridiculous. they better be offering any shaft as free upgrade.

  35. Rolo

    Jan 18, 2017 at 11:23 am

    “TaylorMade calls the irons a true forged blade with a shallow cavity”

    That’s like saying this is a true real banana with a taste of orange.

  36. CB

    Jan 18, 2017 at 11:20 am

    “true forged blade with a shallow cavity,” – doesn’t that make them cavity backs not blades?

  37. Jeff

    Jan 18, 2017 at 11:02 am

    Irons without slots on the bottom and sides, has Taylormade lost it’s mind? Any iron that doesn’t have a slot is garbage and is 20 yards shorter. I bet the PWs don’t even go 200 yards.

  38. Tom

    Jan 18, 2017 at 11:01 am

    Tax Return Boy’s.

    • Glfhsslr

      Jan 18, 2017 at 11:31 am

      Who gets a Tax return lol

    • Tom

      Jan 18, 2017 at 1:22 pm

      or those who pay taxes

      • WashedUpHasBeen

        Jan 18, 2017 at 2:09 pm

        FFS It’s called a tax refund. A tax return is what you file in order to get your tax refund.

        • Tom

          Jan 18, 2017 at 3:24 pm

          Aww thnx.. I’m looking forward to getting money back in the form of a refund from the state and feds.

  39. golfraven

    Jan 18, 2017 at 11:01 am

    The cleanest looking clubs from TM for quite some time. I guess they looked at Mizuno and Ping for quite a while and decided to fusion both looks together. Will be interesting to demo those but will likely mot end up in the bag cause I am not typically a TM guy.

  40. ultimate hacker

    Jan 18, 2017 at 10:49 am

    ill just grab some nice blades at that point, nothing hits pure like a blade. but not everyone can use them..

  41. LDav

    Jan 18, 2017 at 10:35 am

    1600 for irons is crazy however the 1200 option is basically a revised PSI Tour with a much cleaner look and most likely a better feeling off the face. the 1600 option I would say, replaces the past generation MB’s

  42. Dj

    Jan 18, 2017 at 10:23 am

    Hard pass at that price

  43. Xav

    Jan 18, 2017 at 9:57 am

    I’d rather bag the i200’s anyways… $800 for the set! Plus they look better cast or not…

    • Egor

      Jan 18, 2017 at 11:39 pm

      i200s are said to be amazing from a friend who is a club fitter. Can’t wait to hit them. I left the TMaG irons train several years ago. I still carry an R15 and Stage 2 3w I picked up for 1/5 the new price.

  44. Brian Moore

    Jan 18, 2017 at 9:56 am

    30 degree Pitching Wedge this year?

  45. LD

    Jan 18, 2017 at 9:55 am

    $200 an iron with DG shafts? No thanks. I thought the Ping i200’s were overpriced a bit, but this is ridiculous.

  46. Mr Muira

    Jan 18, 2017 at 9:46 am

    Blah Blah Blah.

  47. Beef

    Jan 18, 2017 at 9:41 am

    Yes I had to read that twice… $1,600 is a lot of money. Saying that, this has the makings of a very tasty mixed-set provided the lofts aren’t jacked beyond recognition.

  48. SRG

    Jan 18, 2017 at 9:40 am

    $1600!? That’s absolutely outrageous

  49. Dat

    Jan 18, 2017 at 9:20 am

    $1600? What?! Is this supposed to be a 1/2 price PXG competitor? Taylormade has lost their minds.

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This morning, with the update of the USGA and R&A conforming equipment lists, we are getting a sneak peek at what Mizuno will have in store for 2021 with the release of the ST-Z and ST-X drivers.

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Based on the information provided in the USGA submission by Mizuno, the ST-X will only be available in right-handed (10.5 and 12-degree lofts), while the ST-Z will be available in both right (9.5  and 10.5 degrees) and left-handed (9.5 degrees only).

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Based on the images from the USGA list and our experience with the Mizuno product line, it appears that the ST-Z is the next step in the evolution of the standard ST200 with no adjustable CG but with a customizable weight in the back of the head.

We haven’t seen any images of a moveable weight driver in this new ST series, so it could be that the G-woods are getting phased out in favor of more internally biased weighting, but since those types of drivers often take a bit more time to get just right, it could be a matter of time before a “G” type driver hits the list.

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Based on the image from the USGA list and our experience, it appears that the ST-X is the next step in the evolution of the ST200-X driver, which is the lighter weight, more upright, and draw-biased driver from Mizuno. Don’t think draw bias always means it’s for higher handicaps either, because Mizuno staff player Chris Kirk got along very nicely with his out on the Korn Ferry and PGA Tours in 2020, including a win.

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