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The GolfWRX forums exist so golfers have access to the latest equipment releases, hottest discussions, real equipment reviews, best instruction, new technologies and everything golf you can imagine. So if you love golf, the GolfWRX forums are your sanctuary.

In the From the Forums weekly feature, we bring you the hottest, most buzz-worthy topics from our forums for your convenience. I’ll be your trusty tour guide to navigate the latest buzz. Here’s a peek behind the curtain into golf’s sanctuary.

Rejuvenating the golf equipment industry

Buying new golf equipment

We’ve featured threads of poetical waxing about participation numbers and potential shots of atropine for the game in general. This discussion deals specifically with the golf equipment industry. User uW0tM8 has an interesting take on directions manufacturers ought to go, including personalization and more opportunities to demo clubs on course.

To see what other WRXers think could help, check out the thread.

Winter set-up?

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Probably not quite this wintry..

For those of you fortunate enough to golf during the winter months, Fenrir poses an interesting question: How do you adjust your arsenal for the colder months? He considered a “simpler, lighter” setup, and it seems many in the thread elect to go with something similar.

For the rest of us, Bomber_11 lays out our one-point plan: “It’s called I put the clubs in my downstairs storage room and weep while endless inches of snowfall cover every course.“

See the thread.

A positive spin on stronger lofts

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The loft drift in modern clubs has been the subject of no shortage of discussion. And while takes on the subject of the strengthening loft of the 7-iron in the 21st century are usually dim (“marketing tactic,” and such), Pinger89 offers a unique personal account of his experience with getting new clubs in the RocketBallz era following a long time with older irons. But as a fitter in a retail environment, he offers an interesting perspective on why loft drift could be good for both golfers and the industry.

See the thread.

Hot takes on the John Daly 30 for 30

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A thread that kicked off with vigor with the announcement that John Daly would be featured in ESPN’s 30 for 30 series, continued enthusiastically through the airing of “Hit it Hard.”

To see everything the WRX community had to say, check out the thread.

Predictions for 2017!

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Who doesn’t love a bit of prognostication? GolfWRXers lay out their predictions for the 2016-2017 PGA Tour season as (in case you didn’t notice), we’re already four tournaments deep into the brimming calendar.

Check out the predictions!

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  1. Scooter McGavin

    Nov 7, 2016 at 9:53 am

    Why does the golf equipment industry even need to be rejuvenated? Golf courses and equipment manufacturers are making their own bed with their pricing. Nothing to do but let the market take care of itself.

  2. UncleBuck

    Nov 7, 2016 at 1:21 am

    Well, I’ll tell ya, I walked into a very popular RD, rhymes with Dodger Bun, golf shop today and most customers were milling about with 1-2 people actually buying merchandise. On the way home decided to check out the now bankruptcy bound GS, rhymes with Dolf Swiss, and da place was jumpin’ like an outlet store the day after Turkey Day!! I mean folks were lined up getting merchandise marked down 5-30% of Steal’tail, I mean retail. Shelves were gutted, and 15 plus people lined up to trade dollars for “reasonably” priced goods. Like someone mentioned above, mark down the overpriced gear, $500 drivers, $260 golf shoes, $180 wedges, $140 golf shirts, etc., and the industry could quite possibly lift itself from the doldrums. It has to smash rock bottom at some point. Hope to never see it, but I have a haunting feeling it will be sooner than later.

  3. Dave R

    Nov 6, 2016 at 7:54 pm

    Yes shaft made in China ,head made in China cost $20.00 us . Assembled in Mexico cost $2.50 us . Your price $350.00 us . Who is making the bucks guess. I might be out a bit but not much.

  4. RAT

    Nov 5, 2016 at 8:06 pm

    It’s the cost!!! every course doesn’t have to look like the Masters!. Clubs, balls and etc all are going up in price. I believe that’s due to greed in management pay! Most all equipment is made over seas where pay is cents per day. JUST LIKE MEDICAL COST , MEDS where the key ingredient is marked up ( 600,000%) this is nothing but robbery . The head cheese IS going to get his money and the heck with the rest.

  5. Progolfer

    Nov 5, 2016 at 3:52 pm

    Honestly, the golf equipment industry is fizzling out– as evidenced by Nike and Taylormade exiting and trying to exit the market. Manufacturers have pushed equipment innovations just about as far as the USGA will allow them to. Today, almost all equipment is the same. Updates and changes in equipment will only yield slight improvements over current products. Personally, I think the focus in golf should shift from equipment innovation to an initiative in growing the game and actually improving a golfer’s game. Let’s make that the priority instead.

    • Desmond

      Nov 6, 2016 at 8:15 am

      Adidas is exiting the equipment market, not TaylorMade.

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  7. JoBlo

    Nov 4, 2016 at 6:01 pm

    How about selling everything at half price? That should move the equipment off the shelves and into people’s hands

  8. Rimjob

    Nov 4, 2016 at 11:50 am

    You would know

    • Rimjob

      Nov 4, 2016 at 1:33 pm

      Yeah? My house is in the sky. How about that

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What GolfWRXers are saying about the best Nike driver ever

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In our forums, our members have been discussing Nike drivers. WRXer ‘DixieD’ is currently building up a Nike bag and has reached out to fellow members for driver advice, and WRXers have been sharing what they feel is the best Nike driver ever made.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Ger21: “VR Pro LE? I have two I was still playing last year.”
  • mahonie: “The STR8-Fit Tour was one of the best drivers I’ve played. Still have it the garage and take it to the range occasionally…it would possibly still be in the bag if it hadn’t developed a ‘click’ in the head which I cannot fix. Long, straight(ish) and nice sound.”
  • jackr189: “The VR_S is one of the best.”
  • Finaus_Umbrella: “I played the Vapor Fly Pro, and still do on occasion for nostalgia sake. Sound and feel are great, but it demands a good strike.”
  • PowderedToastMan: “I enjoyed the SQ Tour back in the day, the one Tiger used forever. Do I miss it? Not at all, but it was a pretty good club for its time.”

Entire Thread: “Best Nike driver?”

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What GolfWRXers are saying about driving irons for mid-handicappers

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In our forums, our members have been discussing whether mid-handicappers can benefit from a driving iron. WRXer ‘jomatty’ says:

“I average about 230 off the tee on good drives. I can get a little more sometimes, but 230 is probably the average. I’m 42 years old and shoot in the mid to low 80’s. I do not get along with fairway woods very well, especially off the tee, and really don’t get enough extra length over my hybrid to consider using it aside from very rare situations on par 5’s (I’ve considered just going from driver to 19-degree hybrid and getting an extra wedge or something).”…

…and wants to know if he would be better served by a driving iron. Our members have been sharing their thoughts and suggestions.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • MtlJeff: “If you can shoot mid 80’s, you probably hit it well enough to hit a bunch of different clubs. Personally, I think hybrids are easier to hit….but some driving irons are quite forgiving. I use a G400 crossover that is very easy to hit and looks more iron-like. Something like that you might like. Be careful with some of them though because they aren’t always super forgiving, so you’d have to hit them first.”
  • HackerD: “G410 crossover is my version of a driving iron, feel like I hit it straighter than a hybrid. Just as easy to hit as a hybrid.”
  • hanginnwangin: “I shoot in the low 80s normally and in the 70s on my really good days. I have probably around the same or similar swing speed as you. I have been hitting my 4 iron off the tee on tight holes, and it’s been working pretty well so far. I hit it about 190-220. I have a 4 hybrid but just can’t hit it as consistently as the 4 iron, and it doesn’t even go much farther. I have a 5 wood which I only use for 220+ yard par 3s or wide-open fairways. Basically, it’s all personal preference and what you do best with. Everyone is going to be different. Try new stuff out and see what works. But if irons are the strongest part of your game (they are for me as well), I would give the 4 iron a shot. You can get a lot of roll out on the tee shots with it,”
  • Hellstrom: “Don’t laugh, but I bought a 17* hybrid with a senior flex shaft at a garage sale for $5, and I can hit it nice and easy and keep it in play without losing any distance. My driver SS is between 105 and 110 usually and swinging this thing feels like swinging a spaghetti noodle, but it works. I don’t have it in the bag all the time, but I do use it for certain courses. I take my 6 iron out and throw that in, so if I struggle with getting the ball off the tee, I just go to that.”

Entire Thread: “Driving iron for a mid-handicapper”

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What GolfWRXers are saying about the best iron sets for a senior

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In our forums, our members have been discussing the best iron sets for senior players. WRXer ’emdjunk’ is on the hunt for a new set of clubs for his father and says:

“I am trying to find a new set of irons for my father. He’s about 5’6 and can drive the ball around 200 yards. He has some issues getting his irons up in the air and most of his shots land short. I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for him?

I’d like him to be able to get his irons back up in the air and add some distance. Does anyone have experience with any hybrid iron sets? Are these good for seniors with slower swing speeds? Also, we don’t have access to any club fitters where we live. Is it possible to get fitted online these days?”

And our members have been putting forward their suggestions.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • C6 Snowboarder: “I am a super Senior also – I have found Recoil Graphite shafts for irons do very well.. I put a 65 gr shaft in my 6 and 5 iron – they are now the best they have ever been. I put 80 Gr shafts in the 7 iron, and 95 gr in the 8,9 and PW. For hybrids or fairway – I have found thru lots of experimenting – the Chrome Elements shaft in Epic Flash Fairways do great – especially the Heaven Wood – WOW – what a club for old farts. Driver – the Ck Tensei Blue is doing well for me as well as the ProLaunch Platinum – both great shafts for Old guys.”
  • txgolfer45: “I retooled my entire bag last year from Driver down to wedges. Callaway Epic Flash Driver with 55-gram graphite shaft, Callaway Epic Flash 3, 5 and sometimes 7 fwy with 65-gram graphite shaft shafts, Callaway Big Bertha 4H and 5H with 70-gram graphite shafts and 6 – U wedge with Recoil 65 graphite shafts. I have no problem getting proper ball flight with that set up and have regained yardage as well.”
  • slolane: “I am 67 years old 5ft 7in with two artificial hips, so the swing speed has slowed down a lot. A couple of weeks ago I went to a fitting and hit a lot of the new offerings. I told the fitter I was looking for irons that would work now and 5 years down the road. I ended up getting Ping G710 irons they were very high and forgiving I got them with the senior graphite shafts. Have only been on the course a couple times but so far everything I was looking for. Lots of youtube reviews on the 710s good luck to you and your father.”
  • sean2: “I am a senior, and with stronger lofts, the first iron in my bag is a 7. The 5 and 6 irons in many of today’s set make up are like the old 3 and 4 irons in loft (I have seen more than a few seniors struggle to get those 5 and 6-irons airborne). I haven’t had much luck with hybrids, so I have three fairway woods: 25º, 21º, and a 17º. They go nice and high and land softly. If you get him a set with the stronger lofts, you might want to replace some of the irons at the high end of the bag with hybrids and/or fairway woods.”
  • mootrail: “Take a look at my Bridgestone JGR Forged Hybrid Irons and the current successor, the TOUR B JGR HF1 Irons. The look is unique, and the wide flange design gets the ball up high and long with a hot and forgiving face. The wide sole works surprisingly well in all conditions, including hardpan. The stock steel Zelos 8 shafts in mine are a big reason they launch so easy. Although in an S flex, they have a very soft bend profile that gets the ball up fast without feeling unstable. I’d recommended the lightweight Nippon steels over graphite like the excellent Recoils in my current irons if you’re looking for some extra speed and height.”

Entire Thread: “Best iron sets for a senior”

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