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Golf is great because people of all shapes, sizes and ages can play and enjoy it. In that case, however, not every golfer fits into a 34- or 35-inch putter like you’d think when scanning the putter racks at your local golf shop.

If you do happen to fit into a “standard-length” 34- or 35-inch putter, then maybe you don’t know that most people playing a 33-inch putter are doing so with a putter that’s been cut down to size. The problem with that is shortening the putter without adding weight back will affect swing weight, overall weight and ultimately, feel and performance.

“When we pioneered the adjustable sole weight system, it became possible to match the putter head weight relative to the length for a balanced stroke,” said Titleist Master Putter Maker Scotty Cameron. “Cameron & Crown models are purpose-built 33-inch designs, not manipulated 35-inch putters, with two 20-gram weights to ensure the swing weight and feel of these putters are consistent with their longer counterparts.”

With Scotty Cameron’s new line of putters — called Cameron & Crown — the aim is to give juniors, women and shorter athletes an opportunity to play a line of putters designed specifically for them. And the head models featured in the Cameron & Crown line are some of the most popular heads from his other lines.

The Cameron & Crown line will consist of the Select Newport 2, the Select Newport M2 Mallet, the GoLo 5 and the Futura X5R models. Each of the putters will measure 33 inches, and will come with a White Matador putter grip that measures smaller in diameter than Cameron’s Matador grips that now come stock on all of his other current models. The smaller grip is said to better match performance, feel and weight.

Cameron & Crown putters will be available in stores (MSRP $410) in Canada and the U.S. on September 23, and the rest of the world on October 21.

See below for more photos of each putter, and click here to see what GolfWRX members are saying about the Cameron & Crown putters.

Select Newport 2

  • Heel and toe weighted
  • Plumber’s neck
  • 303 stainless steel head and face inlay
  • Available in both right- and left-handed versions
Newport 2 Left-handed version

Select Newport M2 Mallet

GoLo 5

  • Made from 303 Stainless Steel with 6061 aircraft-grade aluminum sole plate and pop-through sight line
  • Parallel and perpendicular sight lines

Futura X5R 

  • Made from 303 Stainless Steel with wingback for more MOI and forgiveness
  • Aluminum sole flange

See what GolfWRX members are saying about the Cameron & Crown putters in our forums

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He played on the Hawaii Pacific University Men's Golf team and earned a Masters degree in Communications. He also played college golf at Rutgers University, where he graduated with a Bachelor of Arts in Journalism.

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67 Comments

  1. Ryan

    Feb 27, 2017 at 5:09 pm

    I read this article when it first came out, and I have been saving my money ever since. I just purchased the Newport 2, and as the first putter I’ve ever paid for, (others were hand-me-downs) this one is worth every penny! Absolutely awesome putter! I could have gotten a standard Newport 2, and had it cut down, but it would have been the same price. I don’t see why everyone is upset about the price. I tried tons of putters, and every manufacturer had a $400 putter in their line. Bettinardi, Ping, Odyssey, etc. I think even Wilson had a $350 putter, so why is it so outrageous that SC is charging $379??

  2. digitalbroccoli

    Sep 20, 2016 at 9:45 am

    The marketing machine that is Cameron marches on.

  3. effyouscott

    Sep 3, 2016 at 12:03 pm

    its nice to know scotty thinks we are so dumb as to cut down our putters and not add lead tape or weights. ANY club repair person who doesn’t advise their customers of this wholly uninteresting and paltry fact of physics is probably voting trump. Get an old select off the bay for $90 and add some $20 aftermarket weights.

    • Ricky

      Sep 5, 2016 at 5:00 pm

      Well, you have the Cameronbots that believe anything he has to say, even if it sounds illogical and defies physics.

  4. Ricky

    Aug 31, 2016 at 8:25 pm

    The sad part is Cameron used to be a putter maker that actually cared. Now? He is just a wealthy pompous buffoon. Pumping junk with Titleist name on it.

  5. Ricky

    Aug 31, 2016 at 8:00 pm

    I’m waiting for the Made for the Tour model with a nice 7k price tag, lol……

  6. joepz

    Aug 31, 2016 at 5:42 pm

    In the Cameron & Crown video at Scotty’s website, in the video for this new line, Cameron states that the putters are designed from the start to play at 33″ not a cut-down 35″ putter.

    I thought that meant that the specs would be different, with perhaps a flatter lie, since it is designed for youngsters, women and shorter men (I’m 5’7″ myself and have used 33″ putters for years). However, the specs of the Cameron & Crown are no different from the Lie, loft, and weight of the recent Select line (I have an M2 Mallet from the Select putter line).

    That said, I still ordered a Newport 2, since the one I’d kept in Myrtle Beach was stolen when homeless people broke into my house there and took ALL of my clubs (if you see people there playing golf with flies buzzing around them, those’re probably the perps).

  7. Dave R

    Aug 31, 2016 at 4:05 pm

    Got to love the price of the sc putters ,and if you believe you put better with one you are only fooling yourself. A good putter can putt with any type I borrowed my sons ping answer 20years ago and he ain’t gettin it back,and I have tried almost every sc putter he made and they do not even come close to this old ping answer. Sorry sc

  8. Jim H

    Aug 31, 2016 at 4:02 pm

    Originally at 5’9″ and now shrunk to 5’7″ I struggled over the years (70’s and 80’s) with the “standard” 35-inch Bulls-Eye and Zebra putters. I then switched to T.P. Mills and started cutting them down to 31-inch lengths, adding rolls of lead tape to he bottom in the 90’s. I finally switched to an Odyssey White Steel Rossie in the early 2000’s, again cut down to 31-inches but later discovered that 31-inches was actually too short. I currently play a 33-inch Odyssey Black #9, which I ordered directly from Odyssey in 2013, as none of the local shops had a 33 in stock. While I play Titleist irons, wedges and balls, the Scotty Cameron putters never appealed to me. But I do wish manufacturers would either make shorter lengths more readily accessible, or move to adjustable length shafts.

  9. Mike

    Aug 31, 2016 at 1:35 pm

    Very much a “so what” product….

    • Ricky

      Aug 31, 2016 at 7:39 pm

      Come on, is the Cameron Crown, lol….

      It should be the Cameron Clown, lol…..

  10. Christosterone

    Aug 31, 2016 at 12:37 pm

    I’m 6’1, 6’2 in golf shoes and use a 2007 33″ Scotty button back with 20g weights….different strokes…
    I putt like Jack,…well, I don’t actually putt like Jack but I setup like him (open, bent over with knees touching)…

    -Chris

  11. Lou Loomis

    Aug 31, 2016 at 6:03 am

    A $400 putter aimed at juniors? The death throe of the golf equipment market.

    • gunmetal

      Sep 1, 2016 at 11:51 am

      That’s what I was thinking.

      What a revolutionary concept. Make headweights in shorter lengths heavier. It’s not like Nike, Odyssey and nearly every other manufacturer haven’t already done this before. Wow!

      • Ricky

        Sep 2, 2016 at 1:44 pm

        Hey now, all his designs are original designs????

  12. SNBD

    Aug 30, 2016 at 11:49 pm

    I’m curious, why do so many people complain about price whenever there is some review on new equipment on this website? Golf equipment has been expensive for years, decades even. I’ve seen a ton of guys who are good players (not tour pros who are given equipment) and none of them play a 14 piece box set from Big 5. If you have anything in your bag from Titleist, TaylorMade, Callaway, Nike, Cleveland, or Mizuno and you didn’t buy used on eBay, then you paid a good amount for those clubs….does that make you a hypocrite? If you think $410 is too much for a putter then don’t buy it, pretty simple.

  13. Colin

    Aug 30, 2016 at 9:06 pm

    I’ve got a factory made 33″ studio select newport 2 with the same 20g weights. don’t understand how these are any different.

  14. Elite

    Aug 30, 2016 at 8:53 pm

    In fact, just send it to the best gold-plater on Earth and have it fully plated in gold, including the shaft. I’ll be happy to pay $50,000 for it, Scotty, make sure you put your own signature on it, the grip has to be made of the best leather material, I’ve always enjoyed my finest Italian leather shoes so make one out of that, the Italians know how to make leather supremely soft and supple

  15. Elite

    Aug 30, 2016 at 8:50 pm

    Can they throw some real gold paint on there? I need one exactly at 33 but with all the trimmings, and I won’t pay less than $5000 for it, it has to be the best of the best materials for my kid.

  16. KookieCameron

    Aug 30, 2016 at 6:23 pm

    What on earth is this garbage?

  17. The Dude

    Aug 30, 2016 at 4:42 pm

    Jumped…..the…..shark

  18. Donald Quiote

    Aug 30, 2016 at 4:40 pm

    I don’t even look at Scotty Cameron stuff anymore. There are other manufacturers making things more custom to you for less than scotty makes and off the rack stick. Lots of golfers don’t realize there are so many other options for higher end putter out there. They just know the Titlleist name and Scotty Cameron. So many greater deals to be had out there. Already boosting the prices this year for a standard OTR putter and then this slightly different than his already OTR stuff and bumps the price up even more. #overit

  19. Big Kid

    Aug 30, 2016 at 1:46 pm

    I’m ok with this. Scotties have always been a top of the line brand, so bitching about their cost is like bitching about the cost of a luxury vehicle. Hopefully it will bring more 33″ putters onto the putting mats at Golfsmith, Golf Galaxy, Edwin Watts, etc. I’m 6’3″ but I have freakishly long arms. I was having problems putting and started gripping down on my putter. I tried to find shorter putters to test out, but ultimately I had to take a stab in the dark and get mine cut down. I don’t regret the decision one bit. I’m putting better than I ever have. And this actually led me to cutting down my driver and 3wood as well.

  20. JoJo

    Aug 30, 2016 at 1:22 pm

    Cost is $379.99. Scotty has cornered the market on the status symbol of putters as a luxury brand of putter. I’m sure 33” was built to fill a demand (you know, supply and demand, right?) It is up to you to buy it or not. Obviously someone is buying SC’s and is now the most frequently used putters on the PGA Tour. (pgatour.com)
    If you are basing your purchase on cost alone, you’ll never buy a SC. And you’d probably fall into the group that wouldn’t buy designer clothes, status symbol vehicles, country clubs, …either. I mean why buy a Ferrari when a Honda can get you to the same place, right? I think everyone should take a chill pill and understand that people place value on many different things for many different reasons. People are not ‘crazy’ for buying these putters; they buy it because they want it and hopefully can afford it. We could all wear generic basic golf shirts from the big box stores but we don’t. Boring world if we did. And we parents are smart enough to teach our kids the right kind of values when young even if someone else’s kid pulls up in a Ferrari. Surely this concept is not new?
    For me personally I bought a used 4 year old Newport 2 and out of decades of putting I can honestly say it has been my putter ever since; I love it. You might buy the same putter and hate it. That doesn’t make either one of us crazy or insane and I certainly hope if you saw me with a SC you don’t judge me based on a putter name (in that case your parents should have done a better job). To me, I use the putter a lot more than any other club in my bag and keep it the longest, yet I pay 400 bucks for a driver that only gets used a few times a round and is obsoleted in 6 months.
    Here is the way I look at it…as Ferris Bueller said “If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up.”

  21. Double Mocha Man

    Aug 30, 2016 at 12:48 pm

    When I first saw this I immediately thought Scotty was teaming up with Crown Royal spirits. I’ll drink to that.

  22. G

    Aug 30, 2016 at 12:18 pm

    So custom lengths down to 31″ is available, right?

  23. Maslie

    Aug 30, 2016 at 9:36 am

    Hey SC, I am 5’6″, play your mill spec 33″ 350gr and way too long, I play it at 30.5″ and need to add lumps of leadtape of 28gr at the bottom. Your new line still left me no option. If you are making 33″ for shorter golfers than I am looking forward to see your product for mini golfers. Please let me know date of realese, I am saving for it starting now. around $510 or $610?

  24. Bert

    Aug 30, 2016 at 9:26 am

    As long as golfers “believe” these products are better the MFR’s will continue to glean off the sales.

    • AllBOdoesisgolf

      Aug 30, 2016 at 9:45 am

      welcome to capitalism… join in or keep complaining… I am sure I know which one you will do…

      • Lester Diamond

        Aug 30, 2016 at 10:03 am

        Or opt-out, which is apparently what a lot of people are doing judging by sales figures.

  25. Keith

    Aug 30, 2016 at 9:20 am

    Scotty really needs someone new to copy, this copying of his own copies is really not working out.

    • Ricky

      Aug 31, 2016 at 7:43 pm

      There’s nothing else for him to copy, lol….

  26. cp

    Aug 30, 2016 at 9:00 am

    Really? You can order most SC putters to 33″ and they will come with 20g weights. Did he really need to make a whole new line for this?

  27. Cwolf

    Aug 30, 2016 at 8:53 am

    $410. What a joke!

    Also the Scotty Cameron on the bumpers needs to go. Soo tacky!

    • Ricky

      Aug 31, 2016 at 7:44 pm

      Cameron putters are about Cameron. He is completely full of himself.

  28. Nate

    Aug 30, 2016 at 8:48 am

    Overall this is just a marketing strategy. He has offered 33″ putters for years, but they are hard to find within a retail store (Golf Galaxy, Golfsmith, etc) to be able to test before purchasing. From my experience in golf retail, customers (who require a 33″ putter) are hesitant to buy a $410 putter and have it cut down to fit their needs, especially if they have never putt with a 33″ putter. What I hope this does is increase the awareness within the retail stores to the need to stock 33″ putters.

    Also for those complaining about the price it is just the normal MSRP for his putters. The shaft has the same cost whether it is 33″ or 35″.

  29. Shortgame85

    Aug 30, 2016 at 8:31 am

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    We are the members of the Lolipop Guild and we kindly welcome you to Munchkin Land!

  30. DJ

    Aug 30, 2016 at 8:22 am

    Bahahaha this guy is ridiculous. There’s always been a 33″ putter, so now he makes a line that he even says is designed for short people. Hilarious. When is his line coming out for minorities? He is one weird guy. No thanks

  31. TheCityGame

    Aug 30, 2016 at 8:16 am

    I don’t understand this at all.

    Scotty has ALWAYS made 33 inch putters. Flip through the archive.

    http://www.scottycameron.com/archive/putters/default.aspx

    And, I don’t the weighting on a model by model basis, but I know for a fact that some of the models were weighted more heavily in shorter lengths. For instance, the Red X3 was 360/350/340g depending on length.

    So, what exactly is new here except for a white paint fill, and a “new” name?

    In other words. . .

    Thanks for the ad, Golfwrx.
    Sincerely, Scotty

    • TheCityGame

      Aug 30, 2016 at 8:17 am

      *I don’t “know” the weighting….

  32. M Schnitzel

    Aug 30, 2016 at 7:44 am

    It’s a mistake not just branding these as Scotty Cameron’s. Some men who want a short length putter will continue to buy a regular Scotty and cut it down, so it’s not perceived they are using a women’s or kid’s club.

  33. Dave

    Aug 30, 2016 at 7:31 am

    They may be short on this but they are certainly TOO long on price!!! LKook just like the ping answer to me. Except for the designer name.

    • Ricky

      Aug 31, 2016 at 7:58 pm

      That’s has been Cameron MO since the nineties. Nothing new here.

  34. JThunder

    Aug 30, 2016 at 6:48 am

    It’s cool you can all be so high and mighty about Scotty – so *clearly* none of you are involved in any kind of overpriced business (like banking, drug companies, real estate agents, advertising, manufacturing, etc). Thank goodness those people who deliver the essentials of life never charge more than they need to, price gouge or rip us off. Then we’d *really* be in trouble.

  35. Bofhus

    Aug 30, 2016 at 4:44 am

    They are gorgeous – IMO much nicer than the red Scotties. Anyone know if this colourway will be replicated in the 34″/35″ offerings?

  36. Elite

    Aug 30, 2016 at 3:39 am

    I feel sorry for the parents of the middle lower classes who just got their kids into the game with US Kids Clubs, just barely, and now they have to compete against kids from mega-rich parents who can show off their kids with really expensive equipment.
    Truly is an elitist sport, and we are proud of it

    • Mike

      Aug 31, 2016 at 8:06 pm

      Middle or lower class opinions not needed for this discussion .

  37. Sam

    Aug 30, 2016 at 2:18 am

    All this $410 price on a putter does is give all the companies a chance to raise their $125 dollar putters to $199 without even upgrading the grip .

  38. John G

    Aug 30, 2016 at 2:16 am

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe all of the 2016 Select models are already available in a 33″ version with 20g weights. I know this because I recently purchased a 2016 Select Newport in a 33″. My local retailer did not carry the size in store, but was able to order the 33″ version from Titleist directly. The only difference between this Cameron & Crown version and the 2016 Select models is the engraved model name, colour and smaller diameter matador grip.

  39. Ken

    Aug 30, 2016 at 2:13 am

    And the Golf world wonders why golf is loosing some ground to new players…Putter $410, M! Driver $499, 3 wood $239 set of irons $999 bag $150, Shoes $89…dozen balls $48….$2,434 for good equipment (not top of line) to play a round of golf for $89 on a good course……..oh yea how about a lesson so you won’t loose those balls so fast $125 an hour from a good instructor…..just go play tennis on a public court with a $39 racket and a couple cans of tennis balls $6.99 a can….

    • Elite

      Aug 30, 2016 at 3:40 am

      So you’re saying you’re going to leave us alone and go play tennis? Good bye! And good riddance!

      • Y. Drizzle

        Aug 30, 2016 at 6:18 am

        No, he is saying anyone thinking of taking up golf would be better served taking up tennis and saving themselves a couple grand in the process. You’re not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you? How many credit cards have you maxed out buying this overpriced trash?

        • AllBOdoesisgolf

          Aug 30, 2016 at 9:48 am

          If people are starting out the sport with a whole lineup of new clubs, that is on them. Hilarious to even try and use that as the reason why golf is apparently ‘losing’ people.
          You mean to tell me there will be less people in jean shorts and tank tops, guzzling from a flask and leaving sunflower seeds and cigarette butts on the green now??? AWESOME!!!!

          • Lester Diamond

            Aug 30, 2016 at 10:27 am

            You first dismiss that cost is a reason people are leaving the game, then gloat that there will be less people on the course to bother you. Brilliant logic.

          • TCJ

            Aug 30, 2016 at 1:35 pm

            Sunflower seed shells are so annoying!

        • Elite

          Aug 30, 2016 at 8:46 pm

          I’m an Elite. I have no money problems. I play golf with the Sheikhs. They have money in their pockets like the hair on their bodies. No need to be a tool, Drizzle, it’s OK if you’re too poor to play this game. Go play tennis. You’ll be happier for it. We’ll enjoy spending all the money we have on golf because we can.

    • Caesar

      Aug 31, 2016 at 1:03 am

      No one will ever tell a new golfer to buy a brand new M1, pro v 1’s or a Scotty right of the bat. When I first started I went to big 5 and got a full set of John Daly’s for 120 bag included. Any sport gets more expensive when you get to higher levels. It’s not Scotty Cameron’s fault that 30 handicaps want to buy high end stuff when a set of John Daly’s would suffice. I do have a Scotty Cameron but I’m a 4 handicap and feel makes a difference to me. It’s the only club that I didn’t buy used because I feel that a putter is the best investment in the bag.

  40. Mark

    Aug 30, 2016 at 2:05 am

    Marketing gone mad. Amazing how many bad putters insist on SC wands…

    • Ken

      Aug 30, 2016 at 2:15 am

      anyone who thinks a $410 dollar putter will make them put better then a $139 putter does not watch pro golf much.

  41. Steve

    Aug 30, 2016 at 1:43 am

    This really is silly. There was nothing stopping us from putting a 20g weight (or heavier) in the earlier Scotty’s, except for the outrageous price that Scotty Custom charged for a job a three-year old could do. Although my putter is at 34″, I have 30g weights, and I grip down to about 32″, which allows me to keep my arms fairly straight… Scotty, start making putters for people, instead of forcing them into a box.

  42. Mat

    Aug 30, 2016 at 1:08 am

    When your junior wants your Scottie, he wants the actual Scottie, not this “made for kids” stuff. This defines “shank”.

  43. Timmy Kimbles

    Aug 30, 2016 at 12:42 am

    Finally, a putter for us manlets!

  44. M Shnizzle

    Aug 30, 2016 at 12:41 am

    Hahahaha $410 for a putter? Hahaha

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Wunder: I’ve hit THESE new drivers this year…and this is what I think

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During this lockdown, I have done quite a few “Friday Q & A’s” on my IG, and one of the questions I get asked constantly is “have you hit this?” That, and “whaddya think?”

So, in the spirit of organizing my brain, it seemed like the right time to share what new drivers I have actually hit this year…and this is what I think.

Now, it needs to be said that there is a lot of new gear out there, but, to be honest, I’ve only actually hit a select few enough to actually build an opinion. “Enough” in this case is at least 20 balls. Some of these sticks I tested during our pre-launch preview with the OEMs, at the PGA show, a friend has one, or I actually have it in the bag.

Here we go.

TaylorMade SIM

Setup tested: SIM 9 @8.25 w/ Mitsubishi Chemical Kuro Kage XTS 70TX

LOOKS: The best way to describe how SIM looks behind the ball is “comfortable.” TaylorMade has always made drivers that just look correct. The lines are clean, the shape inspires playability, and I dig the paint job. They hit a home run with this one for sure.

FEEL: Best sound out there in my opinion. Heavy, dense, and if you get one dead-nuts center, it lets you know. The feel at contact is just as TaylorMade drivers have always done, center strikes feel like Thor’s hammer and mishits don’t kill your good vibes.

VS THE M5: I get asked this a lot. I loved the M5. Still do. To be honest the two drivers data wise were legit apples to apples. The only difference is my stock shot with M5 was a low spin straight ball and with SIM its a slight draw with a touch more spin and slightly lower launch. I prefer that.

OVERALL: In my opinion, the TaylorMade SIM is the cool kid in high school for 2020. Last year it was F9 followed closely by M5. TM knocked it outta the park on this one.

TaylorMade SIM Max

Setup tested: Sim Max 9 @8.25 w/ Mitsubishi Chemical Kuro Kage XTS 70TX

LOOKS: It has a bit more of a longer face at address, which makes the head appear shallow which inspires a bit more confidence to turn it over. That’s the main thing I noticed with MAX. Other than that its a tried and true TM shape.

FEEL: Like its sibling, it has a nice solid hit audibly at the impact. So, overall its apples to apples with SIM. However, due to the front weight missing on the MAX, the actual strike doesn’t feel AS meaty as SIM. Not a negative necessarily just something I noticed.

VS M6: Both of these sticks I launched a bit too high versus the weighted versions. That’s why they never got any serious consideration to actually put in play.

OVERALL: As a high launch, more forgiving option, it’s an ace.

Callaway Mavrik Sub Zero

Setup tested: Sub Zero 9 w/ Mitsubishi Chemical Tensei Blue AV 65TX

LOOKS: To my eyes, the newer versions of the Callaway drivers have looked a bit more compact than its competition. To me, this always looked “low spin” for whatever reason. The Mavrik has the same shape which is good.

FEEL: They really fixed the sound. The Epic Flash sounded like a pop can to me, and the Mavrik Sub Zero sounds like a sledgehammer. The good thing here is the sound now matches up with what the hit feels like. I think the Mavrik is the best feeling driver Callaway has made since Epic.

VS EPIC FLASH SZ: To me, a complete improvement on all fronts. Sound, feel, and performance for me were all substantially better. Now I must say that the Epic Flash Sub Zero was a great driver, I always got great numbers out of it, but the sound took me out of it. I’m sure there isn’t that much difference audibly between the two, but in this game, even something minor can represent so much. Sound to me is huge.

OVERALL: In all honestly, I haven’t given a Callaway driver a real hard look to actually put in the bag since Epic. The sound got louder wit Rogue and Epic Flash. The Mavrik SZ  however is a fantastic driver and will def get some more testing out of me.

Cobra SpeedZone

Setup tested: Cobra Speed Zone 9 @8.5 w/ Fujikura Ventus Black 7X

LOOKS: The F9 was a winner on all fronts. The only critique I had was optically it looked like the driver was a little too fade biased. The SZ with its milled in top line gives it softer look at address and for me, softer lines mean more workability, just what my eyes tell me.

FEEL: As with F9 and the earlier mentioned SIM, the Speed Zone sounds EXACTLY how a driver should sound. It has a very heavy hit audibly and that’s across the face. I love the sound of this driver.

VS F9: Apples to apples, it’s the same. Beyond the optics, it feels, sounds, and performs like the F9. Not a bad thing though, the F9 was the driver of 2019 in my opinion.

OVERALL: Nothing wrong with repeating an already awesome driver. SpeedZone will stand up to anything out there. If I’m being fair, I think F9 elevated things in 2019, and this year the competition caught up to it. Changes nothing about how good this driver is.

Cobra Speed Zone Xtreme

Setup tested: Cobra Speed Zone Xtreme 9 @8.5 w/ Fujikura Ventus Black 7X

LOOKS: Like the other drivers in this higher MOI category, it looks a little longer heel to toe.

FEEL: No different than the SpeedZone, sounds great, the impact is solid across the face, and even thin shots feel solid.

OVERALL: The Xtreme is the sleeper hit of 2020 and I’ve heard the fitters love this thing. It’s by far the easiest to hit and overall good time of any driver on this list. Is it longer? No. But is it Xtremely (no pun) playable and competitive? Hard yes. It’s a blast.

PXG Proto

Setup tested: PXG Proto 9 w/ Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 6 TX

LOOKS: Slick. Like all PXG gear, the look is there. The matte crown and elegant lines make it very pleasing optically. I also appreciate that although it’s designed to look high tech. The lines inspire playability, and who doesn’t love a driver that looks like a stealth bomber?

FEEL: I only hit about 20 balls with the PXG Proto in the short time I had with it, but, wow, did this thing surprise me. The sound oddly enough is a bit higher-pitched than the others on the list but for whatever reason, it’s not a distraction. It actually adds to the experience of the hit. I typically detest that, but this sound matched up with the solid hit I was getting. I’m not sure if this is the final version since its a limited tour proto but what is happening is definitely interesting.

VS GEN2: It’s just better. Feels better, sounds great, more playable across the face. The Gen2 did one thing better than everyone else, it destroyed spin. The problem I had was control. The PXG Proto is still low spin but with the new 4 weight system (no intel on the tech yet) seems to add quality launch to the low spin profile and puts the player in a situation where very few to any sacrifices are made.

OVERALL: I was a fan of Gen2. No doubt. But it never flat out beat M5, F9, or SIM. The Proto has elevated PXG’s driver game. I don’t think its a matter of whether or not the driver stands up with the irons, I believe PXG is on the right track to having a driver that eliminates any “yeah, but…” to the conversation. That’s a huge leap since Gen1. These guys are trending hard.

I hope this was helpful.

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What GolfWRXers are saying about the final version of Bryson DeChambeau’s LA Golf ‘Texas Rebar’ wedge shafts

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In our forums, our members have been discussing the final version of Bryson DeChambeau’s LA Golf ‘Texas Rebar’ wedge shafts. The look of the ultra-stiff shafts, which originated from Bryson wanting a “graphite shaft that was stiffer than the Dynamic Gold X7″, has impressed our members who have been praising the final version and sharing their thoughts on the concept.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • QuigleyDU: “Awesome.”
  • My2dogs: “Really coming out with some great new stuff.”
  • HateTheHighDraw: “MMT 125TX are absolute fire, but these must be much stiffer.”
  • Robkingasu: “Sweet!”

Entire Thread: “Bryson DeChambeau’s LA Golf ‘Texas Rebar’ wedge shafts”

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Should I move to heavier iron shafts? – GolfWRXers have their say

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In our forums, our members have been discussing the strategy of moving to heavier shafts in irons. WRXer ‘Z1ggy16’ has been making swing changes lately, and the transition has been most challenging for his iron play. ‘Ziggy16’ says:

“Been making some swing changes lately, most notably working to really shallow my club into the downswing. I’m finding that I’m doing this well with my heavy wedge shafts and driver, but I’m struggling a bit in my irons. My strike pattern with my wedges is pretty good, but the irons are a bit all over. Driver is 80g raw, wedges are 132g raw, irons 120g raw. I don’t think I want to go any stiffer, but is there a chance I’ve “outgrown” this weight and need to move to something a bit heavier to help keep these feels going through my set? No idea what swing speed is at this point, but my 7i is normally a smooth/comfortable 175-180 for me.

I really like the feel of my Accra Tour Z Xtreme 475 and my S400’s in the GW-LW. I’m kind of leaning maybe soft stepping modus 120TX or X100’s.. Heck maybe even S200 straight in? Normally I’d just get a fitting, but with Rona still going around, I’m not than keen on it. 2020 is the year of the self fit for me. FWIW, I used modus 120TX 2xSS in my GW & SW last year and that was pretty good feeling. Perhaps a touch too soft… they seemed to really whip/bend hard when hitting from the rough on full swings.”

Our members discuss whether they feel a switch to heavier shafts in the irons will have the desired impact.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Pepperturbo: “You’re not alone. Regardless of age, some of us swing better with heavier shafts. I went from 70g driver and 85g 3wd graphite shafts to 58g Ventus shaft in driver and 70g Ventus shaft in 4wd. In irons went from 130g X to 120g 6.0 PX steel shafts which lasted about fifteen years. Then last year made another downward weight change to Steelfiber (steel & graphite) 110g Stiff shafts, lightest I have ever played. Keep in mind as you transition, changing shaft weight is not the only answer. Increasing swing weight can make up for shaft weight. Though I really like them in 6-3i, not thrilled in SW-7i, so just ordered heavier Steelfiber i125g shafts for my PW-7i blades.”
  • Jeff58: “As someone who has gone through and continues to work on what sounds like a similar situation, your ideal iron shafts will likely change. Where they change to isn’t possible to predict with any degree of accuracy. Don’t change your current irons without knowing. It’s frustrating, expensive, and you won’t have any clubs while they’re being changed out. Instead, get a single club from dealsandsteals or similar and experiment with that. Also, the only relevant experience is outdoors under your actual turf conditions. Indoor and mat use can be grossly different.”
  • Red4282: “Just depends on your tempo and load and preferences tbh. My numbers are about identical to yours; I play 77g in the driver and 125 in the irons. I don’t think I could go lighter than 125.”
  • gvogel: “I have a set of hickory clubs. Of course, hickory shafts are darn heavy, maybe 150 grams or so. I probably hit straighter shots with the irons, and particularly hit better shots with the niblick (wedge). Driver and fairway woods, not so much. That might be a stupid insertion into an intelligent thread, but heavier goes straighter, lighter goes longer. You can go heavier, and it helps in transition, but don’t go too stiff.”

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