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Shaft Select: An app that fits golfers for every shaft in their bag

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Too busy. Too expensive. Too far away. Those are the most common reasons golfers cite when they tell us why they haven’t been fit for golf clubs. The good news for them is that the growth of the custom-club industry has led to options that are faster, more affordable and in this case, only as far as way as a golfer’s smartphone.

Online custom club fitter fairwayjockey.com has released an app called Shaft Select (available for Apple and Android devices) that can fit golfers for every shaft in their bag, sans the putter. Downloading the app is free, as is a wood-shaft fitting. If golfers want to learn what hybrid, iron or wedge shafts are for for them, however, an annual fee of $2.99 unlocks those tools. And those ready to take the plunge can then make their way to fairwayjockey.com to build their completely custom club or clubs.

Can an app really fit golfers accurately for shafts? To answer that question, we spoke to Mike Robinson, Founder of Fairway Jockey.

WRX: The Shaft Select app asks golfers to answer a few simple questions depending on the type of shaft that’s being fit. How did you come up with those questions and criteria?

MR: The series of questions ask the player the most important concepts that should be covered during a custom shaft fitting. Shaft Select uses a player’s tempo, transition, and shaft release to compute a high-level recommendation. It goes a step further and gets the player’s input on ball flight needs, directional miss information, and feel to narrow the recommendation down to specific models that will work for their swing.

WRX: How many shafts are in the Shaft Select database? And how does the app sort through the different shaft options to offer a recommendation?

MR: The Shaft Select database has every model, weight, and flex from 15 of the top shaft manufacturers. Through shaft testing and fitting knowledge, we programmed the fitting tool to sort through the data for each shaft to compute non-biased, data-driven recommendations for our clients.

WRX: As a fitter, what do you recommend for golfers who aren’t quite certain of their swing tempo, transition or release? How can they get that information so they can use the app effectively?

MR: The ideal solution would be to get the information from a PGA professional or a club fitter. However, there is not always access, so there are some general ways to diagnose your own swing tendencies. For example, a golfer can time their swing from start to finish. Closer to 1 second would be a fast tempo, and closer to 2 seconds would be a slow tempo. For transition, a golfer can determine if they are aggressive or smooth at the top when they start their downswing. The swing release is when the wrists typically unhinge during the downswing. Most mid-to-high handicap golfers have an early-to-mid release, and most low-handicap golfers have a late release. If there is any doubt, we are always a phone call or email away for assistance.

WRX: When golfers call you for assistance, what are the most common misconceptions about shafts and the fitting process?  

MR: There are a couple misconceptions that come to mind. Specifically, many golfers will focus primarily on swing speed as the only determinant for the proper shaft. We like to get the golfer thinking about other factors such as directional miss (to ensure proper weighting) and feel preferences (to select proper torque). The second misconception that comes to mind is in the selection of the proper playing length when having the shaft built by Fairway Jockey. Many golfers will request a playing length without considering the effect it has on the swing weight of the club. A swing weight that is too light or too heavy can have a negative impact on the golfer’s ball flight. We always recommend that our clients consult with us to ensure a proper setup.  

WRX: The last question golfers get when choosing a shaft on the app is about price. What advice do you have for golfers buying shafts on a budget?

MR: I would say the higher your swing speed, the more critical it is that you lean toward purchasing a more premium shaft. If you have a slower-to-average swing speed, I would recommend that you purchase a shaft that fits comfortably within their budget.

To download the Shaft Select app, click here

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  1. Sal

    May 20, 2016 at 8:45 am

    immediately asking for $2.99. no free wood fitting!! BULLS***!

  2. Justin Wells

    May 16, 2016 at 7:01 pm

    It won’t let me do anything without first giving them $2.99…immediate fail

  3. cgasucks

    May 15, 2016 at 10:16 pm

    Waste of money…each of the major shaft manufacturers can tell you that on their websites for free…

  4. You idiot

    May 15, 2016 at 9:15 pm

    Take this post down you fool!

  5. Sboss1

    May 15, 2016 at 9:23 am

    Why would anyone pay $3 ANNUALLY for this app? This is a blatant ripoff and a recurring revenue money grab. Assuming this app does what it claims, shouldn’t I be able to get all my shafts perfect to my personal specs…..ONCE? Why would I pay annually? Other than allowing the owners the opportunity to collect recurring revenue?
    This is very lame.

  6. tlmck

    May 15, 2016 at 2:14 am

    What a joke. It recommended expensive lightweight shafts when in fact I do better with heavier inexpensive shafts. I am also surprised they charge. For the shafts they recommend, the shaft makers could kick in and make the app free. Still would not be useful.

  7. Tom

    May 13, 2016 at 8:36 pm

    I’ll be interested to see how this app plays out over the remainder of the year. Please do a follow up article.

  8. Someone

    May 13, 2016 at 7:00 pm

    So you say that shafts shouldn’t be fit solely on speed, but also weight and torque. Then at the end, you say to pick shaft budget based on speed…seems contradictory to me. You’re basically saying that high swing speed means you need a more expensive shaft. So now you’re back to picking a shaft based on swing speed…to disprove your basis, I have two friends who hit the ball relatively the same distance on drives…one has an expensive tour shaft the other has a more affordable shaft. To add more control to this comparison, they both play the same driver head (same loft) and are physically the same height.

  9. davemac

    May 13, 2016 at 10:55 am

    Downloaded to test, very unimpressed, a few simple multiple choice questions and up pops a driver shaft recommendation. I also managed to upset the questions by asking for a regular feeling shaft, it only wanted to offer soft feeling shafts given my modest swing speed.

    I don’t know if there is more detail behind the paid subscription, I certainly hope so.

    To the developers, we now have access to high speed cameras and swing analyser like SkyPro / ZEP so we can provide much better detail with regard to swing tempo and swing aggression.

  10. Todd

    May 13, 2016 at 9:09 am

    $2.99 to use. No thanks.

  11. Nath

    May 13, 2016 at 8:22 am

    Not an industry first sorry.
    MyGolfShafts has been around on ios 03/10/13

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Wunder: I’ve hit THESE new drivers this year…and this is what I think

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During this lockdown, I have done quite a few “Friday Q & A’s” on my IG, and one of the questions I get asked constantly is “have you hit this?” That, and “whaddya think?”

So, in the spirit of organizing my brain, it seemed like the right time to share what new drivers I have actually hit this year…and this is what I think.

Now, it needs to be said that there is a lot of new gear out there, but, to be honest, I’ve only actually hit a select few enough to actually build an opinion. “Enough” in this case is at least 20 balls. Some of these sticks I tested during our pre-launch preview with the OEMs, at the PGA show, a friend has one, or I actually have it in the bag.

Here we go.

TaylorMade SIM

Setup tested: SIM 9 @8.25 w/ Mitsubishi Chemical Kuro Kage XTS 70TX

LOOKS: The best way to describe how SIM looks behind the ball is “comfortable.” TaylorMade has always made drivers that just look correct. The lines are clean, the shape inspires playability, and I dig the paint job. They hit a home run with this one for sure.

FEEL: Best sound out there in my opinion. Heavy, dense, and if you get one dead-nuts center, it lets you know. The feel at contact is just as TaylorMade drivers have always done, center strikes feel like Thor’s hammer and mishits don’t kill your good vibes.

VS THE M5: I get asked this a lot. I loved the M5. Still do. To be honest the two drivers data wise were legit apples to apples. The only difference is my stock shot with M5 was a low spin straight ball and with SIM its a slight draw with a touch more spin and slightly lower launch. I prefer that.

OVERALL: In my opinion, the TaylorMade SIM is the cool kid in high school for 2020. Last year it was F9 followed closely by M5. TM knocked it outta the park on this one.

TaylorMade SIM Max

Setup tested: Sim Max 9 @8.25 w/ Mitsubishi Chemical Kuro Kage XTS 70TX

LOOKS: It has a bit more of a longer face at address, which makes the head appear shallow which inspires a bit more confidence to turn it over. That’s the main thing I noticed with MAX. Other than that its a tried and true TM shape.

FEEL: Like its sibling, it has a nice solid hit audibly at the impact. So, overall its apples to apples with SIM. However, due to the front weight missing on the MAX, the actual strike doesn’t feel AS meaty as SIM. Not a negative necessarily just something I noticed.

VS M6: Both of these sticks I launched a bit too high versus the weighted versions. That’s why they never got any serious consideration to actually put in play.

OVERALL: As a high launch, more forgiving option, it’s an ace.

Callaway Mavrik Sub Zero

Setup tested: Sub Zero 9 w/ Mitsubishi Chemical Tensei Blue AV 65TX

LOOKS: To my eyes, the newer versions of the Callaway drivers have looked a bit more compact than its competition. To me, this always looked “low spin” for whatever reason. The Mavrik has the same shape which is good.

FEEL: They really fixed the sound. The Epic Flash sounded like a pop can to me, and the Mavrik Sub Zero sounds like a sledgehammer. The good thing here is the sound now matches up with what the hit feels like. I think the Mavrik is the best feeling driver Callaway has made since Epic.

VS EPIC FLASH SZ: To me, a complete improvement on all fronts. Sound, feel, and performance for me were all substantially better. Now I must say that the Epic Flash Sub Zero was a great driver, I always got great numbers out of it, but the sound took me out of it. I’m sure there isn’t that much difference audibly between the two, but in this game, even something minor can represent so much. Sound to me is huge.

OVERALL: In all honestly, I haven’t given a Callaway driver a real hard look to actually put in the bag since Epic. The sound got louder wit Rogue and Epic Flash. The Mavrik SZ  however is a fantastic driver and will def get some more testing out of me.

Cobra SpeedZone

Setup tested: Cobra Speed Zone 9 @8.5 w/ Fujikura Ventus Black 7X

LOOKS: The F9 was a winner on all fronts. The only critique I had was optically it looked like the driver was a little too fade biased. The SZ with its milled in top line gives it softer look at address and for me, softer lines mean more workability, just what my eyes tell me.

FEEL: As with F9 and the earlier mentioned SIM, the Speed Zone sounds EXACTLY how a driver should sound. It has a very heavy hit audibly and that’s across the face. I love the sound of this driver.

VS F9: Apples to apples, it’s the same. Beyond the optics, it feels, sounds, and performs like the F9. Not a bad thing though, the F9 was the driver of 2019 in my opinion.

OVERALL: Nothing wrong with repeating an already awesome driver. SpeedZone will stand up to anything out there. If I’m being fair, I think F9 elevated things in 2019, and this year the competition caught up to it. Changes nothing about how good this driver is.

Cobra Speed Zone Xtreme

Setup tested: Cobra Speed Zone Xtreme 9 @8.5 w/ Fujikura Ventus Black 7X

LOOKS: Like the other drivers in this higher MOI category, it looks a little longer heel to toe.

FEEL: No different than the SpeedZone, sounds great, the impact is solid across the face, and even thin shots feel solid.

OVERALL: The Xtreme is the sleeper hit of 2020 and I’ve heard the fitters love this thing. It’s by far the easiest to hit and overall good time of any driver on this list. Is it longer? No. But is it Xtremely (no pun) playable and competitive? Hard yes. It’s a blast.

PXG Proto

Setup tested: PXG Proto 9 w/ Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 6 TX

LOOKS: Slick. Like all PXG gear, the look is there. The matte crown and elegant lines make it very pleasing optically. I also appreciate that although it’s designed to look high tech. The lines inspire playability, and who doesn’t love a driver that looks like a stealth bomber?

FEEL: I only hit about 20 balls with the PXG Proto in the short time I had with it, but, wow, did this thing surprise me. The sound oddly enough is a bit higher-pitched than the others on the list but for whatever reason, it’s not a distraction. It actually adds to the experience of the hit. I typically detest that, but this sound matched up with the solid hit I was getting. I’m not sure if this is the final version since its a limited tour proto but what is happening is definitely interesting.

VS GEN2: It’s just better. Feels better, sounds great, more playable across the face. The Gen2 did one thing better than everyone else, it destroyed spin. The problem I had was control. The PXG Proto is still low spin but with the new 4 weight system (no intel on the tech yet) seems to add quality launch to the low spin profile and puts the player in a situation where very few to any sacrifices are made.

OVERALL: I was a fan of Gen2. No doubt. But it never flat out beat M5, F9, or SIM. The Proto has elevated PXG’s driver game. I don’t think its a matter of whether or not the driver stands up with the irons, I believe PXG is on the right track to having a driver that eliminates any “yeah, but…” to the conversation. That’s a huge leap since Gen1. These guys are trending hard.

I hope this was helpful.

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What GolfWRXers are saying about the final version of Bryson DeChambeau’s LA Golf ‘Texas Rebar’ wedge shafts

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In our forums, our members have been discussing the final version of Bryson DeChambeau’s LA Golf ‘Texas Rebar’ wedge shafts. The look of the ultra-stiff shafts, which originated from Bryson wanting a “graphite shaft that was stiffer than the Dynamic Gold X7″, has impressed our members who have been praising the final version and sharing their thoughts on the concept.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • QuigleyDU: “Awesome.”
  • My2dogs: “Really coming out with some great new stuff.”
  • HateTheHighDraw: “MMT 125TX are absolute fire, but these must be much stiffer.”
  • Robkingasu: “Sweet!”

Entire Thread: “Bryson DeChambeau’s LA Golf ‘Texas Rebar’ wedge shafts”

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Should I move to heavier iron shafts? – GolfWRXers have their say

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In our forums, our members have been discussing the strategy of moving to heavier shafts in irons. WRXer ‘Z1ggy16’ has been making swing changes lately, and the transition has been most challenging for his iron play. ‘Ziggy16’ says:

“Been making some swing changes lately, most notably working to really shallow my club into the downswing. I’m finding that I’m doing this well with my heavy wedge shafts and driver, but I’m struggling a bit in my irons. My strike pattern with my wedges is pretty good, but the irons are a bit all over. Driver is 80g raw, wedges are 132g raw, irons 120g raw. I don’t think I want to go any stiffer, but is there a chance I’ve “outgrown” this weight and need to move to something a bit heavier to help keep these feels going through my set? No idea what swing speed is at this point, but my 7i is normally a smooth/comfortable 175-180 for me.

I really like the feel of my Accra Tour Z Xtreme 475 and my S400’s in the GW-LW. I’m kind of leaning maybe soft stepping modus 120TX or X100’s.. Heck maybe even S200 straight in? Normally I’d just get a fitting, but with Rona still going around, I’m not than keen on it. 2020 is the year of the self fit for me. FWIW, I used modus 120TX 2xSS in my GW & SW last year and that was pretty good feeling. Perhaps a touch too soft… they seemed to really whip/bend hard when hitting from the rough on full swings.”

Our members discuss whether they feel a switch to heavier shafts in the irons will have the desired impact.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Pepperturbo: “You’re not alone. Regardless of age, some of us swing better with heavier shafts. I went from 70g driver and 85g 3wd graphite shafts to 58g Ventus shaft in driver and 70g Ventus shaft in 4wd. In irons went from 130g X to 120g 6.0 PX steel shafts which lasted about fifteen years. Then last year made another downward weight change to Steelfiber (steel & graphite) 110g Stiff shafts, lightest I have ever played. Keep in mind as you transition, changing shaft weight is not the only answer. Increasing swing weight can make up for shaft weight. Though I really like them in 6-3i, not thrilled in SW-7i, so just ordered heavier Steelfiber i125g shafts for my PW-7i blades.”
  • Jeff58: “As someone who has gone through and continues to work on what sounds like a similar situation, your ideal iron shafts will likely change. Where they change to isn’t possible to predict with any degree of accuracy. Don’t change your current irons without knowing. It’s frustrating, expensive, and you won’t have any clubs while they’re being changed out. Instead, get a single club from dealsandsteals or similar and experiment with that. Also, the only relevant experience is outdoors under your actual turf conditions. Indoor and mat use can be grossly different.”
  • Red4282: “Just depends on your tempo and load and preferences tbh. My numbers are about identical to yours; I play 77g in the driver and 125 in the irons. I don’t think I could go lighter than 125.”
  • gvogel: “I have a set of hickory clubs. Of course, hickory shafts are darn heavy, maybe 150 grams or so. I probably hit straighter shots with the irons, and particularly hit better shots with the niblick (wedge). Driver and fairway woods, not so much. That might be a stupid insertion into an intelligent thread, but heavier goes straighter, lighter goes longer. You can go heavier, and it helps in transition, but don’t go too stiff.”

Entire Thread: “Should I switch to heavier iron shafts?”

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